BuffaloRebound Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 So the Chargers are gonna pass on Tua because of Tyrod Taylor and the Patriots are gonna trade up to 13 without a 2nd rounder this year. Fanboys of 1 team shouldn’t do mock drafts. That’s like a Bills fan doing a mock where Lamb or Jeudy falls to the late 1st and Beane magically trades up from 54.
DCOrange Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 39 minutes ago, Rico said: I didn't know Tua was a 13 on the Wonderlic. Tbf, we don't actually know what he got. There's been three different reported numbers for him. 13, 19, and 24. All are less than ideal but 24 is basically an average score.
dave mcbride Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Tbf, we don't actually know what he got. There's been three different reported numbers for him. 13, 19, and 24. All are less than ideal but 24 is basically an average score. We do know what he got. He got a 13 the first time he took but got a 19 later. Herbert went from 25 to 39.
GunnerBill Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, dneveu said: Lamar Jackson also got a 13 fwiw Complete waste of time the whole thing. You might as well make them all enter a pissing contest and whomever pisses the furthest should be made QB1.
thurst44 Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, dneveu said: Lamar Jackson also got a 13 fwiw Also, Jim Kelly got a 15 and famously did pretty OK with the mental aspect of quarterbacking. Dan Marino got a 16. Tyrod got a 15 and one could argue its his improvisational acumen on the field which has allowed him to occasionally start in the NFL in spite of lesser talent. In this group, Jerry Jeudy got a 9, and while I know it's not as important for WRs, his college tape immediately impressed me as one of the smarter route runners. Edited April 20, 2020 by thurst44
Rico Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, thurst44 said: Also, Jim Kelly got a 15 and famously did pretty OK with the mental part of playcalling. Dan Marino got a 16. Tyrod got a 15 and one could argue its his improvisational acumen on the field which has allowed him to occasionally start in the NFL in spite of lesser talent. In this group, Jerry Jeudy got a 9, and while I know it's not as important for WRs, his college tape immediately impressed me as one of the smarter route runners. Well, absolutely no doubt it is better to be football-smart than smart-smart... but I will still laugh at any player that gets a 13.
Putin Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 36 minutes ago, dneveu said: Lamar Jackson also got a 13 fwiw We are talking QB’s 4
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, thurst44 said: Also, Jim Kelly got a 15 and famously did pretty OK with the mental aspect of quarterbacking. Dan Marino got a 16. Tyrod got a 15 and one could argue its his improvisational acumen on the field which has allowed him to occasionally start in the NFL in spite of lesser talent. In this group, Jerry Jeudy got a 9, and while I know it's not as important for WRs, his college tape immediately impressed me as one of the smarter route runners. I think they use it to try and gauge processing speed for QBs? It's not super effective. LJ is probably the first modern era QB to have real success though while having a very low score. Tua also apparently was not very good on the white board though - so I think that may be more concerning than anything else.
Phil The Thrill Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 Predicting trades in drafts is especially useless because there are so many factors that come into play. Take no stock in Peter’s mock draft here.
offyourocker Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 The great thing about Peter King is that you can guarantee what ever he says will not happen 1
yungmack Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 King's list is silly and awful. I doubt a single pick goes the way he thinks.
Philly McButterpants Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 2 hours ago, BuffaloRebound said: So the Chargers are gonna pass on Tua because of Tyrod Taylor and the Patriots are gonna trade up to 13 without a 2nd rounder this year. Fanboys of 1 team shouldn’t do mock drafts. That’s like a Bills fan doing a mock where Lamb or Jeudy falls to the late 1st and Beane magically trades up from 54. Yes! Exactly. Amazing how some how some superstar "falls" to the Pat*s in every one of PK's mocks. 1
JohnC Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 7 hours ago, GunnerBill said: If Tua slides that far, yes I could see it. But Tua won't slide that far. If Miami out of fear over Tua's health status takes Herbert they will be making the same blunder that they did when they didn't take Brees because they worried about his health status. Brees revived the New Orleans franchise and has had a HOF career while the Dolphins have floundered for a generation with a multitude of mediocre qbs. Herbert has the prototypical football body. Tua is immensely the better football player. My prediction is that Miami will stay at the five spot and select Tua. 1
dollars 2 donuts Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, JohnC said: If Miami out of fear over Tua's health status takes Herbert they will be making the same blunder that they did when they didn't take Brees because they worried about his health status. Brees revived the New Orleans franchise and has had a HOF career while the Dolphins have floundered for a generation with a multitude of mediocre qbs. Herbert has the prototypical football body. Tua is immensely the better football player. My prediction is that Miami will stay at the five spot and select Tua. Great take, John. btw, I am not making comparison’s between the players, but I happen to remember when an Oklahoma St RB fell all the way to the second round in the ‘88 draft because teams were worried about his injuries. The team that took him took him with their first pick in the draft...thankfully that worked out well for both. Edited April 20, 2020 by dollars 2 donuts 1
Mark Vader Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: If Tua slides that far, yes I could see it. But Tua won't slide that far. If Tua fell that far, why wouldn't the 49'ers take him? They need a QB. 1
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 5 hours ago, dneveu said: Lamar Jackson also got a 13 fwiw Can't believe Terry Bradshaw did much better.
Chicken Boo Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 Why the hell would anyone trade up for Herbert?
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 No way Chargers do not come away from the first round without a QB 1
Saxum Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 Any GM which trades so Cheats can get QB is stupid and even more so if they will be competitive enough for shot at Superbowl. 1
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