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9 minutes ago, BritBill said:

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Do any of the more mature members remember him?

 

Such a polite way of saying you're....

 

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5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

He had a cup of coffee, maybe a cigarette in Buffalo.


Missed 66% of his kicks and back home in time for tea. 

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57 minutes ago, BritBill said:

I've never heard of this chap before. His Bills career was very fleeting.

 

Do any of the more mature members remember him?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/american-football/52293446

 

Like many kickers it took a number of years to get established.

 

 
          Game Game 0-19 0-19 20-2 20-2 30-3 30-3 40-4 40-4 50+ 50+ Scor Scor   Scor Scor Scor Scor  
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS FGA FGM FGA FGM FGA FGM FGA FGM FGA FGM FGA FGM Lng FG% XPA XPM XP% AV
Care Care       110   6 5 44 37 53 32 71 35 15 3 189 112 52 59.3% 257 240 93.4% 14
6 yr 6 yr STL     74 0 5 4 32 27 36 24 55 28 13 3 141 86 52 61.0% 188 181 96.3% 10
2 yr 2 yr TAM     31 0 1 1 10 9 15 7 15 7 1   42 24 47 57.1% 64 55 85.9% 4
1 yr 1 yr BUF     5 0     2 1 2 1 1   1   6 2 30 33.3% 5 4 80.0% 0
1977 24 BUF   8 5 0     2 1 2 1 1   1   6 2 30 33.3% 5 4 80.0% 0
1978 25 TAM   6 15 0     6 6 6 2 10 5 1   23 13 47 56.5% 29 25 86.2% 2
1979 26 TAM   6 16 0 1 1 4 3 9 5 5 2     19 11 44 57.9% 35 30 85.7% 2
1980 27 STL   11 10 0     3 3 4 3 8 5     15 11 43 73.3% 18 18 100.0% 3
1981 28 STL   11 16 0 2 2 8 8 6 4 11 5 5   32 19 47 59.4% 37 36 97.3% 3
1982 29 STL   11 8 0 1 1 3 2 3 3 6 2     13 8 48 61.5% 16 15 93.8% 2
1983 30 STL   11 16 0 1   6 4 8 3 10 6 3 2 28 15 52 53.6% 47 45 95.7% 0
1984 31 STL   11 16 0     7 7 9 7 16 8 3 1 35 23 52 65.7% 51 48 94.1% 2
1985 32 STL   11 8 0 1 1 5 3 6 4 4 2 2   18 10 49 55.6% 19 19 100.0% 0
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I lived 1.5 miles north of the stadium, off Abbott Rd, in 1977.  I walked to the 1st 2 home games, so I was in the stands.  There's a very good chance I yelled "you suck" at him every time he missed a FG in each of those 2 games. 

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1977 was a horrible year for the Bills.  OJ got hurt and never played for the Bills again.  Jim Ringo was the HC.  His 3-20 career record earn him consideration as the worst NFL head coach in NFL history. 

 

The O was pathetic.  The D was terrible.  Not sure who watched these games.

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I think when he was in Tampa he made NFL Films highlights when he tried to soccer kick an errant snap and whiffed.  That’s my memory of him. 

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What I remember was they drafted him in '77 and the he held out through all of training camp and almost the entire preseason......yes you read that right....a kicker actually held out over a contract. Once he finally signed he was terrible and got cut partway through the season. Ironically he was replaced by a kicker named Carson Long who couldn't really kick all that long. 

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Nope don't remember him but that could have been a part of the drug induced coma i was in in the late 70's & 80's ? just saying ?

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2 hours ago, DJB said:

 

Such a polite way of saying you're....

 

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Funny! But many younger members here in their 40's do remember him.

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I recall his tenure.  Yep, an old guy.  The coaches wanted to give him a chance to make it, but he had a terrible start to the season, and the players felt he was "shaky" back there.  So, the Bills cut him, he lost the confidence of his teammates.  I was not surprised he resurfaced in the league, but, he had worn out his welcome with the Bills.

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it was over for this dude after opening day 1977... he missed 2 kicks on that rainy day at home against the Dolphins  when it was close game...during the zero for the 1970s run Shula and company laid on us; same more or less as Brady and BB did to us this past decade

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He also went 3 for 15 from 50 yards plus for his career which lasted several years; hard to fathom why drafted (Bills 5th round) and why he last so long.

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3 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

Like many kickers it took a number of years to get established.

 

 
          Game Game 0-19 0-19 20-2 20-2 30-3 30-3 40-4 40-4 50+ 50+ Scor Scor   Scor Scor Scor Scor  
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS FGA FGM FGA FGM FGA FGM FGA FGM FGA FGM FGA FGM Lng FG% XPA XPM XP% AV
Care Care       110   6 5 44 37 53 32 71 35 15 3 189 112 52 59.3% 257 240 93.4% 14
6 yr 6 yr STL     74 0 5 4 32 27 36 24 55 28 13 3 141 86 52 61.0% 188 181 96.3% 10
2 yr 2 yr TAM     31 0 1 1 10 9 15 7 15 7 1   42 24 47 57.1% 64 55 85.9% 4
1 yr 1 yr BUF     5 0     2 1 2 1 1   1   6 2 30 33.3% 5 4 80.0% 0
                                                 
1977 24 BUF   8 5 0     2 1 2 1 1   1   6 2 30 33.3% 5 4 80.0% 0
1978 25 TAM   6 15 0     6 6 6 2 10 5 1   23 13 47 56.5% 29 25 86.2% 2
1979 26 TAM   6 16 0 1 1 4 3 9 5 5 2     19 11 44 57.9% 35 30 85.7% 2
1980 27 STL   11 10 0     3 3 4 3 8 5     15 11 43 73.3% 18 18 100.0% 3
1981 28 STL   11 16 0 2 2 8 8 6 4 11 5 5   32 19 47 59.4% 37 36 97.3% 3
1982 29 STL   11 8 0 1 1 3 2 3 3 6 2     13 8 48 61.5% 16 15 93.8% 2
1983 30 STL   11 16 0 1   6 4 8 3 10 6 3 2 28 15 52 53.6% 47 45 95.7% 0
1984 31 STL   11 16 0     7 7 9 7 16 8 3 1 35 23 52 65.7% 51 48 94.1% 2
1985 32 STL   11 8 0 1 1 5 3 6 4 4 2 2   18 10 49 55.6% 19 19 100.0% 0

How the hell does someone that bad at their job play for nine years?

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