Beane: Not even contemplating trading up to 1st round

[BuffaloHokie13]

if we were to hypothetically make a play for a 1st round pick, it'd be by way of a player and not a future pick. Remember, the whole reason we were even at 12 in 2018 was because we traded Cordy Glenn to move up. Then we packaged 12 with other picks to get to 7. We do have an excess of decent quality o-linemen. They are more valuable than most of our picks if we're really trying to move up.

[Rocky Landing]

15 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

 I bet there is no real difference in this years draft and other years.  I think people completely overrate how hard drafting is.  Look at their film breakdown that’s all over YouTube, google the player’s history, and have virtual meetings with them. 
 

some of these guys act like they are trying to find the cure to the Coronavirus.  

I don't remember where I saw the interview, but Beane was recently asked about the issues with the limited scouting protocols, and his comments very much contradict your comment, here. In one of the more humorous anecdotes he talked about how even the guys who picked up prospects from the airport would be questioned about their attitudes, and comments they might make on the drive to the facility. I think, especially with Beane, character matters, and learning how someone acts when they aren't in an interview is important to him.

[C.Biscuit97]

3 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Yes, he's traded up. But except for the major haul of picks they acquired to bring in a QB, where they ended up lucking into not only a QB but also Edmund with the extras ... Beane's never traded away anything from the first two days. More than that, he's never emptied out a round. That is to say, he's never traded a pick unless he either had another pick left in the same round or he'd already doubled up in an earlier round. 

 

If he keeps that up, he'll only trade away one of our two sixth rounders, unless he accumulates some extra picks from trading back or trading player for pick. So I could definitely see him trading up, but the folks who expect a big move upwards are expecting him to break his tendencies. 

 

Agreed that pass rusher and receiver are bigger needs than most realise, though I don't think size is the factor you do. If we need a big guy, they can just keep Duke Williams.

I think Duke had some big moments but there must be something that’s holding the Bills back with him.  
 

and I’m only talking about Young. I would say that Three guys I hope make it to us in the second are Claypool, Pittman, or Gross Matos.

1 minute ago, Rocky Landing said:

I don't remember where I saw the interview, but Beane was recently asked about the issues with the limited scouting protocols, and his comments very much contradict your comment, here. In one of the more humorous anecdotes he talked about how even the guys who picked up prospects from the airport would be questioned about their attitudes, and comments they might make on the drive to the facility. I think, especially with Beane, character matters, and learning how someone acts when they aren't in an interview is important to him.

I mean what is he going to say?  That if this board did a consensus Pick here, they would build just as good of team If not better?  

[4BillsintheBurgh]

I'm thinking if we're going to trade up in the first two days it's going to be a few spots in the third. There might be a guy they covet that has made it through (maybe a cb) longer than they expected.

In the past, it seems need for starters has driven the trade ups, looking for guys that can help us now without dipping into the next tier down. Like when they went up for Knox, "there was a significant dropoff after him". Seemed to be the same story with Ford, Edmunds and really Allen. Since we are a more solid team, I don't know if the desire to get a starter thinking will drive Beane this year. Seems like we can afford to let the draft come to us a little more this year.

[CaptnCoke11]

Trading back into the 2nd or 3rd round is what I’m thinking he does.  

[y2zipper]

The strategy I would use this year is trading out of this seasons draft entirely if I could.

[JoeF]

33 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

He’s traded up in every draft so far. 
 

and I think pass rusher and big receiver are much bigger needs than most fans realize.  Our receiving code is tiny.  And our 2 best pass rushers are in their 30s and Hughes is averaging like 5 sacks/ season for the last 4 years.  

I bet there is no real difference in this years draft and other years.  I think people completely overrate how hard drafting is.  Look at their film breakdown that’s all over YouTube, google the player’s history, and have virtual meetings with them. 
 

some of these guys act like they are trying to find the cure to the Coronavirus.  

Valid opinion....a lot can be done virtually.  Here's where I differ a bit -- I think white-boarding and watching film in the same room; examinations by team affiliated doctors and viewing interactions in person with the staff are important to Beane and McDermott.  McDermott has mentioned a few times that its important to him to see how a prospect interacts with the admin staff ...

 

Some good stuff in the article from a year ago..

 

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2019/02/27/nfl-combine-2019-things-buffalo-bills-coach-sean-mcdermott-said/3003357002/

[Putin]

1 hour ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I did not flush out my entire point which is that unless we get a top 10 pick it is unlikely the player will have a large impact on our team this season and I would rather see 6 new faces to build up than one new face who needs to be built up.

Do we have room on this roaster for 6 new faces ? And how much contribution will we get from all of them ? 

[bigK14094]

2 hours ago, Greg S said:

I never pay much attention to any interview that Beane or McDermott give. Both are experts at giving detailed answers, but the reality is they don't say anything, which is the way its supposed to be. I prefer the Bills operate this way rather than the days of big mouth Rex who always wanted to "win" the press conference.

Interesting parallel...I see it!

33 minutes ago, y2zipper said:

The strategy I would use this year is trading out of this seasons draft entirely if I could.

No, real players availble in rnds 2-3, and sometimes in rnd 4-5

 

the one reason to get back into the first is you get to keep they guy for a fifth year if you want.

Edited April 15, 2020 by bigK14094
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[ChattanoogaBills]

2 hours ago, Hardhatharry said:

He will end up with two 2nd round picks, and two 3rd round picks. I think he will be trading up heavily into those rounds for guys he thinks can earn a spot on this team easily compared to some late rounder. 

I highly doubt this. Beane seems great at picking contributers in the late rounds. I think we might see one trade up this draft maybe in the 3rd rd.

I really don't understand why so many people think our roster is so stacked. If we have a injury bug like philly did last year. We will need rookies to contribute more than last year.

We still need depth and future players to develop under our veterans. So lets not mortgage our future so much. Remember Beane is a wizard at finding late round talent i.e. Tommy Sweeney, D. Johnson.

[ChattanoogaBills]

1 hour ago, Putin said:

Do we have room on this roaster for 6 new faces ? And how much contribution will we get from all of them ? 

I would say yes we do. Im not sure ...injuries might decide how much a rookie plays like with Sweeney a 7th round pick last year. We aren't as deep as bills fans seem to think. Chances are we aren't as lucky two years in a row with our teams injurys.

[Sherlock Holmes]

 

3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

3 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

He's said that in previous interviews - that "Stefon Diggs is our first round pick" and that it'll be hard to get through the first round without a pick, but he plans to cue up some Stefon Diggs highlight films.

 

3 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Smokescreen.

 

He’s already working on a deal to get Chase Young.

Well we gotta save some ammo for McCaffrey now that we got them to get the contract settled

[machine gun kelly]

We may move up a little in the 2nd or 3rd, but that’s it.  I don’t know what people are thinking we could move up for Chase Young.  That’s like saying we can trade for Rodgers.  Fantasyland.

 

Beane seems to have a penchant to move up which is great and we are not in a position we need more players and move down.  We’re not rebuilding at this point.  I wouldn’t be surprised if we end up with maybe 4 picks total and bundle the other 3 to move a little higher. I don’t see us trading away a player or any pics from next years draft.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

He's said that in previous interviews - that "Stefon Diggs is our first round pick" and that it'll be hard to get through the first round without a pick, but he plans to cue up some Stefon Diggs highlight films.

 

...as expected.....at the same time, Beane and his high quality staff have done a great job in finding value at the right price in rounds subsequent to the 1st IMO.........

Edited April 15, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[billsfan_34]

4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

Anticipate and contemplate are much different words. It really is a huge poker game thou. We would have to give a lot to get into the first round.

[CEN-CAL17]

These statements are so dumb.... of course he’s gonna put that out there regardless.

 

i would. Nope we are not trading. Then if a team contacts me, or I contact them cause they may be desperate.... I tell them, “look you know I came out and said I wasn’t going to do this, this is my offer”....

 

You’ll get more of what you want for less going that route. But like I said, I think it’s the only route. “We look at all players, we like our board now and we aren’t looking to do that”.... 

[Orlando Buffalo]

2 hours ago, Putin said:

Do we have room on this roaster for 6 new faces ? And how much contribution will we get from all of them ? 

We have room on the practice squad which I think was also expanded- basically 2 on regular roster and 4 on PS

[ROCBillsBeliever]

4 hours ago, Lurker said:

I'm glad that's settled...

 

Not according to @ScorpionZero:
 

 

[ChattanoogaBills]

18 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

We have room on the practice squad which I think was also expanded- basically 2 on regular roster and 4 on PS

So you dont think a 5th rd TE (maybe J.Pickney or the Dayton TE) could possibly beat out Kroft or Sweeney for a roster spot.

Do you really think our depth is that completely solid. A few injuries to any positions other than the O &D lines scares the crap out if me.

If J. Brown and C. Beasley went down for 6-8 weeks our wr group would be simply trash besides Diggs. If Edmunds and milano were hurt for 6-8 games I'd hate to see who all was left.

We need more solid competition. Im willing to bet atleast 2-3 4th to 7th rounders make this squad. Especially with the wizard Beane drafting them.

[Rocky Landing]

5 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

 

I mean what is he going to say?  That if this board did a consensus Pick here, they would build just as good of team If not better?  

 

I wish I had a link to the interview. It wasn't a written interview, but a FaceTime sort of thing. He was speaking quite earnestly about the struggles of the limited scouting process. I can see no reason to believe he wasn't being honest.

 

 

Edited April 16, 2020 by Rocky Landing