Mr. K Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 2 hours ago, inaugural balls said: I gotta look at his highlights. Not at all familiar with him. Sounds good what you're saying. There are so many good RBs in this draft, imo. I've been on the Dillon train because I love his style of the bruising back, always have. I see him as a good compliment to Singletary. Also, as good as the top 3-4 guys in this class goes, I don't think it's realistic to land them with where we pick nor do I think it's worth what it might take to get one of them. Lotta good backs. I'll bet I'll be happy with who we select. He should be available rounds 3-5 and i'd take him in any of those slots. 1
Thurman#1 Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, maryland-bills-fan said: ..or we could buy a inexpensive but great Corvette for 4 years rather than getting a good price on a beat up Pinto. That metaphor just doesn't fit the situation. I mean, you can pretend if you want that every draft pick works out the way you think it will, but that's what it would be ... pretending. Remember 1st rounder Laurence Maroney? Only slightly, right? Me too. Ki-Jana Carter, 1st overall? Yeah, they overdrafted him but everybody liked him in the top ten or fifteen picks. Remember Kenny Irons in the 2nd? Bishop Sankey in the 2nd? Montee Ball in the 2nd? I could go on and on. It's pretending also that the best few FAs left are Pintos. That's just nonsense. If you wanted to make that metaphor more realistic you'd have to put it something like ... you can get an inexpensive Corvette with minimal wear (college ball) knowing that a very fair number of them turn out to be lemons though plenty perform well, or you could bring in a more beat-up nicked-up old muscle car that you have a terrific history on with an engine that has shown itself to perform well over time but also knowing that most cars bought that way don't have much left in terms of ceiling and will wear out within the next few years. You don't want an FA? Fine, fair enough. The FAs are Pintos? Nonsense. Edited April 17, 2020 by Thurman#1
maryland-bills-fan Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 21 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I think we will still run it that 29 or so times, and I think they will try and run Allen less. I don't love him. I wouldn't hate it but I think we need a speed guy rather than a bruiser. Notice that we are using our QB as a running back instead of Singeltary. Singletary (projecting his 12 games to 16 game stats), would have ~200 carries for 948 yards. Allen had 95 carries of 523 yards. So the QB has about half the yardage and carries as your RB1A. Allen is carrying a lot of the running game on designed running plays and short yardage situations. Do we really want him to get hurt? Hmmm. (Yes, I know that scrambles and run/pass options are part of his totals, but so are sacks).
stinky finger Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) On 4/16/2020 at 3:56 AM, Alphadawg7 said: AJ DILLON, reminds me of Jerome Bettis or Derrick Henry. Size. Power. Speed. Great Hands. Elusive. Some team will be very glad they selected him. I hope it's us. At 3:20 #17 being repelled. I want some of this in our offense. And if he can catch a bit, look out. Edited April 17, 2020 by inaugural balls
stinky finger Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 23 hours ago, delirious said: Yes please do. Eno is awesome Watched some highlights. Kids not afraid of contact and has no problem running between the tackles. Seems gritty and plays with an attitude. Also showed some juke in the open field. Not a track star (4.57) 40. Does remind me of Devin S. - which is a compliment. I'm never good at slotting guys, but with the "high end" talent at this position and where RB is currently valued, I'd venture a guess that a kid like this could be had in the 5th. Depending on who else might slip and if we haven't addressed the position by then. Lets go. He's fun to watch. 1
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 A few things: -People are legitimately sleeping on Singletary. He was our best player on offense last year and he is the #1 guy. The smartest thing we could do this season is give him the ball as much as possible. -TJ Yeldon is good. I spent ever week last year saying he should be active and Gore should have been donated to the museum. Gore was the issue last year and he single handily killed drives in huge spots constantly. Yeldon needed to be the 2 last year and he absolutely could be it this year. The guy could probably catch 50 passes as the #2 RB in this offense and he’s a much better runner then people realize. Him not playing last year was a major issue and a mistake that I feel cost is dearly in the Houston loss. Yeldon can be in the mix here. -I’m totally good with us drafting a RB and I expect the Bills to probably do so. IMO the guy we need to complement Singletary is an all around but physical back. Kind of in that Chris Ivory mode. A guy that can come in and go north and south but not be just a slower, 3 yard bruiser. A guy that runs hard but can also break it every now and then. Singletary is incredibly shifty and quick laterally but he also runs very hard for his size. I’m not looking to add another quick home run threat type guy. I want a runner that can be very physical and make defenses have to tackle with all they have for 60 mins. A guy in the Ivory/Lynch/Thomas Jones/Travis Henry mold. 1
mjt328 Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 The Running Back we select needs to compliment Devin Singletary. Which means he should be good in areas that Singletary isn't. Where Singletary is shifty, the new guy should be strong, powerful and good running between the tackles. He must be great at ball security. Someone we can use in goal line situations, and grinding out the clock in the 4th Quarter. At the same time, I don't want someone that is one-dimensional and cannot catch the ball. The defense should not be able to key on run vs. pass based on who is in the game. 1
CBD Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) I think Zack Moss is the best compliment to Singletary, I think the Bills will want a larger short yardage back. I think Edwards-Helaire is the best RB in the draft, but has similar style to Singletary. Edited April 17, 2020 by CBD 2 1
delirious Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 22 minutes ago, mjt328 said: ... At the same time, I don't want someone that is one-dimensional and cannot catch the ball. The defense should not be able to key on run vs. pass based on who is in the game. That's my biggest want out all of this. I'm not going to die on the hill for x type running back. If we get a bruiser, cool. If we get a shifty speedy guy, cool. If we get a Devin Singletary clone, cool. The only thing I don't want is predictability like it was last year when Frank Gore was out on the field. 1
YoloinOhio Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 (edited) On 4/16/2020 at 8:21 AM, inaugural balls said: I believe it's a shared duty focusing on the RB strengths, opposing defenses weakness and game plan. We need another quality RB. Who doesn't love Taylor? Are you willing to give up what it'll take to get him? I like Taylor. I don’t love him. I think he’s big, fast and good between the tackles but he has 1000+ carries, a history of fumbling, no proven success in the receiving game. I would draft him to play with Devin, I wouldn’t give up anything for him. He’s a Derrick Henry type but remember it took Henry awhile to get going in the nfl. 1 hour ago, mjt328 said: The Running Back we select needs to compliment Devin Singletary. Which means he should be good in areas that Singletary isn't. Where Singletary is shifty, the new guy should be strong, powerful and good running between the tackles. He must be great at ball security. Someone we can use in goal line situations, and grinding out the clock in the 4th Quarter. At the same time, I don't want someone that is one-dimensional and cannot catch the ball. The defense should not be able to key on run vs. pass based on who is in the game. Taylor is a good complement with his strength between the tackles and speed wise but I have a feeling the Bills will want someone they’ve seen contribute to the passing game on film. Edited April 17, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1
billsfan89 Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 I don't know the draft that well to fall in love with any players in the mid round range but I hope this team invests at DE, WR or CB in rounds 2 and 3 and then dips into the RB pool in round 4 or 5. Once again value is where they will likely go but need wise I would rather target several other positions in rounds 2 and 3 before I address RB. Of course if the value is insane at pick 54 I think you can justify a RB there. 1 1
Blokestradamus Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 If the Bills went down the veteran route for RB2 (Yeldon and/or a free agent), I wouldn't hate them spending a 7th on JaMycal Hasty from Baylor. I think he's quicker than his timed speed. Nice route runner, decent hands. Probably a guy suited to being an RB3 or on the PS as a rookie. Let him work on his pass pro technique. Could be a nice little investment piece for the future.
Logic Posted April 18, 2020 Author Posted April 18, 2020 For what it’s worth, Erik Turner of Cover 1 said today he doesn’t feel like Darrynton Evans — who the Bills have talked to a bunch — is necessarily RB2 quality. More like a 3rd down back and return specialist.
DJB Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, Logic said: For what it’s worth, Erik Turner of Cover 1 said today he doesn’t feel like Darrynton Evans — who the Bills have talked to a bunch — is necessarily RB2 quality. More like a 3rd down back and return specialist. I'd agree with that statement. Hes not going to come in and immediately be able to be a teams RB2. Pass protection issues, overall size and hes still developing. What makes him intriguing is that it's a nice mold of clay. Elite speed and he doesn't fumble but needs work being a complete back. Probably goes in the 5 or 6 range and at that spot normally an RB is more of a 3rd guy looking to improve and carve out a role. 1
thebandit27 Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 On 4/17/2020 at 10:48 AM, Brianmoorman4jesus said: A few things: -People are legitimately sleeping on Singletary. He was our best player on offense last year and he is the #1 guy. The smartest thing we could do this season is give him the ball as much as possible. -TJ Yeldon is good. I spent ever week last year saying he should be active and Gore should have been donated to the museum. Gore was the issue last year and he single handily killed drives in huge spots constantly. Yeldon needed to be the 2 last year and he absolutely could be it this year. The guy could probably catch 50 passes as the #2 RB in this offense and he’s a much better runner then people realize. Him not playing last year was a major issue and a mistake that I feel cost is dearly in the Houston loss. Yeldon can be in the mix here. -I’m totally good with us drafting a RB and I expect the Bills to probably do so. IMO the guy we need to complement Singletary is an all around but physical back. Kind of in that Chris Ivory mode. A guy that can come in and go north and south but not be just a slower, 3 yard bruiser. A guy that runs hard but can also break it every now and then. Singletary is incredibly shifty and quick laterally but he also runs very hard for his size. I’m not looking to add another quick home run threat type guy. I want a runner that can be very physical and make defenses have to tackle with all they have for 60 mins. A guy in the Ivory/Lynch/Thomas Jones/Travis Henry mold. Wait, our best player on offense is a guy that scored 3 TDs all season despite 180 touches? I’m going to go with no on that one. And it isn’t sleeping on the guy to say that RB is a huge need. Singletary showed promise as a rookie, but it would be the height of negligence to count solely on him to carry the run game. Not to mention that injuries happen to everyone at some point. 3
ColoradoBills Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 39 minutes ago, Logic said: For what it’s worth, Erik Turner of Cover 1 said today he doesn’t feel like Darrynton Evans — who the Bills have talked to a bunch — is necessarily RB2 quality. More like a 3rd down back and return specialist. I can now see that Beane could be interested in a combination RB/KR/PR specialist. A guy like this could replace Roberts which frees another WR spot. Could it be the Bills will draft an Evans along with a true 1B? 1
mob16151 Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 AJ Dillon big bruising, and while not supper fast, isn't a plodder either.
papazoid Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 likely gone by 54....swift, helaire, taylor, dobbins available....moss, akers, dillon moss at 54, akers and dillon at 86 are good value 1
OldTimer1960 Posted April 18, 2020 Posted April 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, papazoid said: likely gone by 54....swift, helaire, taylor, dobbins available....moss, akers, dillon moss at 54, akers and dillon at 86 are good value I prefer Akers over Moss, but think either in 3rd could be enticing. Less excited by Dillon - power won’t be so advantageous vs NFL defenses and his elusiveness is not a strength (imho)
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