SI Article: forget about sports this year

[dorquemada]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

 

It would be easier to forget about Sports Illustrated instead.  I'd pretty much already done that in fact

 

in all seriousness, SI seems to have become a publication that doesn't like sports very much

[NoSaint]

1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said:

Well, somebody isn’t bothering to stay current.

China has already opened up Baseball, Japan Baseball is in Spring Training and South Korea is about to begin play.

I think we are projecting a lot of the worst worries from being in the thick of it to a time months from now without accounting for reality being far below the worst worries even currently. 
 

would not be shocked if the nfl played but allowed refunds to at risk fans for instance 

[dwight in philly]

1 hour ago, BillsVet said:

No one knows nuthin bout nuthin and these doom and gloom articles are nonsense at this point.  It's kinda like running presidential polls in February when the election is in November.

 

Sports will return and this will pass.  I cannot imagine the rabid NFL fans sitting idly by and not being able to tailgate.  That will not go over well.  

 

I still remember tailgating in the fall of 2009 amid the H1N1 virus.  People were scared but out and about.  

 

 

I agree , i think football , life as we know it , with a few adjustments , returns sooner than we imagine.. 

[GunnerBill]

36 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

 

I want normal, I want sports too, but even talking about opening up the country or sports right now is incredibly short sighted. 

 

I do agree with this but I think if the US isn't ready to open again by September it has probably take some wrong decisions somewhere along the line. If we get a double peak there will be no NFL. If we can avoid that my gut instinct is still that there will be.

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

The article comes across like a piece of fiction peppered with a few facts to give it plausibility. I choose optimism over doomsday scenarios. The virus will change some aspects of life, but at some point in the near future, life will prevail.

[SF Bills Fan]

I think there will be a season and it will be on time. Training camp and pre-season will be in jeopardy or happen in some different fashion, but the regular season will happen on time. In the vast majority of the country, this thing has already peaked and I see a steady, but slow return to normalcy over the next few months with summer being relatively close to business as usual. The only way it is postponed is if we see this thing spiking in the fall again, but I believe there may be better and widespread testing and treatment to prevent the wholesale panic and unknown of the last few months. I can't see people going for another shutdown again like we are in, though. I think people are more likely to try to tough it out for their livelihoods and they will want entertainment. With widespread quick testing (which is rolling out now), it'll be easy- test positive and you can't go to the game or work. The one big challenge is the players themselves. If a player contracts the virus and then brings it to the rest of the team, you could have a scenario where a good chunk of the team is a mini-hotspot and is out for 2-3 weeks. That simply would not work. There would be zero fan/player interaction (i.e. the first ten rows of stadium  would be empty) and the players would be basically isolated all season while they played or something along those lines. There is enough money at stake that someone will come up with a plan. 

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[BillsFan17]

1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said:

Well, somebody isn’t bothering to stay current.

China has already opened up Baseball, Japan Baseball is in Spring Training and South Korea is about to begin play.

Lmao yeah, they are the model to follow. Gtfo 

[aristocrat]

a few weeks ago they were predicting millions of deaths. now looking more like under 100k. who knows where we will be in a month. 

[plenzmd1]

53 minutes ago, wiseman3 said:

If you think there won't be sports, then you have to accept that there won't be school as well. What is the difference between thousands of students packing into schools every day and thousands of fans packing a stadium once a week? 

Age no ? and the effects on the young..which seem to be minimal

37 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

 

We don't know for sure if doctors will ever come up with a vaccine.  And even if they do, it will be at least 2021 before they can complete full testing/clinical trials and be confident it doesn't cause disastrous side-effects.

 

If people are planning to wait for a vaccine before they are willing to re-open society, then a lot of these things we love are going to disappear permanently.  And professional sports are not exempt from that.  Even billionaires don't have an infinite amount of money to just sit on the sidelines without income for 12-18 months.  I was reading yesterday that Disney is losing $20-30 million PER DAY by having their parks closed.  Many of these NFL owners are taking huge losses on multiple areas of their business.

 

Listening to health experts, there are multiple ways (even without a vaccine) that we can gradually work our way back into normalcy.  This includes getting back to large public gatherings like sports.

 

One is by offering extensive testing, which can identify who has the virus currently (so they can be quarantined faster) and who has already recovered from it.  Once a person has recovered, they are immune and can be released to operate as normal without being a risk of getting infected again or being a carrier and infecting another person.  This is called herd immunity.  It's very likely that MANY people have already had this and didn't even know.  As you can imagine, coming up with 328 million tests for every individual in the country is a very tall task.  So right now, the tests are being prioritized for those showing serious symptoms.  But as time goes along, it's more likely we can achieve the ability to test most, if not all Americans.

 

Second is by discovering medicines, drugs and treatments for the virus.  This will not take anywhere near as long as a vaccine, especially if something is found among currently FDA-approved drugs.  There are already multiple treatments (specifically those currently used to treat Malaria and Ebola) which are already being prescribed by doctors for critically-ill patients and proving to be very effective against this virus. 

 

Third is by making adjustments to our practices at large gatherings.  Requiring people to wear masks.  Taking temperatures at the door/gate.  Taking extra steps to sanitize.  Etc.

 

Agree with the entirety of this post..very smart man you are that we think alike?

 

In terms of how many people have had it...i will look for the link but I am watching CNBC right now and one the hosts said NY Presbyterian Hospital admitted 200 women in the last little while for childbirth, allasymptomatic, and 39 tested poitive for the Rona...and thats great news( I think)

 

[Marv's Neighbor]

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

[PetermansRedemption]

56 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

I mean is it? Everyone is being told to stay in their homes and we can't even handle that. You think all these millionaire professional athletes, not to mention all the support staff who have families are just going to self isolate for 4 months for your entertainment?

 

Almost 24,000 people have died in the US from this. Just under 3000 died on 9/11. We have been dumping money around the world, sending soldiers to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan to keep us safe from one 9/11 happening again. We've already had that for 8 days now and were a month into dealing with this. 

 

I want normal, I want sports too, but even talking about opening up the country or sports right now is incredibly short sighted. 

 

 

Yes, it absolutely is easier to control 300 people than 70,000. They don’t have to follow any rules if they don’t want to, that is their right. They can run around town every night of the week. The only time they will be isolated is the day before game day after they get their rapid test. They aren’t living in isolation for the entire season. 

[Greg S]

5 minutes ago, SF Bills Fan said:

I think there will be a season and it will be on time. Training camp and pre-season will be in jeopardy or happen in some different fashion, but the regular season will happen on time. In the vast majority of the country, this thing has already peaked and I see a steady, but slow return to normalcy over the next few months with summer being relatively close to business as usual. The only way it is postponed is if we see this thing spiking in the fall again, but I believe there may be better and widespread testing and treatment to prevent the wholesale panic and unknown of the last few months. I can't see people going for another shutdown again like we are in, though. I think people are more likely to try to tough it out for their livelihoods and they will want entertainment. With widespread quick testing (which is rolling out now), it'll be easy- test positive and you can't go to the game or work. The one big challenge is the players themselves. If a player contracts the virus and then brings it to the rest of the team, you could have a scenario where a good chunk of the team is a mini-hotspot and is out for 2-3 weeks. That simply would not work. There would be zero fan/player interaction (i.e. the first ten rows of stadium  would be empty) and the players would be basically isolated all season while they played or something along those lines. There is enough money at stake that someone will come up with a plan. 

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Speaking of training camp and the off-season. I would think teams like the Bills have an advantage being that McDermott is going into his 4th season. Same OC/DC so the players know the system and schemes that are in place. Team has already built up a lot of chemistry with one another which helps considering they won't have much time on the field now. No mini-camp, rookie camp, OTA's. Diggs while a vet will probably need some time to develop chemistry with Allen and the offense in general but he will probably get there quickly. I would imagine every team will have a hard time getting their draft picks up to speed with so little practice time before the season though.

 

At the other end of the spectrum is Giants rookie HC Joe Judge going into his first year in what will be a major rebuild. It's hard for a first year HC in a normal offseason but with this being difficult times it only makes his job that much harder.

[soflabillsfan1]

48 minutes ago, mjt328 said:

 

We don't know for sure if doctors will ever come up with a vaccine.  And even if they do, it will be at least 2021 before they can complete full testing/clinical trials and be confident it doesn't cause disastrous side-effects.

 

If people are planning to wait for a vaccine before they are willing to re-open society, then a lot of these things we love are going to disappear permanently.  And professional sports are not exempt from that.  Even billionaires don't have an infinite amount of money to just sit on the sidelines without income for 12-18 months.  I was reading yesterday that Disney is losing $20-30 million PER DAY by having their parks closed.  Many of these NFL owners are taking huge losses on multiple areas of their business.

 

Listening to health experts, there are multiple ways (even without a vaccine) that we can gradually work our way back into normalcy.  This includes getting back to large public gatherings like sports.

 

One is by offering extensive testing, which can identify who has the virus currently (so they can be quarantined faster) and who has already recovered from it.  Once a person has recovered, they are immune and can be released to operate as normal without being a risk of getting infected again or being a carrier and infecting another person.  This is called herd immunity.  It's very likely that MANY people have already had this and didn't even know.  As you can imagine, coming up with 328 million tests for every individual in the country is a very tall task.  So right now, the tests are being prioritized for those showing serious symptoms.  But as time goes along, it's more likely we can achieve the ability to test most, if not all Americans.

 

Second is by discovering medicines, drugs and treatments for the virus.  This will not take anywhere near as long as a vaccine, especially if something is found among currently FDA-approved drugs.  There are already multiple treatments (specifically those currently used to treat Malaria and Ebola) which are already being prescribed by doctors for critically-ill patients and proving to be very effective against this virus. 

 

Third is by making adjustments to our practices at large gatherings.  Requiring people to wear masks.  Taking temperatures at the door/gate.  Taking extra steps to sanitize.  Etc.

 

Great post!

[SF Bills Fan]

3 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

Speaking of training camp and the off-season. I would think teams like the Bills have an advantage being that McDermott is going into his 4th season. Same OC/DC so the players know the system and schemes that are in place. Team has already built up a lot of chemistry with one another which helps considering they won't have much time on the field now. No mini-camp, rookie camp, OTA's. Diggs while a vet will probably need some time to develop chemistry with Allen and the offense in general but he will probably get there quickly. I would imagine every team will have a hard time getting their draft picks up to speed with so little practice time before the season though.

 

At the other end of the spectrum is Giants rookie HC Joe Judge going into his first year in what will be a major rebuild. It's hard for a first year HC in a normal offseason but with this being difficult times it only makes his job that much harder.

That is an interesting observation and likely very true. The preseason will be very tough for an early stage rebuilding team with a new coach, especially if much of it is virtual. It will be strange times for all teams though. The virtual draft will be interesting. I'll miss the fat Jets fans all standing and booing no matter who they pick. 

[Franco_92]

2 hours ago, BillsVet said:

No one knows nuthin bout nuthin and these doom and gloom articles are nonsense at this point.  It's kinda like running presidential polls in February when the election is in November.

 

Sports will return and this will pass.  I cannot imagine the rabid NFL fans sitting idly by and not being able to tailgate.  That will not go over well.  

 

I still remember tailgating in the fall of 2009 amid the H1N1 virus.  People were scared but out and about.  

 

 

It's been bizarre to watch pessimism increase as our death toll looks more and more like its going to come in at a fraction of the best case scenarios of just two weeks ago.

[HappyDays]

23 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

a few weeks ago they were predicting millions of deaths. now looking more like under 100k. who knows where we will be in a month. 

 

The original predictions were assuming no widespread social distancing policies. The new predictions are assuming we continue the current social distancing policies. You have to read beyond the headlines with this stuff because the media is notoriously bad at reporting science.

[aristocrat]

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

The original predictions were assuming no widespread social distancing policies. The new predictions are assuming we continue the current social distancing policies. You have to read beyond the headlines with this stuff because the media is notoriously bad at reporting science.

 

if the original predictions did not include social distancing then they are not as smart as you think they are. the originals were high side 2-3 mil dead low side in the mid hundreds of thousands. even they didnt predict how well the shut down so far as gone. 

[Captain Hindsight]

21 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said:

Yes, it absolutely is easier to control 300 people than 70,000. They don’t have to follow any rules if they don’t want to, that is their right. They can run around town every night of the week. The only time they will be isolated is the day before game day after they get their rapid test. They aren’t living in isolation for the entire season. 

Read the article posted in the beginning of this thread. People who study infectious disease say they will absolutely have to live in isolation for the season. If one person tests positive, shut it down for two weeks at a minimum 

 

That is no way to run a sports league

[MJS]

1 minute ago, aristocrat said:

 

if the original predictions did not include social distancing then they are not as smart as you think they are. the originals were high side 2-3 mil dead low side in the mid hundreds of thousands. even they didnt predict how well the shut down so far as gone. 

Disease predictions are always incredibly inflated. Go look at the swine flu projections. We didn't even get to 10% of those numbers. And we won't for coronavirus either.

[Captain Hindsight]

1 minute ago, MJS said:

Disease predictions are always incredibly inflated. Go look at the swine flu projections. We didn't even get to 10% of those numbers. And we won't for coronavirus either.

They look at worst case scenarios. They wont get that high because we practiced social distancing and listened to medical people