mathja Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 If every team’s roster had zero players and a draft was held, with all current players as well as incoming draft eligible players, what would the first round look like? (Age is a factor. It’s not a 1 year redraft like a fantasy league). Would Josh Allen go in the first round? I think he would.
FireChans Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, mathja said: If every team’s roster had zero players and a draft was held, with all current players as well as incoming draft eligible players, what would the first round look like? (Age is a factor. It’s not a 1 year redraft like a fantasy league). Would Josh Allen go in the first round? I think he would. Yes. So would Murray, Darnold, Baker, Wilson, Watson, Mahomes etc. Every young QB that’s shown promise would be one of the first 32 picks taken. 2
JerseyBills Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) Oh yeah. Top 5-8 QB taken, imo. He has the leadership, swagger , heart , all the mental intangibles to be a true franchise QB . All the things you can't coach! There'd be some offensive minded HCs drooling to get Allen . He was so Raw coming out , his ceiling is ridiculously high Edited April 13, 2020 by JerseyBills 2
FireChans Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Oh yeah. Top 5-8 QB taken, imo. He has the leadership, swagger , heart , all the mental intangibles to be a true franchise QB . All the things you can't coach! There'd be some offensive minded HCs drooling to get Allen . He was so Raw coming out , his ceiling is ridiculously high I mean, top 8 isn’t really all that impressive when you consider there are only a handful of good youngish QB’s out there. Guys like Brady, Rodgers, Stafford, Brees, Ryan, Rivers, are all in their career twilights. Mahomes, Wilson, Watson, Lamar, Dak, Wentz, Allen, Murray, Darnold, Mayfield, Minshew would likely be the order, IMO. That just leaves the old dudes above and guys like Ryan Tannehill and Jared Goff. 1
mathja Posted April 13, 2020 Author Posted April 13, 2020 Minshew. Uggh. I’d freak if my team had the 11th pick and took Minshew. Burrow and Tua would be in the mix and then some left tackles and defensive ends. Corner is a premium position too. Maybe Tre white goes before pick 32. 1
FireChans Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, mathja said: Minshew. Uggh. I’d freak if my team had the 11th pick and took Minshew. Burrow and Tua would be in the mix and then some left tackles and defensive ends. Corner is a premium position too. Maybe Tre white goes before pick 32. Oh that was just the order of QB’s taken, not players. I think there would be a lot of players in between them.
buffalobillswin Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 Well it would be a QB heavy first round and I'd bet guys like Joe Burrow and Tua would go in the first round and over Josh. 3
The Fiend Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 47 minutes ago, FireChans said: I mean, top 8 isn’t really all that impressive when you consider there are only a handful of good youngish QB’s out there. Guys like Brady, Rodgers, Stafford, Brees, Ryan, Rivers, are all in their career twilights. Mahomes, Wilson, Watson, Lamar, Dak, Wentz, Allen, Murray, Darnold, Mayfield, Minshew would likely be the order, IMO. That just leaves the old dudes above and guys like Ryan Tannehill and Jared Goff. You really think Allen, Murray, Darnold, Mayfield, and Minshew would all be taken before Goff? BTW, SI recently ranked Minshew dead last: https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/04/10/ranking-ever-team-quarterback-situation Edited April 13, 2020 by The Fiend
whatdrought Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 I think Allen would go top 10. It’s an interesting thought exercise... A spin off question... who would be the first non-QB taken? 1
Logic Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I think Allen would go top 10. It’s an interesting thought exercise... A spin off question... who would be the first non-QB taken? Hmmm... I’d guess it would be someone who affects the quarterback. Myles Garrett or Nick Bosa or Aaron Donald. I kind of want to do this hypothetical exercise now. Not sure if we’d get enough people to make it happen, though.
Bookie Man Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) Doubtful Allen would go in the 1st round. I can name off about 20 players under the age of 25 that would probably go before him. That's not including guys in the trenches that I'm not that familiar with, nor guys in this years draft. And that's also not including guys like Russel Wilson and JJ Watt. I would think more of like a late 2nd round to 4th, which is still pretty high considering there'd be at least 24 rounds (if you'd want to draft for all positions and kickers (not including other ST positions)). Edited April 13, 2020 by Raleigh • √eff 2
Billl Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, FireChans said: I mean, top 8 isn’t really all that impressive when you consider there are only a handful of good youngish QB’s out there. Guys like Brady, Rodgers, Stafford, Brees, Ryan, Rivers, are all in their career twilights. Mahomes, Wilson, Watson, Lamar, Dak, Wentz, Allen, Murray, Darnold, Mayfield, Minshew would likely be the order, IMO. That just leaves the old dudes above and guys like Ryan Tannehill and Jared Goff. There is ZERO chance Allen would go ahead of Murray. 40 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I think Allen would go top 10. It’s an interesting thought exercise... A spin off question... who would be the first non-QB taken? Donald then Bosa 1
Bangarang Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 40 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I think Allen would go top 10. It’s an interesting thought exercise... A spin off question... who would be the first non-QB taken? I doubt Allen goes in the top 10 2
Koko78 Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, The Fiend said: You really think Allen, Murray, Darnold, Mayfield, and Minshew would all be taken before Goff? BTW, SI recently ranked Minshew dead last: https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/04/10/ranking-ever-team-quarterback-situation @Bray Wyatt
Logic Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 My mock top 10 picks if the NFL started from scratch tomorrow (I took age into account, because these teams are starting from scratch, so old dudes seem like bad picks): 1. Patrick Mahomes 2. Deshaun Watson 3. Russell Wilson (a bit old at 31, but figure we can get a good decade out of him) 4. Lamar Jackson 5. Carson Wentz 6. Kyler Murray 7. Aaron Donald 8. Myles Garrett 9. Nick Bosa 10. Christian McCaffrey Note: This is clearly just for fun because I'm bored out of my mind in quarantine. Would be interesting to see how many players got picked before the first non-QB came off the board. For what it's worth, I do not believe Josh Allen would be among the first 32 picks. 2
GunnerBill Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, The Fiend said: You really think Allen, Murray, Darnold, Mayfield, and Minshew would all be taken before Goff? BTW, SI recently ranked Minshew dead last: https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/04/10/ranking-ever-team-quarterback-situation I don't. I think Goff goes right around where Wentz goes. And I'd take Dak before either of them. Edited April 13, 2020 by GunnerBill 2
BillsShredder83 Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Logic said: We should do this! Sign me up for this kinda draft on here please!!!! Sounds fun 1
BillsShredder83 Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Logic said: My mock top 10 picks if the NFL started from scratch tomorrow (I took age into account, because these teams are starting from scratch, so old dudes seem like bad picks): 1. Patrick Mahomes 2. Deshaun Watson 3. Russell Wilson (a bit old at 31, but figure we can get a good decade out of him) 4. Lamar Jackson 5. Carson Wentz 6. Kyler Murray 7. Aaron Donald 8. Myles Garrett 9. Nick Bosa 10. Christian McCaffrey Note: This is clearly just for fun because I'm bored out of my mind in quarantine. Would be interesting to see how many players got picked before the first non-QB came off the board. For what it's worth, I do not believe Josh Allen would be among the first 32 picks. Fun list I can't see CMC or any back or WR going anytime until late 1st rd though. My position rankings FOR MY 1ST PICK ONLY (Priority would change after my 1st pick): Qb Edge Lt Cb OL/DT WR RB 1
BarleyNY Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 Doing a draft from zero really wouldn’t tell you much about the QBs except who is proven and who is going with upside. The better question is: What kind of contract would you give each player, particularly Allen? That is a particularly good question since it’s one that’ll need answered in the real world soon. 1
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