Saxum Posted April 15, 2020 Posted April 15, 2020 What I am trying to do is something that does not fog up my glasses and I remember wearing a helmet on my scooter and not having issues. Asking me to wear eye protection (googles) and a face mask is not happening.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 15, 2020 Posted April 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, Limeaid said: What I am trying to do is something that does not fog up my glasses and I remember wearing a helmet on my scooter and not having issues. Asking me to wear eye protection (googles) and a face mask is not happening. Make sure you have a mask that has something to fit it tightly against your nose - if it's a folded bandana, place about a 5" piece of 16 gauge wire, a doubled pipe cleaner, or even a heavy-duty folding tie (twist tie too heavy to twist) along the top edge. If it's a mask, slide it between the layers and stitch in place. Use that to shape the mask firmly over your nose about two fingers up from the end, and your cheeks next to your nose. If it's fitted reasonably snuggly, your glasses should not fog. If your glasses fog, it's a sign the mask doesn't fit well enough. You can actually achieve this with a no-sew mask made from a bandanna. 1 hour ago, The Dean said: Quick question. Now that they are recommending anyone out in public wear a mask, I thought that was (at least partially) to protect you from the airborne droplets left after someone coughed/sneezed. I understand (when they were suggesting people who were well leave the masks for others) the main use for the masks is/was to protect others. But aren't these homemade masks meant to protect you, as well? They will def. some protection, especially if they are equipped with some kind of filter material that has been shown to stop particulates - 2 layers of shop towels, electrostatic filter material, HEPA vacuum bag material - and if they make a reasonably close fit (some kind of piece that bends over the nose). If the mask pulls in to your face when you inhale and pushes out a bit when you exhale, you've got a pretty good fit and filtration is taking place. The key piece is the social compact though - the homemade masks are much better at stopping stuff from getting out, than at stopping particulates getting in. So if everyone wears a mask, you are protected by their masks and they are protected by yours. 1
The Dean Posted April 15, 2020 Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Make sure you have a mask that has something to fit it tightly against your nose - if it's a folded bandana, place about a 5" piece of 16 gauge wire, a doubled pipe cleaner, or even a heavy-duty folding tie (twist tie too heavy to twist) along the top edge. If it's a mask, slide it between the layers and stitch in place. Use that to shape the mask firmly over your nose about two fingers up from the end, and your cheeks next to your nose. If it's fitted reasonably snuggly, your glasses should not fog. If your glasses fog, it's a sign the mask doesn't fit well enough. You can actually achieve this with a no-sew mask made from a bandanna. They will def. some protection, especially if they are equipped with some kind of filter material that has been shown to stop particulates - 2 layers of shop towels, electrostatic filter material, HEPA vacuum bag material - and if they make a reasonably close fit (some kind of piece that bends over the nose). If the mask pulls in to your face when you inhale and pushes out a bit when you exhale, you've got a pretty good fit and filtration is taking place. The key piece is the social compact though - the homemade masks are much better at stopping stuff from getting out, than at stopping particulates getting in. So if everyone wears a mask, you are protected by their masks and they are protected by yours. Oh yes, I get that. Thanks. Edited April 15, 2020 by The Dean
JohnC Posted April 15, 2020 Posted April 15, 2020 On 4/11/2020 at 8:57 PM, Chandler#81 said: This guy is a ****head. 2
Augie Posted April 15, 2020 Posted April 15, 2020 49 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Make sure you have a mask that has something to fit it tightly against your nose - if it's a folded bandana, place about a 5" piece of 16 gauge wire, a doubled pipe cleaner, or even a heavy-duty folding tie (twist tie too heavy to twist) along the top edge. If it's a mask, slide it between the layers and stitch in place. Use that to shape the mask firmly over your nose about two fingers up from the end, and your cheeks next to your nose. If it's fitted reasonably snuggly, your glasses should not fog. If your glasses fog, it's a sign the mask doesn't fit well enough. You can actually achieve this with a no-sew mask made from a bandanna. They will def. some protection, especially if they are equipped with some kind of filter material that has been shown to stop particulates - 2 layers of shop towels, electrostatic filter material, HEPA vacuum bag material - and if they make a reasonably close fit (some kind of piece that bends over the nose). If the mask pulls in to your face when you inhale and pushes out a bit when you exhale, you've got a pretty good fit and filtration is taking place. The key piece is the social compact though - the homemade masks are much better at stopping stuff from getting out, than at stopping particulates getting in. So if everyone wears a mask, you are protected by their masks and they are protected by yours. Today was my first trip to the store with my new mask. Most people had them on, and I’d have felt badly if I didn’t. Partly for the other shoppers, but mostly for the cashiers. I know most of them by name as a ten year shopper at least 6 times a week. I owe that to them, and I admire their perseverance and positive attitudes. 4
Saxum Posted April 15, 2020 Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) My wife used to be a professional tailor. She made me a mask using three layers of shop towels wrapped in cloth (multiple layers). They do not fog up glasses like commercial ones but this is cut to fit. She also has a hat for me using two layers cellophane wrap used to wrap gifts for face shield. Ready for Wallmart shopping. Edited April 15, 2020 by Limeaid 2
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 16, 2020 Posted April 16, 2020 Short video on mask use/do's and don'ts The narrator's content is good but some of the background shots of people following the "DON'TS" of mask use are sometimes funny https://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/health-med-fit/coronavirus/video-how-to-properly-wear-a-mask/video_7ad8bbb2-1a69-57d7-ac74-77aff48d6627.html#utm_source=stltoday.com&utm_campaign=%2Fnewsletter-templates%2Fnight-watch&utm_medium=PostUp&utm_content=c5590820a663cb96ab50a2bdbd89f76bb26c24f7
BillsFan4 Posted April 16, 2020 Author Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) This is the Olson mask. Quote The Olson Mask Pattern was designed by medical professionals to be used when other surgical and N95 masks are not available. Here is step by step instructions, materials, etc: (this is for people who know how to sew (not me...)). https://www.avera.org/app/files/public/76443/Olson-Mask-with-Pattern.pdf Edited April 16, 2020 by BillsFan4
Fr. Jerk Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 I'm going to make one out of my Bills bandana, ya dig?
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, The Jerk said: I'm going to make one out of my Bills bandana, ya dig? I wish I had a mess of Bills bandanas, if we gotta mask up, might as well represent!
Fr. Jerk Posted April 17, 2020 Posted April 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I wish I had a mess of Bills bandanas, if we gotta mask up, might as well represent!
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 ...stopped at Walmart yesterday for my usual Saturday grocery shopping.......wandered into the Paint Dept as I needed a razor blade scraper.......there on the bottom shelf were two 5 packs of painter's masks......think I'd better play the Lotto...SMH.......... 2
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...stopped at Walmart yesterday for my usual Saturday grocery shopping.......wandered into the Paint Dept as I needed a razor blade scraper.......there on the bottom shelf were two 5 packs of painter's masks......think I'd better play the Lotto...SMH.......... Are you gonna keep 'em all or keep 1 per fam and call your local emergency room and first responders if they need donations?
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 16 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Are you gonna keep 'em all or keep 1 per fam and call your local emergency room and first responders if they need donations? ...as a widower living alone, I only need one for my weekly grocery trip and easily reused....my kids are all set....we have 200 construction workers in the field who are now required to wear them (NY).......our mask orders are either being redirected, delayed or notification that they will be short shipped...thus, the remaining nine will go to our employees..... 3
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 23, 2020 Posted April 23, 2020 Not a video, but very valuable. These ladies actually purchased a $2000 particle testing device from Grainger (a Portacount Pro) and set to work testing materials. Shop towels tested among the best. They then went to work testing mask designs. They have released their mask design, along with actual particle testing results. Please note that they are making masks to distribute to HCW, first responders, and essential workers. They are continuing to employ their workers to do this, and ask for donations to support the work Here is a link to their design:https://suayla.com/pages/suay-community-mask-coalition Here is their test data of their design: Here is an article about them: https://www.businessinsider.com/homemade-mask-using-hydro-knit-shop-towel-filters-better-2020-4?op=1 1
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