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A Compilation of Some of Josh's Bad? Throws

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  On 4/13/2020 at 12:12 AM, GunnerBill said:

 

 

To say he can be better than Big Ben is a big call. I am not willing to go that far. 

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I don't know that he will be, but he can be. He's one of the most physically gifted qbs I've seen.      

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C.Biscuit97
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You’re not serious are you?  Tom Freaking Brady just switched teams And got talked about being washed up.  It’s the nature of the position.   And Allen gets criticized because he has never b

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Cian Fahey is literally the last person I would listen to when it comes to any kind of player evaluation.    He’s simply the worst. 

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I get the OP's point, but........................   Why is Josh Allen the ONLY QB on earth who has EVERY throw scrutinized?

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  On 4/13/2020 at 12:58 AM, C.Biscuit97 said:

I think it’s more evidence of his not being the most accurate passer.  And it was in the MWC not the SEC.  I just don’t why some of you are so quick to dismiss all the statistics that show he isn’t the most accurate passer.  
 

I would love to see this board would judge him and Darnold if they switched teams.

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So what you’re saying about him on the Bills board is “nice” compared to if he wasn’t.  So then tell us what you really think because obviously you haven’t been fully honest (which some of us already knew anyway).

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  On 4/13/2020 at 3:56 AM, Shaw66 said:

I don't know that he will be, but he can be. He's one of the most physically gifted qbs I've seen.      

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Still too rich for me at this stage. Before I say he can be better than a sure fire first ballot hall of famer I still need to see more evidence on the field.

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  On 4/13/2020 at 12:58 AM, C.Biscuit97 said:

I think it’s more evidence of his not being the most accurate passer.  And it was in the MWC not the SEC.  I just don’t why some of you are so quick to dismiss all the statistics that show he isn’t the most accurate passer.  
 

I would love to see this board would judge him and Darnold if they switched teams.

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Because in the absence of facts and history they can only use ridicule.

 

No one is saying Allen can't improve, but you are right there are historical elements which point to issues. Fixable? Let's find out. I think a lot can be fixed if you make him a 2 read QB so his mechanics are simplified for 2 throws per snap.

 

My reasoning is simple: his athleticism would make it so he's more of a runner and uses that dimension to force a spy on him and with the right running game the field opens up like it does for Jackson. He's not Jackson, but he has the same benefits he could utilize. I think his last game in 2018 in Miami was the perfect combo for him.

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WOW !! Diggs ain't gonna help that any he's gonna have to have 1 hell of a catch radius to help Josh on some of those throws !! 

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I watched the whole season, i don't need to re-watch a worst of compilation.  Here's my thoughts on causes

 

He widens his base sometimes (especially on touch throws) and balls sail.  Just an uncomfortable way of throwing, and some of those little flare and swing passes to TEs and RBs have been out of reach.

Timing on deep balls is an issue as he always seemed to hesitate a little at the last second.  I also watched something that indicated that he was tilting his shoulders on throws which would cause trajectory issues.  

Timing is also an issue on short stuff, he'll whip it over on the hitch and the balls not where it needs to be.  Usually its low or out of bounds - like him and the receiver had a different thought on the leverage. He also has shown slower eyes on stuff over the middle and either pats the ball or hesitates and then tries to rifle it into a small window.  These will also be short sometimes.

 

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At :25 seconds arms of Chad Thomas #92 (I think) and Josh Allen have a meeting.  Evidence of bad Josh accuracy?

 

 

 

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Someone compiled this video as evidence of how horribly inaccurate Josh is.  Many of these are not what he said they are.

 

  On 4/18/2020 at 12:19 AM, TheyCallMeAndy said:

You could make this video for every single QB in the NFL. Brady had plenty, and I mean plenty, of "bad throws" this year. 

 

He didn't have 30 dropped passes either.

 

 

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  On 4/18/2020 at 12:39 AM, JESSEFEFFER said:

 

Someone compiled this video as evidence of how horribly inaccurate Josh is.  Many of these are not what he said they are.

 

 

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Just a moron pushing an agenda. Allen put some passes on the money this year.

Pro football reference counted 36 dropped passes in total. Insane. Knox had 10, Cole 5, Brown 4, Singletary 6. Just to name a few.

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  On 4/18/2020 at 12:47 AM, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Just a moron pushing an agenda. Allen put some passes on the money this year.

Pro football reference counted 36 dropped passes in total. Insane. Knox had 10, Cole 5, Brown 4, Singletary 6. Just to name a few.

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This person makes a statement that, for the second year in a row, Josh Allen is the least accurate QB in the NFL and its not close.  Then, in a supposed attempt to bolster his conclusion, he posts a hand picked (?) compilation of horribly errant Josh throws.  And when you watch them they might seem to be as he claimed and as some here in this thread agreed.   But, if you look closer at them, many are like these two above.   Cian Fahey is less accurate than Josh.

 

 

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  On 4/18/2020 at 12:05 AM, JESSEFEFFER said:

At 1:49 Cody loses leverage and is waltzed backward to step on Josh's plant foot.  Errant due to inaccuracy?

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So we should chalk that one up to poor protection?  OL let him down?

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I'm not going through all the pages on this thread but just want to say the op showed only bad. Josh is good.  Mojo.

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  On 4/18/2020 at 2:29 AM, Billl said:

So we should chalk that one up to poor protection?  OL let him down?

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Good question.  Cody's footwork is terrible on the play.  After the initial punch by the defender, Cody is knocked off balance, looses leverage and is bullrushed right into Josh.  The red shoes really help to highlight their placement.  At one point they are both at hash mark, perpendicular to the line of scrimmage.  That is a losing position and he never anchors.   Why all this happened I dont know.  Ford is a rookie?  Ford is not a RT?   The defender made a nice play?    Maybe the result an illegal headslap?   I can't tell on my phone"s screen.  

 

Anyways, the only thing that slows the rush is when Cody collides with Josh.

 

 

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