bradin cooks vs stefon Digs

[Buffalo_Stampede]

4 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

 

They're both smaller speed burners. Diggs has height, but he doesn't weigh much. Digss has also never played a full season, so not sure about the whole injury comparison.

So you're saying they're similar in size and speed? They're completely different types of WR's though. Diggs is a a precise route runner who also happens to be one of the best in traffic despite being 6'0 tall.  

[ngbills]

2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

When either Diggs or Thielen was not playing...

 

Diggs excelled.  Thielien wasn't as productive. 

 

For me, Diggs is more talented and the better player with Theilens production being helped a lot by Diggs drawing the better coverage.  This year, I would bet money that Diggs out produces Thielen assuming they play the same amount of games.  Dont get me wrong, I like Thielen a lot but he just isn't as good as Diggs in most key areas.  Diggs is a better route runner, has faster feet, better deep threat, and better at contested catches.  

 

Lets see about this:

 

In 2019 Thielen missed week 8-14. Diggs was putting up big number weeks 4-7. He had a few good games while Thielen was out but also 3 games with under 50 yards. So no Diggs was not better when Thielen was out. Thielen did not play a game with Diggs out in 2019.

 

In 2018 Thielen missed no games. Diggs missed one game. Thielen caught 4 for 22 and 1 TD. Nothing special in a 24-9 win in which Vikes threw 22 times. 

 

In 2017 Thielen missed no games. Diggs missed weeks 6 and 7. Thielen caught 9 for 96 and 5 for 41. Not a huge drop off. 

 

In 2016 Thielen missed no games. DIggs missed week 5, 12 and 17. Thielen caught 7 for 127 and 8 for 53. No drop off. Week 17 was 38-10 blow in final game. 

 

So there you have it. No proof of Diggs excelling. Partly because Thielen never missed action. Thielen performed as good with or without Diggs. 

 

[Cal]

It's easy to look back now. Beane did the right thing and got Diggs...but i would of rather had Cooks for a 2nd, but that may have not been on the table when Beane was working the trade. Diggs is slightly better

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, Cal said:

It's easy to look back now. Beane did the right thing and got Diggs...but i would of rather had Cooks for a 2nd, but that may have not been on the table when Beane was working the trade. Diggs is slightly better

Im sure Cooks for a 2nd was on the table all off season.

[JoPoy88]

44 minutes ago, Cal said:

It's easy to look back now. Beane did the right thing and got Diggs...but i would of rather had Cooks for a 2nd, but that may have not been on the table when Beane was working the trade. Diggs is slightly better

Even with his recent concussion issues? You’d rather have cooks. Huh. “Slightly better.” So, so uninformed it’s hilarious.

[NoSaint]

Ultimately, I’d say Hopkins was the deal I’d preferred and either of Diggs/cooks would make me happy (without having looked at cooks current contract)

 

diggs and our 2 compared to cooks and a 1st both make our roster much better 

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, ngbills said:

 

Lets see about this:

 

In 2019 Thielen missed week 8-14. Diggs was putting up big number weeks 4-7. He had a few good games while Thielen was out but also 3 games with under 50 yards. So no Diggs was not better when Thielen was out. Thielen did not play a game with Diggs out in 2019.

 

In 2018 Thielen missed no games. Diggs missed one game. Thielen caught 4 for 22 and 1 TD. Nothing special in a 24-9 win in which Vikes threw 22 times. 

 

In 2017 Thielen missed no games. Diggs missed weeks 6 and 7. Thielen caught 9 for 96 and 5 for 41. Not a huge drop off. 

 

In 2016 Thielen missed no games. DIggs missed week 5, 12 and 17. Thielen caught 7 for 127 and 8 for 53. No drop off. Week 17 was 38-10 blow in final game. 

 

So there you have it. No proof of Diggs excelling. Partly because Thielen never missed action. Thielen performed as good with or without Diggs. 

 

 

If you average out Diggs numbers without Theilen over a year then yardage wise it would be his best ever season. 

 

If you average out Theilen's numbers without Diggs over a full season it would be his worst 16 game output since 2016. 

 

But people should stop debating numbers. Pull up some all22 from Vikings games the past 3 years and pay attention to who more often than not DCs are trying to take away with double coverage. 

 

[umangatan]

A TOP YOUNG receiver in the league for half the cost per year and a first.............yes please!

[Don Otreply]

11 hours ago, BuffaloBillies said:

 

Stats from 2018/19 combined (what have you done for me lately)

 

Cooks: 122 Rec, 1,787 yrds, 7 TDs

Diggs:  165 Rec, 2,151 yrds, 15 TDs

 

Diff: 43 more catches, ~400 more yards, 8 more TDs

 

Not nearly identical. Actually, quite different.

 

Drops mic ? 

[34-78-83]

This is straight silliness. Cooks is a quick and stretch the field complimentary wr type who runs basically 2 or 3 types of routes. With him you are paying for his speed. Diggs is a complete and polished, stronger all-around primary wr type who runs the whole route tree and is a threat anywhere on the field. All you gotta do is watch both play. It’s simple. Doesn’t take a coach’s eye either.

[Cal]

4 hours ago, JoPoy88 said:

Even with his recent concussion issues? You’d rather have cooks. Huh. “Slightly better.” So, so uninformed it’s hilarious.

 

How is that not true? Look at the stats. I said Diggs is better but I'd rather have our 1st and Cooks 

[Augie]

Is it time to ask if the OP gets extra humor credit for getting NEITHER of the players names correct in the thread title?  

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, umang_a_desai said:

A TOP YOUNG receiver in the league for half the cost per year and a first.............yes please!

Such a simpleton take

[MAJBobby]

Guess the OP didn’t like the comments he got here. So he took the same concept to Bills Mafia Facebook page and is getting the same responses as he did here. ???????

[1ManRaid]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

Guess the OP didn’t like the comments he got here. So he took the same concept to Bills Mafia Facebook page and is getting the same responses as he did here. ???????

Oh please share.

 

*edit*

There's like 101 Facebook groups named Bills Mafia so you'll have to be more specific.

Edited April 11, 2020 by 1ManRaid

[umangatan]

On 4/10/2020 at 11:48 PM, John from Riverside said:

Such a simpleton take

Let's see...sustainable cap room with the contract and all the extensions we have coming up. A sure thing for a first and some late round picks vs a crapshoot in the draft or a receiver who in all likelyhood didnt want to be here and is vastly outperformed to the tune of 43 more catches, 400 more yards, 8 more TDs over the last 2 years by Diggs? Seems pretty simple to me...Or maybe I should have made it simpler for you?

[BillsFan2313]

On 4/10/2020 at 10:34 AM, dbfla10 said:

"BY FAR" is a stretch. Look at their stats, they are nearly identical... I agree I like Diggs better, but the Bills definitely over paid.

 

Brandin Cooks QBs:

Drew Brees

Tom Brady

Jared Goff

Now DeShaun Watson

 

Stefon Diggs QBs:

Teddy Bridgewater

Case Keenum

Kirk Cousins

Now Josh Allen

 

You don't think if Diggs played with Brees and Brady, and one of the greatest offenses of all time with the Rams, his numbers wouldn't be better than Cooks?

 

Why does he keep being traded?

 

[Orlando Buffalo]

The short version is Cooks is a great second reciever and therefore is worth a second, Diggs is a legit #1 and therefore cost a first. The fact Diggs is under a reasonable contract for 4 years is likely why we had to throw in the extra picks.

[John from Riverside]

3 hours ago, umang_a_desai said:

Let's see...sustainable cap room with the contract and all the extensions we have coming up. A sure thing for a first and some late round picks vs a crapshoot in the draft or a receiver who in all likelyhood didnt want to be here and is vastly outperformed to the tune of 43 more catches, 400 more yards, 8 more TDs over the last 2 years by Diggs? Seems pretty simple to me...Or maybe I should have made it simpler for you?

You know....I think I missread your post now that I look at it.....I thought you were wanting concussion prone Cooks....I apologize

[ColoradoBills]

On 4/10/2020 at 2:30 PM, BullBuchanan said:

They're very similar players with very similar production. I love Diggs the player, but I feel like his trade value should have been a lot closer to that of Cooks. They've been trying to move him for a while now, and Beane paid the maximum. I wonder where Minnesota started the negotiation if we ended up having to pay as much as we did.

 

First the OP's insinuation that Diggs and Cooks are essentially the same WR in the 2020 off season is not even worth commenting on.

I would about guarantee any GM would rather have Diggs.

 

What the Vikings wanted for Diggs will probably never be known but I would imagine they wanted a mid round 1st for him which seems fair.

I'm sure Beane threw in the added picks to align his #22 pick with that probable fact.

 

This years 5th round pick and the 6th for 7th swap probably wouldn't have got him to pick #20.  I hope any Bills fan would not have Beane nix the trade

over that!  That extra 5th and the swap would maybe at best net him 1 depth player.

 

If there was any "over payment" for Diggs it would only have to be discussed as to the 2021 4th.  Personally it would of been great if instead

of the 4th it was a 6th or 5th (which was my initial reaction).  I will wait to see if Beane will get that pick back somehow before

next years draft.  In fact I'm counting on it.  Once again I would not kill the trade over that.

 

That being said even using next years 4th as a bottom of the 4th value the whole trade worked out to a 1st round pick #18-19.

So in this mental exercise the Las Vegas Raiders could of had Diggs for their 1st alone.