Deranged Rhino Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 See it yet? It works, they know / knew it works, but they had to deny it. Lie about it. Time to wake up. 4 2
Doc Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: See it yet? It works, they know / knew it works, but they had to deny it. Lie about it. Time to wake up. Yup. They just wanted people to die so it would make Trump look bad. I'm seeing a new PCP next month. I used to work with him when he did that and GI procedures. Great guy. But I'm going to ask him about HCQ and if he says it's BS, I'll be done with him quick. 4
B-Man Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 David Burge@iowahawkblog For all the people in my TL who spent a week screaming HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE WILL MAKE YOU DIE, icymihttps://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/mysterious-company-s-coronavirus-papers-top-medical-journals-may-be-unraveling A mysterious company’s coronavirus papers in top medical journals may be unraveling Scientists and journals express concern over influential studies of COVID-19 patient data that evaluated possible treatments such as hydroxychloroquine sciencemag.org 12:12 PM - Jun 3, 2020 David Burge@iowahawkblog The Cliff Notes: there is a little known medical data analytics company named Surgisphere in Chicago that purportedly gathered 100k cases of COVID patients treated with HQC. /1 David Burge@iowahawkblog Surgisphere is the sole source of the HQC study that appeared in the blue ribbon, peer reviewed medical journal The Lancet. They also provided data another COVID study that appeared in New England Journal of Medicine. /2 David Burge@iowahawkblog Surgisphere claimed to have data sharing agreements with hundreds of hospitals around the US and the world, despite having, it appears, only 5 employees, only one of whom has any medical background. /3 David Burge@iowahawkblog Two of the other employees, according to the Guardian, include a science fiction writer and a male model for hire. /4 David Burge@iowahawkblog How this ragtag Fab Five let's-put-on-an-international-medical-data-gathering-show was able to sign up data sharing contracts with hundreds of hospitals around the world is a bit of a mystery, but I'd be happy to hear the explanation. /5 David Burge@iowahawkblog Apparently, the peer reviewers at The Lancet and NEJM didn't share my curiosity about this, before putting their imprimatur on studies that relied solely on Surgisphere data. You know, that one that proved HQC will make you DIE /6 David Burge@iowahawkblog But don't worry, the Lancet and NEJM are out there busily issuing concerns and checking things and whatnot, now that their peer reviewers have been peer reviewed. /7 David Burge@iowahawkblog Does HQC kill COVID patients? Hell if I know. Does it make COVID patients better? Hell if I know. Will I trust The Lancet or NEJM when they finally issue conclusions on these questions? Hell if I know. /8 110 12:47 PM - Jun 3, 2020 2
Reality Check Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 57 minutes ago, Doc said: Yup. They just wanted people to die so it would make Trump look bad. I'm seeing a new PCP next month. I used to work with him when he did that and GI procedures. Great guy. But I'm going to ask him about HCQ and if he says it's BS, I'll be done with him quick. I hope he us the right PCP for you. Good doctors are priceless. 1
Cinga Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 7 hours ago, Reality Check said: Sorry, but I don't trust talking Gummi Bears. I assure you, they are certainly okay if they are low in THC... 1
Reality Check Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Magox said: Well.....What'da'ya'know Wait a minute. You mean to tell me the WHO is anti-science? Now I don't know who to blindly trust.
BillStime Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Magox said: Well.....What'da'ya'know That’s a real official Twitter handle there - You think Trump probably runs it himself?
Cinga Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 Come on folks. We all know why their dragging their feet with Hydroxychoroquine. PRICE!!!!!!!!!!! At 60 cents a pop, no one in pharma or probably the medical field wants such a cheap cure. However, if they can just convince people, even against what studies suggest, that remdesivir is the answer, well that could net over 4 thousand per patient. https://www.fiercepharma.com/marketing/gilead-s-covid-19-therapy-remdesivir-worth-4-460-per-course-says-pricing-watchdog 1 2 1
B-Man Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: That’s a real official Twitter handle there - You think Trump probably runs it himself? Textbook response There are links to the Reuters story, links to the WHO announcement, But BillZtime BillStime cannot see, or comprehend, past the Twitter name. 4
BillStime Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: Textbook response There are links to the Reuters story, links to the WHO announcement, But BillZtime BillStime cannot see, or comprehend, past the Twitter name. I knew you would respond - you make @Deranged Rhino proud. good dog
Doc Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 Man. My list of who not to listen to anymore just keeps getting longer and longer. 1 2
BillStime Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Man. My list of who not to listen to anymore just keeps getting longer and longer.
Doc Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: You were on the list awhile ago. And BTW, C3 would say you're fat. I wouldn't stoop that low.
Magox Posted June 3, 2020 Author Posted June 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, B-Man said: Textbook response There are links to the Reuters story, links to the WHO announcement, But BillZtime BillStime cannot see, or comprehend, past the Twitter name. I've got that clown blocked. Is that what he said? lol 2 1
Koko78 Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Magox said: Well.....What'da'ya'know Wha...? It's almost like the WHO is more interested in playing politics than giving a flying crap about providing actual medical advice.
Doc Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: Does it work yet? It's been working. Just ask Amy. 1
BillStime Posted June 3, 2020 Posted June 3, 2020 “Hydroxychloroquine did not prevent healthy people exposed to covid-19 from getting the disease caused by the coronavirus.” Hydroxychloroquine, a drug promoted by Trump, failed to prevent healthy people from getting covid-19 in trial 1
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