Should absentee ballots be illegal?

[notwoz]

1 hour ago, Koko78 said:

 

Yeah, it's not like they're out of state doing their jobs or anything...

 

Totally the same thing as people voting by mail from home. Near their polling place. Where they can just go to vote.

Yeah. Let me know when that fat f**ktard starts doing his job.

[Deranged Rhino]

2 minutes ago, notwoz said:

Yeah. Let me know when that fat f**ktard starts doing his job.

[Koko78]

57 minutes ago, notwoz said:

Yeah. Let me know when that fat f**ktard starts doing his job.

 

I'll be sure to update your NPC programming.

[3rdnlng]

Did someone turn the lights on in a darkroom full of cockroaches?

[Tiberius]

New Hampshire’s Republican Gov. Chris Sununu changed his tune on absentee voting and said on Thursday that his state will “allow voters to cast mail-in ballots in the November general election if the coronavirus is still a factor this fall,” 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

14 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

Funny how all the sources who got every bit of the Russian story wrong (and won awards for it) are so

eager to push mail in voting. 
 

Should tell you everything you need to know about the “why now” of it all. 

 

Could say the same thing about this... pandemic. I don't trust these people at all.

[Tiberius]

Ohio’s Republican Gov. Mike DeWine is also a proponent of voting by mail. He said regarding the practice at a news conference on Wednesday, “You know, we postponed the election, or we expanded the election basically, because we didn’t think it was safe, but yes, it’s safe for people to vote in Ohio and we’re asking them to do that.” The office of the Republican state secretary of state in a written statement argued:

Though we are preparing for every possible scenario, our expectation and hope is that we’ll be able to have a normal election in November. That said, it’s fortunate that Ohio has a long history of running secure elections, and that includes decades of voting by mail. From voter-specific ballot tracking and frequently maintained voter rolls to security measures at county boards of elections where ballots are handled and stored by a bipartisan team of election officials, Ohioans can be confident that their vote-by-mail ballots are as safe and secure as the votes cast on Election Day.

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

Why is 44 so into it? 

 

That should be a HUGE red warning light for anyone with half a brain. 

(The enemy of my enemy is my friend)

[Numark3]

Can you imagine being a republican and being scared of everything?

 

Voting fraud, immigrants, conspiracies, abortions, gays getting married, the deep state, people saying “happy holidays” instead of “merry xmas”

 

I’d be ashamed to vote right and be lumped in with such pussies.  
 

 

Edited April 11, 2020 by Crayola64

[3rdnlng]

16 minutes ago, Crayola64 said:

Can you imagine being a republican and being scared of everything?

 

Voting fraud, immigrants, conspiracies, abortions, gays getting married, the deep state, people saying “happy holidays” instead of “merry xmas”

 

I’d be ashamed to vote right and be lumped in with such pussies.  
 

 

Can't hear you. After all, that 3rd chair is a long way away. 

[Numark3]

2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Can't hear you. After all, that 3rd chair is a long way away. 

And lawyers!  Add it to the list 

[B-Man]

"Why did Gov. Tony Evers, a Wisconsin Democrat, change his mind by trying to postpone the Wisconsin State Supreme Court election this week..."

 

"... when both he and Vice President Joe Biden had just recently said that the voting could proceed?

 

It's really simple. Republican areas in the state had turned in many more absentee ballots than Democratic areas.

 

This was shocking, because most people had assumed the race between Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders would give Democrats a huge turnout edge. That's when Evers panicked.

 

To cancel an election the day before the vote — after your state party realizes it might be getting outvoted in absentees — is a pretty cynical move...

 

If Evers had canceled the voting earlier, before seeing how many absentee ballots came in from Republican areas, this would not be an issue. But he wanted to wait until the eleventh hour...."

 

Writes John Pudner in The Washington Examiner. 

 

 

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[3rdnlng]

4 minutes ago, B-Man said:

"Why did Gov. Tony Evers, a Wisconsin Democrat, change his mind by trying to postpone the Wisconsin State Supreme Court election this week..."

 

"... when both he and Vice President Joe Biden had just recently said that the voting could proceed?

 

It's really simple. Republican areas in the state had turned in many more absentee ballots than Democratic areas.

 

This was shocking, because most people had assumed the race between Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders would give Democrats a huge turnout edge. That's when Evers panicked.

 

To cancel an election the day before the vote — after your state party realizes it might be getting outvoted in absentees — is a pretty cynical move...

 

If Evers had canceled the voting earlier, before seeing how many absentee ballots came in from Republican areas, this would not be an issue. But he wanted to wait until the eleventh hour...."

 

Writes John Pudner in The Washington Examiner. 

 

 

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Almost as bad as what the abortionist/governor of VA did. 

[B-Man]

Obama Exploits Pandemic to Push for Mail-in Voting

 

FTA:

 

The Democrats love the idea of voting by mail because it becomes much easier to steal an election. Add to that the nationwide legalization of ballot harvesting, and it would be the end of the Republican Party.

 

In 2016, ballot harvesting was legalized in California. A party volunteer collects the paper ballots (absentee ballots) from voters who are unable or do not wish to vote in person and then delivers these ballots to a precinct. The opportunity to commit fraud with this practice is immense. In 2018, Democrats flipped several House seats in what had once been the Republican stronghold of Orange County from red to blue. Then-House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) said “what happened in California defies logic.”

 

The Federalist reported:

In Orange County, an estimated 250,000 harvested ballots were reportedly dropped off on Election Day alone. County Republican Chairman Fred Whitaker claimed the 2016 law “directly caused the switch from being ahead on election night to losing two weeks later.”

One interaction caught by a Santa Clarita family’s doorbell camera suggested how harvesting can work in practice. A harvester, identifying herself as Lulu, asks for Brandi, and says she is there to collect her ballot, explaining that there is “this new service, but only to, like, people who are supporting the Democratic Party.”

 

Tom Fitton, the founder and president of Judicial Watch, tweeted that the “Left’s “vote by mail” abuse would blow up clean elections in November. The Pelosi/Clinton scheme would result in sending ballots to zombie voters, the end of voter id, and wide scale voter intimidation.”

 

Fitton has just filed a lawsuit against the state of North Carolina because they have over one million inactive voters on their rolls. These are precisely the “voters” whose “mail-in ballots” would be collected and submitted in November if Democrats had their way.

 

That’s why Democrats’ calls for voting by mail have grown louder. Although we are still seven months out from November, Democrats are using the coronavirus as their ostensible reason why the 2020 election must be conducted by mail. Pelosi told CNN this week she planned (to try) to include a vote-by-mail provision in the next stimulus bill.

 

 

[B-Man]

 

He only went all over the world monitoring elections.............what does he know.

 

 

IT’S ALL ABOUT FRAUD: 

 

Heed Jimmy Carter on the Danger of Mail-In Voting: ‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.’

 

Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” That quote isn’t from President Trump, who criticized mail-in voting this week after Wisconsin Democrats tried and failed to change an election at the last minute into an exclusively mail-in affair. It’s the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III.

 

Concerns about vote-buying have a long history in the U.S. They helped drive the move to the secret ballot, which U.S. states adopted between 1888 and 1950. Secret ballots made it harder for vote buyers to monitor which candidates sellers actually voted for. Vote-buying had been pervasive; my research with Larry Kenny at the University of Florida has found that voter turnout fell by about 8% to 12% after states adopted the secret ballot.

 

You wouldn’t know any of this listening to the media outcry over Mr. Trump’s remarks. “There is a lot of dishonesty going on with mail-in voting,” the president said Tuesday. In response, a CNN “fact check” declares that Mr. Trump “opened a new front in his campaign of lies about voter fraud.” A New York Times headline asserts: “Trump Is Pushing a False Argument on Vote-by-Mail Fraud.” Both claim that voter fraud is essentially nonexistent. The Carter-Baker report found otherwise.

 

Intimidation and vote buying were key concerns of the commission: “Citizens who vote at home, at nursing homes, at the workplace, or in church are more susceptible to pressure, overt and subtle, or to intimidation. Vote buying schemes are far more difficult to detect when citizens vote by mail.” The report provides examples, such as the 1997 Miami mayoral election that resulted in 36 arrests for absentee-ballot fraud. The election had to be rerun, and the result was reversed.

 

There are more recent cases, too. In 2017 an investigation of a Dallas City Council election found some 700 fraudulent mail-in ballots signed by the same witness using a fake name. The discovery left two council races in limbo, and the fraud was much larger than the vote differential in one of those races. The case resulted in a criminal conviction. . . .

 

It is often claimed that impossibly large numbers of people live at the same address. In 2016, 83 registered voters in San Pedro, Calif., received absentee ballots at the same small two-bedroom apartment. Prosecutors rarely pursue this type of case.

 

Mail-in voting is a throwback to the dark old days of vote-buying and fraud. Because of this, many countries don’t allow absentee ballots for citizens living in their country, including Norway and Mexico. Americans deserve a more trustworthy system.

 

 

 

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Indeed.

 Po

[BillStime]

Literally the only way GOPigs can win is by cheating and gerrymandering. 
 

Trump Wants 50 Wisconsins on Election Day

 

Just remember pigs - every waive crashes

[3rdnlng]

9 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Literally the only way GOPigs can win is by cheating and gerrymandering. 
 

Trump Wants 50 Wisconsins on Election Day

 

Just remember pigs - every waive crashes

.

[BillStime]

Oh you got me tough guy 

[Capco]

On 4/10/2020 at 5:14 PM, B-Man said:

 

Gov. Andrew Cuomo, just like President Trump, has some issues with voting by mail and he’s a big fan of showing ID to vote.

 

From the NYT’s Thomas Kaplan:

 

 

 

Despite Cuomo's reference to "showing ID," New York generally does not require voters to show ID.

 

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As long as there are free ID's available in all 50 states for those in extreme poverty, then I'm totally cool with voter IDs as a requirement.  

 

Money shouldn't be an obstacle to voting, in ANY amount.  That's also why election day should be a national holiday.  

Edited April 12, 2020 by Capco

[Koko78]

55 minutes ago, Capco said:

 

As long as there are free ID's available in all 50 states for those in extreme poverty, then I'm totally cool with voter IDs as a requirement.  

 

Money shouldn't be an obstacle to voting, in ANY amount.  That's also why election day should be a national holiday.  

 

What the MSM forgets to tell everyone is that states that introduce voter ID laws also provide free IDs. Of course they can't tell you things like that, it would ruin the RACISM!!!!!! narrative.