Warren Zevon Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 According to some (although Trump's voter fraud commission failed to find any evidence of voter fraud) mail in ballots are rampant with fraud. Should absentee ballots then be made illegal?
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 “Representative government cannot express the will of the mass of the people, because there is no mass of the people; The People is a fiction, like The State. You cannot get a Will of the Mass, even among a dozen persons who all want to go on a picnic. The only human mass with a common will is a mob, and that will is a temporary insanity. In actual fact, the population of a country is a multitude of diverse human beings with an infinite variety of purposes and desires and fluctuating wills.” Rose Wilder Lane 2
RochesterRob Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: According to some (although Trump's voter fraud commission failed to find any evidence of voter fraud) mail in ballots are rampant with fraud. Should absentee ballots then be made illegal? You are being intellectually dishonest. Absentee ballots amount to 1 out of 1000 potential voters so they can be very easily verified by any group having a concern. A municipality that has 100,000 voters will have extreme difficulty validating all ballots cast in a 100 percent mail in process in a timely manner. Edited April 8, 2020 by RochesterRob 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 Yes. Yes they should, with ONE exception: Active duty military personnel. Everyone else should get to a polling place or get stuffed. 1
B-Man Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 “Even voting for the right is doing nothing for it. It is only expressing to men feebly your desire that it should prevail. A wise man will not leave the right to the mercy of chance, nor wish it to prevail through the power of the majority. There is but little virtue in the action of masses of men.”― Henry David Thoreau, Civil Disobedience and Other Essays 1
Warren Zevon Posted April 8, 2020 Author Posted April 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: You are being intellectually dishonest. Absentee ballots amount to 1 out of 1000 potential voters so they can be very easily verified by any group having a concern. A municipality that has 100,000 voters will have extreme difficulty validating all ballots cast in a 100 percent mail in process in a timely manner. In the 2016 presidential election 17.7% of voters voted absentee and another 5.9% voted by mail. 23.6% of voters mailed in their ballot. https://www.eac.gov/documents/2017/10/17/eavs-deep-dive-early-absentee-and-mail-voting-data-statutory-overview Interesting chart... State Total Votes Total votes Early, Absentee, or by mail/That % Arizona 2,722,660 2,042,084 75.0% Arkansas 1,048,513 627,411 59.8% California 14,610,494 8,592,587 58.8% Colorado 2,884,199 2,722,919 94.4% Florida 9,613,669 6,555,802 68.2% Georgia 4,147,181 2,426,261 58.5% Hawaii 437,697 229,562 52.4% Montana 516,901 333,666 64.6% Nevada 1,128,492 781,788 69.3% New Mexico 804,073 541,730 67.4% North Carolina 4,690,195 3,055,960 65.2% Oregon 2,051,452 2,051,452 100.0% Tennessee 2,545,271 1,679,087 66.0% Texas 8,701,152 5,452,437 62.7% Utah 1,114,567 772,888 69.3% Washington 3,363,452 3,287,705 97.7%
RochesterRob Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Gary Busey said: In the 2016 presidential election 17.7% of voters voted absentee and another 5.9% voted by mail. 23.6% of voters mailed in their ballot. https://www.eac.gov/documents/2017/10/17/eavs-deep-dive-early-absentee-and-mail-voting-data-statutory-overview Hillary's plurality of 3M voters? She always talked about them as though they were in the bag. The bag of the local Democratic elections commissioner. Interesting that we are in the season of Lent and you talk like a New Testament Pharisee.
Warren Zevon Posted April 8, 2020 Author Posted April 8, 2020 Can't go anywhere with you without talking about a Clinton. You're like a ***** DC Tom clone 1
B-Man Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: Can't go anywhere with you without talking about a Clinton. You're like a ***** DC Tom clone Ummmmm. YOU posted the 2016 presidential voting to try (and failing) to make a point. I believe Hillary Clinton ran then. You are so blinded. . 1
Tiberius Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 35 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: “Representative government cannot express the will of the mass of the people, because there is no mass of the people; The People is a fiction, like The State. You cannot get a Will of the Mass, even among a dozen persons who all want to go on a picnic. The only human mass with a common will is a mob, and that will is a temporary insanity. In actual fact, the population of a country is a multitude of diverse human beings with an infinite variety of purposes and desires and fluctuating wills.” Rose Wilder Lane Yup, thats why the people vote for representatives so issues can be compromised on.
RochesterRob Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: Can't go anywhere with you without talking about a Clinton. You're like a ***** DC Tom clone Nice avatar of your dad. I could see that expression by him when you : 1. Were held back after kindergarten. 2. Failed fourth grade. 3. Got a 10 (out of 100) on your NYS Algebra Regents exam. 4. Got declined for enrollment by ECC. .... .... .... 8. Registered as a communist. 9. Read your contributions here.
Tiberius Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, RochesterRob said: Nice avatar of your dad. I could see that expression by him when you : 1. Were held back after kindergarten. 2. Failed fourth grade. 3. Got a 10 (out of 100) on your NYS Algebra Regents exam. 4. Got declined for enrollment by ECC. .... .... .... 8. Registered as a communist. 9. Read your contributions here. What an idiot you are. One of the worst posters here 1
B-Man Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 Mail-In Ballots Make Voter Fraud Easy. I Know Because I Did It. . 1 3
Tiberius Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, B-Man said: Mail-In Ballots Make Voter Fraud Easy. I Know Because I Did It. . Trump mailed in his ballot
B-Man Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 Remember when you celebrated this a year or so ago ? Quote Last year, a political operative working for North Carolina Republican congressional candidate Mark Harris was charged with fraud for directing a group of people to fill out as many as one thousand absentee ballot requests on behalf of voters — most of whom were unaware the ballots were being requested. These people then collected the ballots and filled them out themselves. Harris defeated Democrat Dan McCready by just 905 votes and, though it was never shown that the number of tainted ballots was enough to account for Harris’s win, the election results were thrown out and a new election was held. (Republican Dan Bishop beat McCready in a special election by 2,400 votes.) Harris was rightly punished for abusing mail-in ballots, Now, you act like it can't be done. Some consistency on the Left would be nice.......................................................I know, I know. ? . 1
Tiberius Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Remember when you celebrated this a year or so ago ? Harris was rightly punished for abusing mail-in ballots, Now, you act like it can't be done. Some consistency on the Left would be nice.......................................................I know, I know. ? . That's like saying we should close the banks because there are bank robbers. No, punish the guilty but let the vast majority of honest mail in ballotsers vote! Both sides will be wary of this trick and will be looking for it 2
Warren Zevon Posted April 8, 2020 Author Posted April 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, B-Man said: Remember when you celebrated this a year or so ago ? Harris was rightly punished for abusing mail-in ballots, Now, you act like it can't be done. Some consistency on the Left would be nice.......................................................I know, I know. ? . It was caught and yes, Harris was rightly punished. The system worked. This one act of fraud is not enough for me to want to make absentee voting illegal. 2
Warren Zevon Posted April 8, 2020 Author Posted April 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, LeviF91 said: Not all absentee ballots are mailed in. True. I'd be interested in the breakdown if you can find it. I bet 90+% are mailed
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