Tipster19 Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) Don’t get comfortable, here comes Belichick! Nothing is worse than false confidence/security. If anyone thinks that Belichick is just gonna roll over than they got another thing coming. Newton and Winston, similar abilities and both available. I’m not buying the Stidham talk, expect Belichick to reinvent that offense. Nobody loves veterans that want to prove something more than Belichick. Edited April 8, 2020 by Tipster19 3
BuffaloBills1998 Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tipster19 said: Don’t get comfortable, here comes Belichick! Nothing is than false confidence/security. If anyone thinks that Belichick is just gonna roll over thanksgiving they got another thing coming. Newton and Winston, similar abilities and both available. I’m not buying the Stidham talk, expect Belichick to reinvent that offense. Nobody loves veterans that want to prove something more than Belichick. He doesn’t have any cap room to sign either QB. 5 3
MJS Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 Belichick wants a guy to come in and run the system. The system is short to intermediate precise throws and taking care of the football. Don't take risks, just take what the defense gives you. Don't try to do too much. Does that sound anything like Newton or Winston? They are two square pegs that do not fit into the round hole of NE's offense. 11
uticaclub Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 No matter who Belichick has at QB, I would still pick them to win the division. Cam would be our worse case scenario if can return to his MVP. 6 3
H2o Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, MJS said: Belichick wants a guy to come in and run the system. The system is short to intermediate precise throws and taking care of the football. Don't take risks, just take what the defense gives you. Don't try to do too much. Does that sound anything like Newton or Winston? They are two square pegs that do not fit into the round hole of NE's offense. My money is on the Pats ending up with Eason or Fromm. 4
ProcessAccepted Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, uticaclub said: No matter who Belichick has at QB, I would still pick them to win the division. Cam would be our worse case scenario if can return to his MVP. There is no way that the hoodie will be sharing a podium with the guy in the scarf. No way. He's looking for someone who will fold in to the system like an Andy Dalton type player 3
aristocrat Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 the pats have zero cap space. you can always make some space but these guys would need to come cheap
ProcessAccepted Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, H2o said: My money is on the Pats ending up with Eason or Fromm. I don't think it'll be Fromm.
Tipster19 Posted April 8, 2020 Author Posted April 8, 2020 Brady goes to Tampa and Belichick let’s him. Egos couldn’t be involved here, right?? I would think so. Belichick is going to reinvent that team, that’s what he does! The carries a 3/4 and a 4/3 hybrid defense. He went from a high octane passing attack when they had Moss and then he pulls out of his ass a multi TE offense with Gronk and Hernandez. Like any good info commercial like me que in “but wait, there’s more!”. When that offense ran it’s course he then goes to a platoon of RBs that catch out of the backfield and also incorporated the short to intermediate passing game and sprinkles in a couple of long balls just to keep you off balance. Anyone who thinks this guy is gonna stand pat just hasn’t watch him enough throughout the years. 4
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 Depends on their draft. If they draft oline - i could see them moving Thuney for someone like dalton + picks. Move Sanu for late round pick or cut him. Also if they move out of the first they save some cap space as well. Other than that they're really limited on what they can do.
Mat68 Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 In the modern NFL good luck winning and finding a traditional drop back Qb. I think Cam woukd make alot of sense. Mcdaniels is too smart of an offensive mind to not take full adavantage of a Qb like Newton. In moat break ups you go for the opposite of what you had. I think NE goes athletic at the position. Or they roll Stidham and Hoyer and Bill is shown to be HC mastermind or positions himself for Lawrence or Feilds. 1
GunnerBill Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 In what way are Cam and Winston similar abilities? They are nothing alike. 8 2
Bill from NYC Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 29 minutes ago, MJS said: Belichick wants a guy to come in and run the system. The system is short to intermediate precise throws and taking care of the football. Don't take risks, just take what the defense gives you. Don't try to do too much. Does that sound anything like Newton or Winston? They are two square pegs that do not fit into the round hole of NE's offense. Good point and let me add that Winston and BB would never, ever get along imo. Did you see Winston on that pre-season series? He was so freaking annoying I had to turn it off. I don't think that BB would, or even could put up with Winston and his endless motor mouth under any conditions. 1
GunnerBill Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, MJS said: Belichick wants a guy to come in and run the system. The system is short to intermediate precise throws and taking care of the football. Don't take risks, just take what the defense gives you. Don't try to do too much. Does that sound anything like Newton or Winston? They are two square pegs that do not fit into the round hole of NE's offense. Agree with this. While they are very different neither is a great fit for the type of E-P scheme Belichick wants to run. I still say the best fit and the most sensible outcome is a Dalton trade. Because of the way his contract is constructed an extension is reasonably easy to do that brings his cap hit down but gives him some guarantees. I still think ultimately Cincy trades him too. No way he stays there as a backup. They likely want Burrow in the building and signed on the dotted line before it happens though. Edited April 8, 2020 by GunnerBill 4
CBD Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 Could trade Thuney for a high-ish pick. Then use the room to sign a QB. 1
RyanC883 Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 52 minutes ago, H2o said: My money is on the Pats ending up with Eason or Fromm. Fromm would be perfect for that system, IMO. Someone like the Steelers, Saints, Chargers, etc. take him first!
Clemfield2622 Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 No way he touches either guy with a 10 foot pole.
Doc Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, CBD said: Could trade Thuney for a high-ish pick. Then use the room to sign a QB. No one's trading a top pick and paying Thuney $15M/year. And with Dante Scarnecchia now gone, they'll need to keep as many good OL as possible. As for Newton and Winston, neither can run the Cheaters' system and they still don't have WR's.
GunnerBill Posted April 8, 2020 Posted April 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Doc said: No one's trading a top pick and paying Thuney $15M/year. And with Dante Scarnecchia now gone, they'll need to keep as many good OL as possible. If you could trade and extend though very easy to bring that cap hit down. I agree they will need to keep a good Oline but I think they have talent there.
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