Aiyuk undergoes surgery: could he fall to us?

[Hampton Josh fan]

27 minutes ago, Billl said:

Guys like Duke become insurance salesmen from better receiving corps.

Good thing Sanders dropped out of the Presidential race, he would have wiped out the insurance industry. Duke is not quitting on football any time soon. My gut feeling is that he plays this year for an NFL team.

[Formerly Allan in MD]

4 hours ago, Charles Romes said:

Duke looked like a 5-6 in the playoff game when we needed him to be 3. 

Perhaps if he had played some during the season it would have made a difference.

[3rdand12]

7 hours ago, thebandit27 said:

That would be spectacular. I’d be shocked if he gets by the Packers though.

Saw this in the news today PFT. and 1st thought was  ?

Could he ?

 drop enough to make it easier for him to become a Bills player ?

1 hour ago, Hampton Josh fan said:

I would go Claypool , and that would be pretty formidable. If Knox developed, wow.

Have a buddy at work who would do handstands if Bills grabbed Claypool.
But i do not see it in the stars : (

1 hour ago, Troll Toll said:

One of my absolute favorite movies!

One of my favorite scenes in one of my favorite movies.

Legendary.

1 hour ago, Billl said:

Guys like Duke become insurance salesmen from better receiving corps.

jury is out still. imo
and kinda cold for one of our own

Edited April 8, 2020 by 3rdand12

[3rdand12]

1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said:

There’s definitely room for a Reagor, Aiyuk, Shenault, Hamler type guy to see the field a lot this season.  I’d prefer one of those guys in the 2nd and a downhill physical RB like Moss in the 3rd.  

damn.

[Bangarang]

1 hour ago, Binghamton Beast said:

Yeah, seriously. Nice emoji.

Why would the amount of targets he had in 1 game matter?

[Mat68]

1 hour ago, Binghamton Beast said:

Is Williams a fringe NFL player? I seem to remember him having the most targets in our last playoff game.

Maybe just maybe he was single covered the most often.  His lack seperation is real.

[Meatloaf63]

9 hours ago, MJS said:

Duke went through waivers last year and nobody picked him up. Foster did his first year and nobody picked him up. McKenzie was just cut and nobody picked him up. I don't see evidence that those three are considered to be a solid "back end".

 

I like McKenzie for his special teams ability and his speed on gadget plays. Honestly I wouldn't even notice if Foster and Duke were gone.

You should care if Duke is gone, with limited action all year, Allen was more comfortable with him in the playoffs than any other receiver. If he actually worked with Allen all year maybe he puts up a better performance. His upside is certainly better than one gadget play McKenzie...

[MJS]

3 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said:

You should care if Duke is gone, with limited action all year, Allen was more comfortable with him in the playoffs than any other receiver. If he actually worked with Allen all year maybe he puts up a better performance. His upside is certainly better than one gadget play McKenzie...

I just don't believe that's true at all. What makes you think he was most comfortable with him? What makes you think he has any upside at all?

[In Summary]

8 hours ago, hjnick said:

I think you are missing the point on why we would draft a WR in the 2nd or 3rd round this year.  Supposedly, the WR talent level is very deep this year.

 

I'm not looking for a WR to be 3, 4, or 5 this year, I'm looking for him to be #1 or #2 next year (or at least compete with those guys).

You can't afford to pass up the value for the price.  It's like saying, "Draft who you want if they are available, but if you draft a receiver, you get 25% off."

[FeelingOnYouboty]

Insiders are saying he’s pretty much a lock for the 1st 

[DJB]

I'd love if he fell to us at 54. 

 

He's very similar to the type of WR we covet.  Quick, good at seperation ,  also has some great YAC and he's talented kick/punt return guy so versatility .  

[Paup 1995MVP]

8 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

 

Interesting, you are the only one to ever ask.  He is one of the main  protagonists in Blade Runner as portrayed by Rutger Hauer, here is his death scene

 

Interesting reference.  Blade Runner came out a long time ago.  Don't really remember it well.  But Rutger Hauer was a good actor.  Didn't he die not too long ago?  I remember him as the bad guy in a movie w Sly Stallone in the early 80's called Nitehawks.  He played a good villain.  Had a classic sort of creepiness to him.  Good actor.

[Thurman#1]

It's an interesting question.

 

Core muscle surgery can be fairly minimal, but can occasionally have bad consequences. It would be easy to know what to think for the Bills ordinarily, but with no ability to check him with team doctors it suddenly gets a lot more worrisome.

 

On the other hand, I saw an article saying that it's exactly because he won't miss a lot of the pre-draft process as he would have any other year that he got this done now. Nobody has pro days or interviews or private workouts.

 

It's hard to know if he'll fall or if he does, how much. If he does fall, I'd love to get him. I think he's going to be for real. But I wouldn't be surprised if the injury concern affected the Bills' view of the guy. And if you have a concern, the major bounty of WRs this year should make him a bit fungible, which might indeed lead to a fall. This is a great year for WRs and mid-round RBs.

Edited April 9, 2020 by Thurman#1

[formerlyofCtown]

On 4/8/2020 at 11:03 AM, ny33 said:

I personally think that, between Foster, Duke, and McKenzie, we have a solid back end of the roster, and don’t need to take a prospect as I believe one of them could become a solid third option over the next year or two. They’re also better than the back end of most WRs rooms, though obviously weren’t good enough as 2nd options on the outside last year. 

 

Aiyuk could fall to our pick in the 2nd or even be available in the early third as part of a trade up. He’s a good returner and could let us cut Roberts, keeping developmental WRs at the 4th and 5th (or even 6th) spots. I’d love to get the BPA at o-line (maybe John Simpson), RB, or “Buffalo nickel” with our 2nd, and trade up in the third if he falls. If his injury requires recovery time, we could stash him on IR to return and see how the returning backup WRs do. 

Roberts isn't just a returner.  He is one of the best if not the best returner in the league.  This kid has done nothing in the NFL returnwise or anything at all for that matter.

 

I wouldn't see any issue with McKenzie being cut as the kid could be a definite upgrade in that spot.

Edited April 9, 2020 by formerlyofCtown

[Mr. WEO]

On 4/8/2020 at 1:06 PM, Paup 1995MVP said:

Why draft a guy who just had surgery?  Especially if its a Sports Hernia type procedure.  (remember the legendary Kolbe Listenbee from TCU-that never worked out)  And especially with the shortened off season team activities.  There are many other good skill players that will be available that are healthy going into the draft.  

 

And you really can't be serious when you say that Foster Duke and McKenzie are a solid back end of the WR group.  Foster has a whole lot to prove.  The guy caught 3 passes last season.  He looked lost on the field.  Duke isn't bad but he has a lot of work to do to be part of the mix on a regular basis.  And I like McKenzie as a gadget guy, but not a true WR.  I am not sure how much upside any of the 3 really have.  But we can always hope.

 

And explain to me why so many are gung ho about the "Big Nickel" player on our defense.  Do other teams use this so called player?  I don't think that is what has been missing from our team under McDermott.  How is Dugger or Chinn going to make us a better Super Bowl Contender?  I think offense has been missing a whole lot more.  

 

 

Because it's pretty bogus.  It shouldn't slow him down at all. 

[Meatloaf63]

On 4/8/2020 at 9:01 PM, MJS said:

I just don't believe that's true at all. What makes you think he was most comfortable with him? What makes you think he has any upside at all?

I could be wrong, but he got the most targets out of any of our receivers. Maybe Houston didn’t prioritize him, but Allen wasn’t shy throwing yo him.

[4merper4mer]

On April 8, 2020 at 3:39 PM, RoyBatty is alive said:

 

Interesting, you are the only one to ever ask.  He is one of the main  protagonists in Blade Runner as portrayed by Rutger Hauer, here is his death scene

 

I don't think that's right.  I think Roy Batty is the guy who threw Brady's self pleasuring device on the field.

Edited April 10, 2020 by 4merper4mer

[RoyBatty is alive]

40 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

I don't think that's right.  I think Roy Batty is the guy who threw Brady's self pleasuring device on the field.

Fantastic, I think i know what you are alluding to, what a memory, you are spot on, I had to change that avatar which i really miss.  Thought the original incident was one of the most creative and funny things Bills fans , actually any fans have ever done.  Enough of the drunk table jumping, so passe.

[billrooter]

On 4/8/2020 at 11:13 AM, Bangarang said:

He won’t be available.
 

And how does one come to the conclusion that Foster, Duke and McKenzie are better than the back half of most WR rooms? Foster and Duke are fringe NFL players. 
 

 

 Going from last years play I have to agree, but think back just two years ago......Foster had like an 8 game span where he played much, much better than 99.9% of fringe players ever play. I wish he could find that again.

Edited April 10, 2020 by billrooter

[Pete]

Aiyuk is who I wanted the Bills to draft at 22.  If somehow he slides to 54,  hallelujah.  But Aiyuk goes in 1st IMO.

 

I would like to add RB, WR with first two picks, in either order, trade ups possibly. If we could get two 2nd round picks, we could get a RB and WR who both would contribute much to offense immediately, chances are.   Or if we could get 3-5 top 100 picks.  QB I would look at too.  Jalen Hurts in particular