Poll - Who Should the Bills take with their 2nd pick (For TSW Mock Draft)

[H2o]

4 minutes ago, Virgil said:

I really don’t get the WR love here.  Beasley and Brown aren’t going anywhere for at least 2 years.  Why spend a 2nd round pick on a #4 receiver 

Diggs and Brown outside, Beasley and Claypool running from the slot, occasionally swap Diggs or Brown and Claypool, and then Knox at TE in 4 WR sets? This O would be unstoppable Virgil. Who are you going to double cover? How are you gonna scheme to stop all of these guys? It would be a constant nightmare for opposing defenses and DC's, especially if Josh is making the correct hot reads more consistently this year.  

Edited April 6, 2020 by H2o

[Kirby Jackson]

3 minutes ago, Virgil said:

I really don’t get the WR love here.  Beasley and Brown aren’t going anywhere for at least 2 years.  Why spend a 2nd round pick on a #4 receiver 

I think Claypool is a bit of a hybrid. Teams asked him to do TE drills at the combine. He’s more of a “weapon” type that will primarily play in the red zone early in his career. He’s really gifted physically.  I’m not opposed to the pick if they have him as BPA. The Bills said that they wanted more “TD makers” and so far have just added Diggs (which is HUGE).  They really are in position to go a variety of ways. 

[Lurker]

17 minutes ago, H2o said:

 with Singletary being recognized as the more agile of the two and CEH running with a bit more power.  

 

CEH is a better athlete than Singletary and a more natural receiver.

 

                                   Singletary           CEH

 

40-Yard                           4.66                4.60

Vertical Leap                 35.0"               39.9"

Broad Jump                   117"                123"

Bench Press                   15                    15

 

Hand Size                     8.50"               9.63"

 

 

 

[DCOrange]

6 minutes ago, Virgil said:

I really don’t get the WR love here.  Beasley and Brown aren’t going anywhere for at least 2 years.  Why spend a 2nd round pick on a #4 receiver 

I'm totally fine with it if a guy like Pittman, Reagor, Higgins, Shenault, Aiyuk, etc. slide to 54. I view Claypool as like a 3rd or 4th round prospect though so I'm not really in favor of this one. Being optimistic though, he gives us a combination of size and athleticism that we don't currently have in the WR corps so he could end up having a role early on if he develops nicely.

[yungmack]

My bet? They wind up with none of them.

[H2o]

19 minutes ago, Lurker said:

 

CEH is a better athlete than Singletary and a more natural receiver.

 

                                   Singletary           CEH

 

40-Yard                           4.66                4.60

Vertical Leap                 35.0"               39.9"

Broad Jump                   117"                123"

Bench Press                   15                    15

 

Hand Size                     8.50"               9.63"

 

 

 

Probably so as far as being the better receiver out of the backfield, but they are still very similar RB's when you compare the two overall. It's like the same guy with one having better hands and one being more agile than the other. 

[NewEra]

28 minutes ago, Virgil said:

I really don’t get the WR love here.  Beasley and Brown aren’t going anywhere for at least 2 years.  Why spend a 2nd round pick on a #4 receiver 

I voted for Claypool because there aren’t any OL on the list, nor is my guy Antonio Gibson.
 

i don’t really view claypool as a WR, but a versatile weapon that can line up all over and is effective as a big red zone target, a blocker and as a ST player.  Not much not to like when fitting him into this Bills team.  He really fits a lot of spots.  

[turftoe]

30 minutes ago, Virgil said:

I really don’t get the WR love here.  Beasley and Brown aren’t going anywhere for at least 2 years.  Why spend a 2nd round pick on a #4 receiver 

He would add a dimension that we dont currently have. He could be a great TE to pair with Knox or a great red zone WR. He is a special teams demon so he would also contribute that way. I think a good #2 RB will be there next round. I dont think Claypool gets past Indy at 44 unless they take a WR at 34. He played in their backyard and they have heavily scouted him. 

[GunnerBill]

22 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

I'm totally fine with it if a guy like Pittman, Reagor, Higgins, Shenault, Aiyuk, etc. slide to 54. I view Claypool as like a 3rd or 4th round prospect though so I'm not really in favor of this one. Being optimistic though, he gives us a combination of size and athleticism that we don't currently have in the WR corps so he could end up having a role early on if he develops nicely.

 

I think Claypool is a 3rd rounder too. I think he is a slot receiver who runs seam routes. Basically what Jimmy Graham was for the Saints. He was never really a tight end. He played in the slot but rain almost exclusively seam routes until the redzone where he ran the odd corner route.

 

I would not hate any of the receivers you list at #54 though I wouldn't describe either Pittman or Shenault as sliding there. That is pretty much around where I value them. Reagor, Higgins and Aiyuk I think would be slides and all, IMO, will be gone.

[Lurker]

3 minutes ago, H2o said:

 It's like the same guy with one having better hands and one being more agile than the other. 

 

I'm not sure why that's a problem.   If both guys are equally effective, that's one hell of a backfield.   

 

The whole concept of a 'thunder and lightning' tandem (two different skill sets) seems old school to me in a pass-happy NFL.   Having RB1 and RB2 that can run AND play a large role in the passing game is where the game's headed , IMO.     

 

RB3 can be a pile driver, short yardage specialist.   Those guys are easy to find...     

[Rocky Landing]

From this list, I guess I would take Terrell Lewis. 

But, I believe that it is more likely than not that we trade up. I also believe we draft BPA for RB, LB, Edge, S, OT, DL, maybe WR, or CB. And, I don't share the common opinion that good RBs are a dime a dozen.

[Logic]

This is insane. Instead of taking a stud running back — RB2 is currently TJ freaking Yeldon — or an athletic young pass rusher or a playmaking TE to pair with Knox or even a young CB2 candidate...the leading vote getter is a WR?!

 

Madness. 

 

For all the 21 and 11 personnel this team is gonna be running, we’re taking a WR4 with our highest draft pick?! Glad TSW won’t be making the call in real life.

[DJB]

If we draft CEH or Akers both will surpass Singletary as the starter. 

 

Akers is a much better runner inside and can catch. CEH is the much better receiver over Singletary and can also run inside

 

I'd love either one at 54

[DrDawkinstein]

6 minutes ago, Logic said:

This is insane. Instead of taking a stud running back — RB2 is currently TJ freaking Yeldon — or an athletic young pass rusher or a playmaking TE to pair with Knox or even a young CB2 candidate...the leading vote getter is a WR?!

 

Madness. 

 

For all the 21 and 11 personnel this team is gonna be running, we’re taking a WR4 with our highest draft pick?! Glad TSW won’t be making the call in real life.

 

Beasely and Brown are very cut-able after this season, and would save the team a lot of cap space to be used elsewhere. WRs usually need a year to develop. This would set us up for the future.

 

I voted RB, but just sayin...

[Virgil]

Claypool is the pick. 

 

Thank you everyone

[Logic]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Beasely and Brown are very cut-able after this season, and would save the team a lot of cap space to be used elsewhere. WRs usually need a year to develop. This would set us up for the future.

 

I voted RB, but just sayin...

 

Still a yuck for me.

 

For the reasons you mentioned, I’m all for the Bills taking a WR (or 2!) in this draft. But because of the deep crop of WRs, they can do it in the 3rd-6th rounds. No need to spend such a premium pick on a WR when it’s the deepest position in the draft.

 

Besides, let’s suppose the Bills hadn’t traded for Diggs and had instead used pick 22 to take a rookie WR. In that scenario, would people still want the Bills to then turn around and spend their 2nd round pick on a WR, too? It’s nuts. Bills fans just have hard-ons for height/weight/speed WR candidates, which was exacerbated by the success of DK Metcalf last year. It’s silly.

[Freddie's Dead]

13 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Claypool is the pick. 

 

Thank you everyone

 

Freakin' Whaley.

[maryland-bills-fan]

10 minutes ago, H2o said:

Diggs and Brown outside, Beasley and Claypool running from the slot, occasionally swap Diggs or Brown and Claypool, and then Knox at TE in 4 WR sets? This O would be unstoppable Virgil. Who are you going to double cover? How are you gonna scheme to stop all of these guys? It would be a constant nightmare for opposing defenses and DC's, especially if Josh is making the correct hot reads more consistently this year.  

Imagine if we ALSO had a running back who was a good receiver, something like that T .Thomas guy.  Somebody that got like 55 catches in his senior year of college. 

[H2o]

Just now, maryland-bills-fan said:

Imagine if we ALSO had a running back who was a good receiver, something like that T .Thomas guy.  Somebody that got like 55 catches in his senior year of college. 

Comparing CEH to Thurman?

[maryland-bills-fan]

38 minutes ago, turftoe said:

He would add a dimension that we dont currently have. He could be a great TE to pair with Knox or a great red zone WR. He is a special teams demon so he would also contribute that way. I think a good #2 RB will be there next round. I dont think Claypool gets past Indy at 44 unless they take a WR at 34. He played in their backyard and they have heavily scouted him. 

I would think that a guy at #54 would be the RB1A back, not the alternate guy.

1 minute ago, H2o said:

Comparing CEH to Thurman?

Maybe not a TT the second, but somebody who would get more than 194 yards in a season-  maybe 500-700 and who would be a threat in the passing game. That would also help the passing game for the wide outs.  Why would anyone want to NOT use those parts of the playbook?