Q-baby! Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Yes. In the real world where normal people reside telling someone to Shut The ***** Up is classic anger. It was....oh stfu (like with a roll of the eyes.) Disdain, not anger. I look forward to you telling me again what I mean. ???
SectionC3 Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: The last few exchanges here are exactly the reason why Chef questioned your abilities. There are very good reasons why you were asked the questions you were asked. If you are to be believed that you are not a reincarnation of another poster then you have recklessly entered the fray here without doing your homework, on par with asking a witness in court a question you don't already have the answer to. If you want to practice your debating skills here like you indicated then come prepared and don't think it will be like some Whack-A-Mole game. You should have lurked for awhile. So these questions that you're talking about . . . which ones are you referring to, and why were they asked? On balance, though, you're right. I should have done some homework before recklessly entering a fray dominated by a couple of conspiracy theorists and close-minded right wingers. Looks like you're as much of a hoaxer as that Deranged Rhino guy. Unfortunately it looks like I might have to put you in the fake news category, too. Sad! 8 hours ago, Chef Jim said: I’m a money manager? Nice try counselor. If you’re going to succeed in an argument I suggest you find someone else other than Q to get your information from. So you are a chef? If so, cool. I need some new recipes. If not, I suggest changing your "name" because you might reasonably be accused of spreading fake news. Edited April 21, 2020 by SectionC3
SectionC3 Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 This guy looks like he's about to do some COVID-19 winning. Jair Bolsonaro coughs as he speaks in Brasilia Sunday. Photograph: Sergio Lima/AFP via Getty Images
ComradeKayAdams Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 On 4/20/2020 at 1:12 AM, SectionC3 said: I see a lot of back and forth about firearms, but no conversation about the benefits of broccoli. Which, by the way, I am dying for right now in the midst of the pandemic. Looking at these past 10 thread pages…I think we all would have been better off debating broccoli. At least the firearms debate managed to take a couple interesting twists and turns. The “100 home invasion homicides per year” stat pops up a lot and is unfortunately used disingenuously among my fellow lefty friends. It’s a surprisingly small number, but of course it doesn’t account for all the burglaries, assaults, and rapes that were either thwarted or could have been deterred with firearms before police arrive. My same lefty friends then point to the approximately 400 annual homicides from mass shootings as a reason for heavy gun restriction, if not an all-out repeal of the second amendment. So worrying about 100 national homicides is right-wing paranoia, but worrying about 400 is highly sensible? My conclusion is that determining rationality seems to be a mostly subjective endeavor when you’re dealing with risk analysis. Is it rational to purchase fire insurance? Earthquake insurance? Volcano insurance? Meteorite insurance? When it comes to protecting your loved ones, sometimes uber rationality doesn’t even need to be a part of the equation. This reminds me of the infamous 2007 home invasion in the safe neighborhood of Cheshire, Connecticut. If the doctor had purchased guns the weekend before for home defense, maybe everyone around him would have looked at him like he was going crazy. But maybe his wife and two daughters would still be alive? Apologies for the rambling thoughts. By the way, I would rank broccoli as the second healthiest human food on the planet, slightly behind spinach and slightly ahead of garlic. Disagree? Come fight me. 2
SectionC3 Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 1 minute ago, RealKayAdams said: Looking at these past 10 thread pages…I think we all would have been better off debating broccoli. At least the firearms debate managed to take a couple interesting twists and turns. The “100 home invasion homicides per year” stat pops up a lot and is unfortunately used disingenuously among my fellow lefty friends. It’s a surprisingly small number, but of course it doesn’t account for all the burglaries, assaults, and rapes that were either thwarted or could have been deterred with firearms before police arrive. My same lefty friends then point to the approximately 400 annual homicides from mass shootings as a reason for heavy gun restriction, if not an all-out repeal of the second amendment. So worrying about 100 national homicides is right-wing paranoia, but worrying about 400 is highly sensible? My conclusion is that determining rationality seems to be a mostly subjective endeavor when you’re dealing with risk analysis. Is it rational to purchase fire insurance? Earthquake insurance? Volcano insurance? Meteorite insurance? When it comes to protecting your loved ones, sometimes uber rationality doesn’t even need to be a part of the equation. This reminds me of the infamous 2007 home invasion in the safe neighborhood of Cheshire, Connecticut. If the doctor had purchased guns the weekend before for home defense, maybe everyone around him would have looked at him like he was going crazy. But maybe his wife and two daughters would still be alive? Apologies for the rambling thoughts. By the way, I would rank broccoli as the second healthiest human food on the planet, slightly behind spinach and slightly ahead of garlic. Disagree? Come fight me. Sounds like you're advocating a vegetable draft. I'm in. And on the weapons, the key element to your argument is "heavy." I don't see the expired assault weapons ban as "heavy." And I believe that worrying about a bunch of dead kids in an elementary school in Sandy Hook, and a bunch of dead concertgoers in Las Vegas, is a highly sensible thing to do. So your premise that I and others are overreacting to a relatively small problem is colored by your view of what constitutes an overreaction. There's another flaw. Nobody, and I mean nobody, here or in the relevant political arena, has advocated "an all-out repeal of the second amendment." Respectfully (and again, I dislike the term), that is gaslighting. In point of fact, nobody is advocating taking away guns that could be used to thwart a home invasion. Instead, the advocacy involves the removal from the marketplace of guns that could be used to most easily facilitate mass slaughter (back read re: the definition of mass shooting) that previously were stricken from the marketplace through the now-expired federal assault weapons ban.
KRC Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, RealKayAdams said: Looking at these past 10 thread pages…I think we all would have been better off debating broccoli. At least the firearms debate managed to take a couple interesting twists and turns. The “100 home invasion homicides per year” stat pops up a lot and is unfortunately used disingenuously among my fellow lefty friends. It’s a surprisingly small number, but of course it doesn’t account for all the burglaries, assaults, and rapes that were either thwarted or could have been deterred with firearms before police arrive. My same lefty friends then point to the approximately 400 annual homicides from mass shootings as a reason for heavy gun restriction, if not an all-out repeal of the second amendment. So worrying about 100 national homicides is right-wing paranoia, but worrying about 400 is highly sensible? My conclusion is that determining rationality seems to be a mostly subjective endeavor when you’re dealing with risk analysis. Is it rational to purchase fire insurance? Earthquake insurance? Volcano insurance? Meteorite insurance? When it comes to protecting your loved ones, sometimes uber rationality doesn’t even need to be a part of the equation. This reminds me of the infamous 2007 home invasion in the safe neighborhood of Cheshire, Connecticut. If the doctor had purchased guns the weekend before for home defense, maybe everyone around him would have looked at him like he was going crazy. But maybe his wife and two daughters would still be alive? Apologies for the rambling thoughts. By the way, I would rank broccoli as the second healthiest human food on the planet, slightly behind spinach and slightly ahead of garlic. Disagree? Come fight me. Good points about the stats. They can be manipulated to support any opinion. Personally, I am pro 2A. I am a gun owner and I believe that before we make any new laws, we should focus on enforcing our existing laws. Oh, and my kale will take on your spinach any day. 1 1
SoCal Deek Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 I’m not a big gun guy...but it seems to me the people that drafted the constitution were fully aware of what firearms were and they specifically included them in the document. Firearms weren’t invented after 1776, and in fact they were way more prevalent back then than they are now. If in 2020 you want to change the Constitution, so be it. There’s a process for that. Work hard to get it done. If you don’t want to take the time or effort to do that then there are plenty of other countries for you to choose to from that have different societal rules that might suit you better. No offense at all intended. We live in the most mobile time in human history...go for it. 1
ComradeKayAdams Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 20 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Sounds like you're advocating a vegetable draft. I'm in. And on the weapons, the key element to your argument is "heavy." I don't see the expired assault weapons ban as "heavy." And I believe that worrying about a bunch of dead kids in an elementary school in Sandy Hook, and a bunch of dead concertgoers in Las Vegas, is a highly sensible thing to do. So your premise that I and others are overreacting to a relatively small problem is colored by your view of what constitutes an overreaction. There's another flaw. Nobody, and I mean nobody, here or in the relevant political arena, has advocated "an all-out repeal of the second amendment." Respectfully (and again, I dislike the term), that is gaslighting. In point of fact, nobody is advocating taking away guns that could be used to thwart a home invasion. Instead, the advocacy involves the removal from the marketplace of guns that could be used to most easily facilitate mass slaughter (back read re: the definition of mass shooting) that previously were stricken from the marketplace through the now-expired federal assault weapons ban. I bet you we could end up agreeing a lot on gun regulation specifics. I do personally know people who want to repeal the second amendment or are at least indifferent to doing so. You are correct that it’s not a very popular political opinion or one that has been represented anywhere in this thread. But more importantly, here are my top 5 vegetables: 1. Spinach 2. Broccoli 3. Garlic 4. Sweet potatoes 5. Onions I am willing to trade up to get into that top 5. Brandon Beane style.
Chef Jim Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Q-baby! said: It was....oh stfu (like with a roll of the eyes.) Disdain, not anger. I look forward to you telling me again what I mean. ??? Sorry man. Your posts are often childish, immature, vulgar and angry. You relish in the fact that people don’t like you and applaud when someone puts you on or threatens to put you on ignore. That is a sad existence. But hey if you enjoy going through life that way have at it. But keep in mind there are other people here that try to enjoy the community and you make it difficult. It’s not all about you. And the childish response or “well them put me on ignore!!” in 3....2.....1 1 2
RochesterRob Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Chef Jim said: For someone who a according to you has it made in the shade you are one angry dude. I used to say money can’t buy you happiness but it can buy you a big ole yacht and you can sail right up next to it. Looks like it got you got a dingy with a leak. Well, at least he did it right by the rules of the net. If you are going to fling bull dung you might as well go big and make yourself an 8 figure millionaire, several thousand sq ft primary residence plus choice vacation property that you beat Buffett and Gates to get. Beer can mansions and relieving yourself outdoors does not sound anywheres as impressive. 1
Chef Jim Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, SectionC3 said: So you are a chef? If so, cool. I need some new recipes. If not, I suggest changing your "name" because you might reasonably be accused of spreading fake news. Really counselor? That’s the best you have? Our screen names have to reflect what we do for a living? I hope you didn’t put a lot of thought into this post. Anyway what recipes are you looking for? 1
RochesterRob Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, RealKayAdams said: I bet you we could end up agreeing a lot on gun regulation specifics. I do personally know people who want to repeal the second amendment or are at least indifferent to doing so. You are correct that it’s not a very popular political opinion or one that has been represented anywhere in this thread. But more importantly, here are my top 5 vegetables: 1. Spinach 2. Broccoli 3. Garlic 4. Sweet potatoes 5. Onions I am willing to trade up to get into that top 5. Brandon Beane style. I'll trade ya 50 lbs of sweet corn plus 20 lbs of carrots plus 20 lbs of green beans for 10 lbs of sweet onions and 15 lbs of broccoli? Is that Beane like enough for you. By the way what do you have against asparagus?
/dev/null Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, RealKayAdams said: But more importantly, here are my top 5 vegetables: 1. Spinach 2. Broccoli 3. Garlic 4. Sweet potatoes 5. Onions I am willing to trade up to get into that top 5. Brandon Beane style. If I had to pick one NFL exec to run a vegetable draft, it would be Brandon Beane 1 1
ComradeKayAdams Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: I'll trade ya 50 lbs of sweet corn plus 20 lbs of carrots plus 20 lbs of green beans for 10 lbs of sweet onions and 15 lbs of broccoli? Is that Beane like enough for you. By the way what do you have against asparagus? It fell down my draft board because it made my scouts' urine smell. 3 minutes ago, /dev/null said: If I had to pick one NFL exec to run a vegetable draft, it would be Brandon Beane He can run my legume draft, but I'm in charge of the vegetable draft. 2
3rdnlng Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 20 minutes ago, /dev/null said: If I had to pick one NFL exec to run a vegetable draft, it would be Brandon Beane I'm sure he's spent a great deal of time scouting PPP. We may not have a lot of vegetables but the ones that we do are all pro level.
Q-baby! Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Chef Jim said: Sorry man. Your posts are often childish, immature, vulgar and angry. You relish in the fact that people don’t like you and applaud when someone puts you on or threatens to put you on ignore. That is a sad existence. But hey if you enjoy going through life that way have at it. But keep in mind there are other people here that try to enjoy the community and you make it difficult. It’s not all about you. And the childish response or “well them put me on ignore!!” in 3....2.....1 Thanks for the advice, but I don’t need any!
SectionC3 Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Chef Jim said: Really counselor? That’s the best you have? Our screen names have to reflect what we do for a living? I hope you didn’t put a lot of thought into this post. Anyway what recipes are you looking for? Depends whether you’re actually a chef. if you are, asparagus, beans, eggplant. Veggie type stuff. Trying to get away from processed foods that have become habit during the pandemic. and no fake recipes! (I kid ; couldn’t resist). 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: I’m not a big gun guy...but it seems to me the people that drafted the constitution were fully aware of what firearms were and they specifically included them in the document. Firearms weren’t invented after 1776, and in fact they were way more prevalent back then than they are now. If in 2020 you want to change the Constitution, so be it. There’s a process for that. Work hard to get it done. If you don’t want to take the time or effort to do that then there are plenty of other countries for you to choose to from that have different societal rules that might suit you better. No offense at all intended. We live in the most mobile time in human history...go for it. that’s sort of one of the interesting points about the 2a. Obviously it covers muskets and devices that existed at the time the constitution was drafted. But for the 2a to embrace a gun created or invented thereafter, say a 9mm, for instance, one has to consider the constitution a living document. That’s completely fair and reasonable, and I am in that camp. the catch is that a lot of 2a people also are right to life people. Nothing wrong with either position. But it’s impossible to square “living document” on the 2a side of things with “no penumbra of rights” on the abortion issue. One of the beautiful paradoxes of American society, I guess.
SectionC3 Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, RealKayAdams said: I bet you we could end up agreeing a lot on gun regulation specifics. I do personally know people who want to repeal the second amendment or are at least indifferent to doing so. You are correct that it’s not a very popular political opinion or one that has been represented anywhere in this thread. But more importantly, here are my top 5 vegetables: 1. Spinach 2. Broccoli 3. Garlic 4. Sweet potatoes 5. Onions I am willing to trade up to get into that top 5. Brandon Beane style. you’re going to have to get ahead of me for broccoli. Eggplant is my sleeper.
Q-baby! Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, RochesterRob said: Well, at least he did it right by the rules of the net. If you are going to fling bull dung you might as well go big and make yourself an 8 figure millionaire, several thousand sq ft primary residence plus choice vacation property that you beat Buffett and Gates to get. Beer can mansions and relieving yourself outdoors does not sound anywheres as impressive. As a homeless person, where to you generally get wifi?
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