Gene Frenkle Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 58 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said: Guns are great but they're not going to save my life and anybody holding onto a gun thinking it's going to save their life is living in a fantasy world. And that's the other part. The chances of you being invaded by an armed intruder in the first place and successfully protecting yourself are astronomically low.
Warren Zevon Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 Just now, Gene Frenkle said: And that's the other part. The chances of you being invaded by an armed intruder in the first place and successfully protecting yourself are astronomically low. Plus they're locked so... I'd be screwed. Now the machete near the door... That's another story
Gene Frenkle Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 41 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’m the CEO of a multi million dollar architectural firm....and you? You should give all of your starving friends some of your millions. 35 minutes ago, Gary M said: This woman might disagree with you. https://disrn.com/news/65-year-old-tx-woman-shoots-home-invader-dead-after-he-choked-her-73-year-old-husband-unconscious Holy crap! A sample size of 1. I'm convinced. 1 1
3rdnlng Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Tell that to my daughters best friend and her husband who’re five months pregnant and need the jobs to pay for expenses! I’ll let her know you said for her to ‘hang on a little while longer’ while we kill off her job for good. Maybe when it comes time she can just hold off those contractions a little longer?
Gene Frenkle Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Yes, this was one of your links: 2015: 102 Burglary Homocides https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/expanded_homicide_data_table_10_murder_circumstances_by_relationship_2015.xls Pretty slick. Did you actually think you could get that one by me? Of course there won't be as many homos killed in a burglary as normal people. Did you count how many of them got slapped to death? Your long term absence has affected your posting skills. While you never were the best, at least you used to be able to keep up with Crayonz. Not to upset your self of steam but you might need to get yourself some Super Beets and Ginkgo Biloba in order to keep up with the rest of us. Just stay away from TH3's magical elixir that not only kills all viruses but can put a really nice shine on the glass walls of an aquarium. Dude, Homos is not the preferred nomenclature. Edit: Goddamn ***** censor filter ***** with my ***** jokes... Edit: It censors the singular of homos, but not the plural (obviously) 13 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Were those guesses? Do you think they were? Edited April 20, 2020 by Gene Frenkle
3rdnlng Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: Dude, ***** is not the preferred nomenclature. What would you prefer?
Gene Frenkle Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said: Plus they're locked so... I'd be screwed. Now the machete near the door... That's another story No, Chef said he kept his guns under his pillow when sleeping in Oakland. That's both smart and possibly irresponsible, IDK. 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: What would you prefer? Not big on the pop culture references, are you Dude? Edit: I've got some extra Ginkgo if you need some. Edited April 20, 2020 by Gene Frenkle
SectionC3 Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, Doc said: How likely are you to die from a mass shooting with an assault weapon? I know where you’re going with this, but it’s a hard question to answer directly because you haven’t defined assault weapon. Or mass shooting, for that matter.
Chef Jim Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: Living in Oakland doesn't really change your odds of getting killed by an intruder much at all, even if it makes you feel better. Like I said, I might do the same in that situation, but the stats are the stats dude. Have I mentioned my concern about being killed by an intruder? I’m talking about protection. Someone breaks in I want to make sure he realizes he picked the wrong house. I feel like the dude has a much better chance of going to jail if I hold him with my Glock vs a spatula.
SoCal Deek Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: You should give all of your starving friends some of your millions. And the sad part is that you immediately assume that I’m not.
Chef Jim Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: And that's the other part. The chances of you being invaded by an armed intruder in the first place and successfully protecting yourself are astronomically low. Question. Do you by chance have or know someone who has term life insurance?
Gene Frenkle Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: Have I mentioned my concern about being killed by an intruder? I’m talking about protection. Someone breaks in I want to make sure he realizes he picked the wrong house. I feel like the dude has a much better chance of going to jail if I hold him with my Glock vs a spatula. Yep, I understand that it makes you feel better. Like I said, have at it. 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: And the sad part is that you immediately assume that I’m not. Not true at all, though you do spend a lot of time posting on a message board instead of running the company. Like I'm one to talk! I'm serious, you should help them out. It the charitable thing to do. YOU can make a difference.
Chef Jim Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: And that's the other part. The chances of you being invaded by an armed intruder in the first place and successfully protecting yourself are astronomically low. I gotta ask. Why are you so adamantly against people wanting to feel safe in their own home?
SectionC3 Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Have I mentioned my concern about being killed by an intruder? I’m talking about protection. Someone breaks in I want to make sure he realizes he picked the wrong house. I feel like the dude has a much better chance of going to jail if I hold him with my Glock vs a spatula. Not sure what the justification law is in Cali. But I take it that in the scenario in which the intruder tries to turn and run you're going to put some lead in his back, right?
Doc Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: I know where you’re going with this, but it’s a hard question to answer directly because you haven’t defined assault weapon. Or mass shooting, for that matter. Automatic or even semi-automatic and more than two people.
Gene Frenkle Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: Question. Do you by chance have or know someone who has term life insurance? Yep. The field of causes of death is much wider when we're not talking about protecting the homestead. People die every day of all kinds of things. That's actually a reasonable thing to worry about. My point is not that you shouldn't have your guns. It's that the reason most people state for having their guns is not a rational way of thinking. Conservatives are generally more fearful of irrational things (disclaimer: the population of Conservatives, not necessarily you), so it makes sense that they are the ones who are typically pro-gun.
Chef Jim Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 Just now, SectionC3 said: Not sure what the justification law is in Cali. But I take it that in the scenario in which the intruder tries to turn and run you're going to put some lead in his back, right? Nope. Nice try. Again with the “I know all about you” posts. ? Here’s a question for you. What piece of protection is going to have the bad guy turning and running in the first place. A handgun or a spatula?
Gene Frenkle Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I gotta ask. Why are you so adamantly against people wanting to feel safe in their own home? I'm generally irked by irrational thought and illogical thinking dictating how we live our lives. Plus, I like to argue. 1
Chef Jim Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene Frenkle said: Yep. The field of causes of death is much wider when we're not talking about protecting the homestead. People die every day of all kinds of things. That's actually a reasonable thing to worry about. My point is not that you shouldn't have your guns. It's that the reason most people state for having their guns is not a rational way of thinking. Conservatives are generally more fearful of irrational things (disclaimer: the population of Conservatives, not necessarily you), so it makes sense that they are the ones who are typically pro-gun. The stats show that a term policy every paying out is astronomically low. So why are they so popular? Your point is I shouldn’t have my guns????? Seriously? Why not? 1
SectionC3 Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 Just now, Doc said: Automatic or even semi-automatic and more than two people. Autos are illegal, right? Semis can make autos with a bump stock, correct? I'll spare everyone the aggravation of the stats. The odds are low. Undoubtedly. I'll note that you've chosen a wide berth w/r/t to "assault weapons" that embraces far more firearms than were affected by the Federal Assault Weapons ban of the 90s. So your plan probably is to get me to say that it's a good idea for gun control to embrace semi-autos, and then you'll come back and try to characterize me as a having an all or nothing view on gun control. I'll cut right to the chase and say that I suppose reinstitution of the federal assault weapons ban that was allowed to expire, that I acknowledge that the ban will not defeat all mass shootings (particularly given the broad definition of the phrase that you have chosen), and that I maintain that the specifics of the ban will, however, limit carnage in instances of multiple casualties. That is, I think it's a good idea. See? I just saved us a whole lot of back and forth today.
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