Trump Is Just A Terrible President, Totally Unfit For The Job

[Hardhatharry]

B.c of Trump's idiocy now all the idiots are demanding everything open. So sad to see the state of this country and a president that only cares about votes.

[Warren Zevon]

1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Almost as backwards as "Keep America Great."  I don't know about you, but I think Depression-era unemployment, a pandemic, and a president who claims "absolute authority" but takes no responsibility for such crises is not all that great. 

 

There is rich irony in the protest. The organizer, Russ Thompson (who is sad his concrete business can't open  wah wah wah) was sentenced to three years probation in 2017 for voter fraud. A Republican involved with voter fraud? Impossible!

[SectionC3]

1 minute ago, Warren Zevon said:

 

There is rich irony in the protest. The organizer, Russ Thompson (who is sad his concrete business can't open  wah wah wah) was sentenced to three years probation in 2017 for voter fraud. A Republican involved with voter fraud? Impossible!

 

But people plead guilty for lots of different reasons!  That's fake news because it wasn't on Fox or OAN! /end sarcasm. 

[Tiberius]

Trump’s nonsense does not seem to be working. In the latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, 58 percent of Americans expressed worry the economy will reopen too soon, and only 32 percent are concerned it will not be reopened fast enough. Notably, “Only 36 percent of respondents in the poll say they generally trust what Trump has said when it comes to the coronavirus, while 52 percent say they don’t trust him.” Americans meanwhile give their own governors a 66 percent approval rating. Only 34 percent think the federal government has done enough on testing or on making other medical supplies available.

[SectionC3]

3 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said:

 

There is rich irony in the protest. The organizer, Russ Thompson (who is sad his concrete business can't open  wah wah wah) was sentenced to three years probation in 2017 for voter fraud. A Republican involved with voter fraud? Impossible!

 

Also, I didn't realize that he had a concrete business. My understanding is that he used to be Carl Paladino's driver.  Not sure what happened b/w him and Carl. 

Just now, Tiberius said:

Trump’s nonsense does not seem to be working. In the latest NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, 58 percent of Americans expressed worry the economy will reopen too soon, and only 32 percent are concerned it will not be reopened fast enough. Notably, “Only 36 percent of respondents in the poll say they generally trust what Trump has said when it comes to the coronavirus, while 52 percent say they don’t trust him.” Americans meanwhile give their own governors a 66 percent approval rating. Only 34 percent think the federal government has done enough on testing or on making other medical supplies available.

 

Gotta be fake newz.   There's a sizable contingent here that's ready to go out and start liberating stuff without wearing masks or practicing social distancing, just like the Prez. 

 

Oh, and bets against the market are at an all-time high this morning.  But of course that has nothing to do with the misguided and myopic haste in the White House. 

[Chef Jim]

7 hours ago, Gene Frenkle said:

 

Nope. I have no problem with it, actually. I'm just interested in debating how important it really is. Given the crime stats and as well as stats around how having guns at home actually increases your odds of being killed by a gun, I wonder if "keeping my family safe from intruders" people are really just making themselves feel better without accomplishing the desired goal. That said, it obviously helps you sleep at night, so by all means, have at it. I honestly hope you never have to use it.

It’s a peace of mind play. In certain neighborhoods (like Oakland) it’s a reality not paranoia. If I was paranoid I’d have the guns out regardless of where I lived.  Now I have them locked up and leave windows and doors unlocked. 

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

 Nope.  Don’t feel like a fool.  
 

Also, I live basically the same way.  Went vegetarian recently.  It’s like rocket fuel for the body.  Try it.  It’s great. 

Well you should feel like a fool. Telling someone that they should be concerned about their health when you have no idea how healthy they actually are. 

[SectionC3]

7 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

It’s a peace of mind play. In certain neighborhoods (like Oakland) it’s a reality not paranoia. If I was paranoid I’d have the guns out regardless of where I lived.  Now I have them locked up and leave windows and doors unlocked. 

 

That actually is a pretty good articulation of your position and a pretty good explanation of why you don't fall into the paranoid category.  Well done.  

Just now, Chef Jim said:

Well you should feel like a fool. Telling someone that they should be concerned about their health when you have no idea how healthy they actually are. 

 

There you go again.  Another Chef Jim hoax.  Fake news.  

[SoCal Deek]

53 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said:

Yes it would be far better if the citizenry would just be willing to quietly starve to death huddled in their homes waiting patiently for the government truck to come round with their ration of cheese. 

[SectionC3]

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

Yes it would be far better if the citizenry would just be willing to quietly starve to death huddled in their homes waiting patiently for the government truck to come round with their ration of cheese. 

 

Who said anything about starving to death?  Grocery stores and pharmacies are open here.  To my understanding there is no forced closure of grocery stores and food supply operations anywhere.  There may be certain food supply issues (getting bacon or ham or whatever is made at those SD plants might be tricky for a bit).  But the cheese reference is (again, I detest the term) gaslighting.  Maybe I should just call it a SoCal Deek hoax.  

[Warren Zevon]

2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Who said anything about starving to death?  Grocery stores and pharmacies are open here.  To my understanding there is no forced closure of grocery stores and food supply operations anywhere.  There may be certain food supply issues (getting bacon or ham or whatever is made at those SD plants might be tricky for a bit).  But the cheese reference is (again, I detest the term) gaslighting.  Maybe I should just call it a SoCal Deek hoax.  

 

Deek is a hyperbolic moron

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Who said anything about starving to death?  Grocery stores and pharmacies are open here.  To my understanding there is no forced closure of grocery stores and food supply operations anywhere.  There may be certain food supply issues (getting bacon or ham or whatever is made at those SD plants might be tricky for a bit).  But the cheese reference is (again, I detest the term) gaslighting.  Maybe I should just call it a SoCal Deek hoax.  

Absolutely hilarious! And can you tell me where the millions of unemployed people are going to get the MONEY to go to your open GROCERY STORE???  ‘Let them eat cake?’ 

Just now, Warren Zevon said:

 

Deek is a hyperbolic moron

Put the bong down Warren. 

[RochesterRob]

46 minutes ago, Hardhatharry said:

B.c of Trump's idiocy now all the idiots are demanding everything open. So sad to see the state of this country and a president that only cares about votes.

  People need to work in order to pay their bills.  Last I knew American Express and other creditors still want their money pandemic or not.  If a household consists of 2 workers making 75K per year collectively it's going to take more than the 1,200 dollars per month times 2 to cover the gap when it comes to paying the mortgage, debt on two vehicles, grocery, utilities, etc..

[SectionC3]

22 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Absolutely hilarious! And can you tell me where the millions of unemployed people are going to get the MONEY to go to your open GROCERY STORE???  ‘Let them eat cake?’ 

 

More fake logic from fake news SoCal Deek. 

 

The fed unemployment benefits are designed to take care of that.  And, for what it's worth, your logic has a flaw: simply reopening the economy doesn't mean that the "customers" will be there.  Because, you know, like two thirds or so of them seem to think it's a bad idea and are less likely to consume at pre-pandemic levels.

 

You'll probably come back with "but some people don't get the unemployment!" Fair enough.  There are going to be some losers in this situation, and the approaches now (which, I note, have been articulated in significant part by the Trump Administration) are designed to cause the least amount of harm. 

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/03.16.20_coronavirus-guidance_8.5x11_315PM.pdf

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-extends-social-distancing-guidelines-april-30-predicts-great-things-n1171536

 

 

Edited April 20, 2020 by SectionC3

[Chef Jim]

11 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

That actually is a pretty good articulation of your position and a pretty good explanation of why you don't fall into the paranoid category.  Well done.  

But, for some reason, you and Gene felt it necessary to go On about paranoia last night. And that is why, if you don’t feel foolish, you should. 
 

That is the problem with pointing fingers at people without knowing anything about their lives. 

[SectionC3]

1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

But, for some reason, you and Gene felt it necessary to go On about paranoia last night. And that is why, if you don’t feel foolish, you should. 
 

That is the problem with pointing fingers at people without knowing anything about their lives. 

 

There you go again.  Another hoax. Who said I pointed fingers?  Maybe you're a bit paranoid about being called paranoid.  Not a lot of people know this, but if you're paranoid about being paranoid, then you are paranoid.  

Edited April 20, 2020 by SectionC3

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, SectionC3 said:

 

More fake logic from fake news SoCal Deek. 

 

The fed unemployment benefits are designed to take care of that.  And, for what it's worth, your logic has a flaw: simply reopening the economy doesn't mean that the "customers" will be there.  Because you know, like two thirds or so of them seem to think it's a bad idea and are less likely to consume at pre-pandemic levels.

 

You'll probably come back with "but some people don't get the unemployment!" Fair enough.  There are going to be some losers in this situation, and the approaches now (which, I note, have been articulated in significant part by the Trump Administration) are designed to cause the least amount of harm. 

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/03.16.20_coronavirus-guidance_8.5x11_315PM.pdf

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-extends-social-distancing-guidelines-april-30-predicts-great-things-n1171536

 

 

Oh come on! Where in the world do you think the government gets the MONEY to give it to the unemployed? The ignorance is absolutely breathtaking! 

[SectionC3]

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

Oh come on! Where in the world do you think the government gets the MONEY to give it to the unemployed? The ignorance is absolutely breathtaking! 

 

Hoax.  Right now they're printing it and borrowing it.  More fake logic from fake news SoCal Deek. 

[Chef Jim]

7 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Absolutely hilarious! And can you tell me where the millions of unemployed people are going to get the MONEY to go to your open GROCERY STORE???  ‘Let them eat cake?’ 

 

Get it right man. It’s now “let them eat ice cream” 

Just now, SectionC3 said:

 

Hoax.  Right now they're printing it and borrowing it.  More fake logic from fake news SoCal Deek. 

Yeah that $1,200 is going to go a long way. Why do you think people across the country are protesting to get back work?  

3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

There you go again.  Another hoax. Who said I pointed fingers?  Maybe you're a bit paranoid about being called paranoid.  

Hoax?  Did you not go on last night about the fact that I should be more concerned about my health than being attacked by an intruder?  

4 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Hoax.  Right now they're printing it and borrowing it. 

Is that a good thing?  

[SectionC3]

12 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

Get it right man. It’s now “let them eat ice cream” 

Yeah that $1,200 is going to go a long way. Why do you think people across the country are protesting to get back work?  

 

No more sarcasm here on my part.  Some of them are struggling, no doubt.  Some of them are bored.  Some are desperate.  Some don't believe the science.  And some are duped by the President.  There's no one-size fits all answer.

 

And there's no perfect answer to the horrible problems that we face as a country.   On my end, the smart money says that we have to hang tight for a little while longer for both the greater good and the long-term good.  But I get the struggle, I honestly do, and I get the frustration of those who are watching retirement savings evaporate and debt mount.  It's horrible.  

Edited April 20, 2020 by SectionC3