Big Turk Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Gugny said: No disrespect intended, here, but this mentality is a very big part of the overall problem. Viruses don't walk around spreading themselves. Which is exactly why you implement mass testing which gets the people who seem healthy but are actually infected off the streets. The problem is we have implemented something that is 25% effective but not the thing that is 75% effective, then are wondering why the hospitals are still being overrun like they have been in all the other countries that haven't done mass testing. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Especially when you watched other countries solve the problem by doing mass testing. Gee I wonder what we should be doing.... 1
CSBill Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 3 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: And the 13 on the wonderlic starts to make more sense. The Wonderlick total there is around 40, just below Fitz. 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 52 minutes ago, matter2003 said: I agree, but they really needed to start this in the big cities on the coasts which is where it started...the huge middle section of country was largely unaffected for a long time, which would have dramatically lessened the square mileage while still hitting the major population centers(outside of Chicago). NYC Population density: 26,100 people per sq mile Seoul Population density: 45,000 people per sq mile Seoul has close to double the population density as NYC which means the virus should have spread more rapidly there since people are literally on top of each other at almost double the rate NYC is...not saying this isn't valid to some degree but it would have been a much bigger issue in Seoul than it would have been in NYC... Also Seoul is an outright larger city than NYC coming in ranked 6th largest city in the world with a metro area of 25.5 million versus NYC's 19.3 million. Also I wouldn't make that claim about international traffic...in 2019 analyzing half year data, Seoul's Incheon Airport is 13th in the world in International Air Traffic at over 35 million people per year, JFK in NYC is 21st at 30 million... Additionally you see Frankfurt, Germany at 15th with 33.6 million passengers and Singapore with 33.1 million right behind Frankfurt at 16th...both ahead of NYC's busiest airport... Now, granted NYC has 3 huge airports, JFK, Laguardia and increasingly Newark but let's not make it out to be that these other airports have no traffic coming and going Korea and Singapore also have homogeneous populations that has been cooperative of the effort. Some ethnic/religious groups are still defying the lock down and quarantine mandates in NY/NJ. In Korea and Singapore they temperature test people entering the transit system and buildings with large groups of people working or assembling. NYC does not do this. I could go on. And for the life of me I cannot understand how any of the airports are still open to send potentially infected traveler across the country.
Big Turk Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 29 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Korea and Singapore also have homogeneous populations that has been cooperative of the effort. Some ethnic/religious groups are still defying the lock down and quarantine mandates in NY/NJ. In Korea and Singapore they temperature test people entering the transit system and buildings with large groups of people working or assembling. NYC does not do this. I could go on. And for the life of me I cannot understand how any of the airports are still open to send potentially infected traveler across the country. Yeah I have not understood the airports either...they are helping spread it as much as anything as if the virus cares whether its an international or domestic flight... Here is a story about how South Korea beat the virus without any lockdowns... https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-korea-coronavirus-response-142615105.html
aristocrat Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 balt has 10 mil in cap space...16 mil in dead cap surprisingly. 93 mil next year so they have the room to make this happen. that would be one big time offense.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 4 hours ago, matter2003 said: I get social distancing, but its not like 3 people that don't have it can suddenly infect each other. If they have been properly self-isolating and don't have symptoms then the chances are pretty high that none of them have it. Now to what degree that is happening I don't know. The problem here is ..... Please limit general covid-19 discussion (testing/what happened to it/why we aren't testing) to the several covid-19 threads in Off-the-wall and (if you roll that way) PPP. I agree with the point that we don't know enough to pronounce on whether the 3 of them are foolish or not - if they are (for example) sharing a house as Kyle Allen and Josh Allen are, or otherwise functioning as an isolated social unit, it really shouldn't be a problem. If, in addition, they are each interacting separately with a network of friends and relatives who are each interacting with other friends and relatives, then it's not too smart, and the photo is kind of sending a wrong message. 4 hours ago, JohnC said: If they are symptom free and get tested wouldn't the test indicate whether they are infected or not? If that is the case then assuming that they are virus free and quarantining themselves in the off hours then why are they at risk or putting anyone else at risk? Not necessarily. If you're symptom free, it could mean you haven't developed the illness yet, in which case you might not have enough virus to be detectable on the test. 1
Gugny Posted April 2, 2020 Author Posted April 2, 2020 And here I thought I created a thread about how stupid Lamar and his friends are.
Don Otreply Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 The lack of movement on a federal level back in January when our own doctors and specialists first informed our federal government is why we are playing catch-up at this point. We lost almost two months of time just getting our leaders to take this seriously, and get the ball rolling. This has been a botched job from the get go. I hope those guys don’t get infected it would be horrible for them and their families. Stay healthy Bills Nation!!!
Reed83HOF Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Gugny said: And here I thought I created a thread about how stupid Lamar and his friends are. apparently you are the stupid one. What was your wonderlic? 1
Gugny Posted April 2, 2020 Author Posted April 2, 2020 Just now, Reed83HOF said: apparently you are the stupid one. What was your wonderlic? 13.1 1 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 46 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Yeah I have not understood the airports either...they are helping spread it as much as anything as if the virus cares whether its an international or domestic flight... Here is a story about how South Korea beat the virus without any lockdowns... https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-korea-coronavirus-response-142615105.html The other thing S. Korea has going for them was they did not outsource almost their entire medication/device supply chain to countries like China. So when we needed additional test kits and materials there was none to be found domestically. This is being addressed now but the window of opportunity to suppress the outbreak has passed. When all this finally resolves I suspect the entire globalization and outsourcing work to other countries is going to suffer some massive political and social backlash. With hope we get some football this fall and a return to somewhat "normal" life.
BobChalmers Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 (edited) You know those masks the CDC and WHO told us we don't need? S. Korea, Japan, Malaysia - they wear them. Now look at the stats again. The "experts" are going to get bitten on this one - they were BS-ing everyone because they were afraid of shortages for the medical folks - somewhat understandable but they won't recover their reputations for lying about it. Edited April 2, 2020 by BobChalmers
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