For those that want a RB in the first few rounds

[Virgil]

I’m probably going to regret this post as it even sounds dumb in my head to a degree, but that’s means it’s perfect for the offseason. 
 

There’s a lot of talk about the Bills getting a RB in rounds 2-4 in April’s draft.  In recent years, your top 3 runningbacks might fall into that range and there’s some serious studs in this years draft.  
 

With that....

 

Does anyone worry about bringing in a guy that could also be a full blown, every down back in with Singletary?   I am of the camp that RB’s need to get into a rhythm throughout a game.  Look at Derrick Henry.  He doesn’t just knock people over out of the gate.  He builds abs builds until he starts busting off long runs in the second half.  
 

Also, I worry about confidence to a certain degree.  Motor isn’t a seasoned vet.  You want people out there who know they are “the guy”.
 

That’s pretty much all I’ve got.  Feel free to tell me how they are all millionaires and there’s no crying in baseball  

[blacklabel]

Nah, I wouldn't worry about that. McDermott's program is all about doing your part. They want a balanced team full of players that compliment each other well. When your number is called, go do your job, simple as that. I'm sure if they had a situation where one guy became the hot hand, they'd roll with him for most of the game. But we know McDermott really loves his rotations and keeping guys fresh. 

 

And for the most part, the days of the 25+ carries a game/workhorse type of back are over. Unless you're Derrick Henry, most teams feature two backs with either a pretty even split on snap counts or a lead guy who goes for 70-75% of the snaps and steps out when he needs a breath. That's mah best guess anyway. Been sitting around the house going on two weeks now, my daily routine is all jacked up and I think my brain is going to mush so my opinion could be as valuable as a poopy-flavored lollypop at this point. 

[Lurker]

All I know is I want an RB2 who doesn't miss a beat and executes the same offense as RB1 with virtually no drop off.    Not like Gore, who literrally wasted downs during the second half of the season...

[DCbillsfan]

Depends on how McD and Beane view Singletary.  Do they think he can be the primary back or does he share the role?They might want to upgrade the position as well.  I like Singletary but they may want more.  

 

The Bills roster is pretty much filled out.  RB and CB are the only spots where I could see a rookie make any kind of significant impact this year.  Everyone else is gonna sit for the most part imo.

[Bangarang]

Just draft good players and the best ones will play. If we draft a RB that deserves to get the bulk of the carries right away then so be it. Singletary can be a quality #2. I don’t see how this is a problem.

[Logic]

22 minutes ago, Virgil said:

I’m probably going to regret this post as it even sounds dumb in my head to a degree, but that’s means it’s perfect for the offseason. 
 

There’s a lot of talk about the Bills getting a RB in rounds 2-4 in April’s draft.  In recent years, your top 3 runningbacks might fall into that range and there’s some serious studs in this years draft.  
 

With that....

 

Does anyone worry about bringing in a guy that could also be a full blown, every down back in with Singletary?   I am of the camp that RB’s need to get into a rhythm throughout a game.  Look at Derrick Henry.  He doesn’t just knock people over out of the gate.  He builds abs builds until he starts busting off long runs in the second half.  
 

Also, I worry about confidence to a certain degree.  Motor isn’t a seasoned vet.  You want people out there who know they are “the guy”.
 

That’s pretty much all I’ve got.  Feel free to tell me how they are all millionaires and there’s no crying in baseball  

I hear what you're saying, but it doesn't concern me.

I look at New England, for instance. Last year, obviously, they weren't so great on offense. In the couple of years prior to that, though, it seemed like the amount of carries given to each back varied from game to game. If they were facing a lighter, faster defense, they'd pound it between the tackles with Michel. If they were facing bigger, slower linebackers, they'd toss it in the flats all day to James White or Rex Burkhead.

I want variety in the running game. I want a short yardage back not named Josh Allen. I want someone who, if 5 foot 7 Devin Singletary misses a stretch of games, can sub in and the offense won't miss a beat.

Attitude/confidence wise, I believe Beane and McDermott have been brining in team-first guys, not me-first guys, so that part doesn't concern me.

[Dopey]

Not worried about Devin's confidence. May the best man win.

[Florida Bills Fanatic]

I don't think you started a dumb post.  It's good to think about the situation facing Beane so that we understand his options and don't bounce off the walls crazy when he adds a particular RB in the draft.

In recent years, coaches have come to recognize that it is highly improbable that a single RB will hold up physically to the full season long load of a typical NFL offense.  They also recognize that the second guy better be very capable and not just a guy.  The offense can't collapse if one guy is injured. Teams also understand that it is really good if the second guy is not a complete clone of the first guy.  That's why we see teams with a power guy paired with a back that is more elusive.  On the best teams, they make sure that both backs can run routes and catch the ball.  

When the team plays against a team that isn't good against a power running game, they lean on the power back.  When they play against a slow or undisciplined defense, the elusive guy may carry most of the load.  I think about the approach of the 49ers, Houston, Cleveland, and Chargers last season.  I'd be okay if Beane creates a talented two back rotation as long as they are effective.  Thanks for starting the discussion.

[Virgil]

18 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said:

The Bills roster is pretty much filled out.  RB and CB are the only spots where I could see a rookie make any kind of significant impact this year.  Everyone else is gonna sit for the most part imo.

Can someone please explain this to to me about or DB issue that many think we have?

 

Tre, Wallace, Neal should be our 3 starters   
 

Then, if any of them pan out Normal, Gaines, and Johnson. 
 

Where’s the gap exactly?  
 

The only thing I can think is people are afraid of losing Wallace and you are drafting for next year?   But then, draft them next year.  Anyone you bring in over the first 3 rounds should be a starter and I don’t know when this rookie would play. I’m really looking forward to Neal in training camp as he showed great flashes last year.  I don’t see Wallace losing his job.  

[MJS]

To be honest I'd be fine if we bring in guys off the street throughout the season to play RB 2 or 3. Yeldon is fine. We'd get through the season just fine without a high end RB2. I want to see what Singletary can do as the true #1.

 

RB is such a devalued position that you can pickup quality guys off waivers and in the bottom rounds of the draft. People are acting like we need a 1st or 2nd round RB and I think that's not true. Daboll comes from NE where they have been playing a bunch of no name RB's effectively for decades.

 

But yeah, it would be nice to have a stud #2. But that means you are sacrificing in some other area. I'd rather have a stud #2 CB, or a potential offensive line starter, or LB depth. I'd want those positions prioritized over RB in the draft.

2 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Can someone please explain this to to me about or DB issue that many think we have?

 

Tre, Wallace, Neal should be our 3 starters   
 

Then, if any of them pan out Normal, Gaines, and Johnson. 
 

Where’s the gap exactly?  
 

The only thing I can think is people are afraid of losing Wallace and you are drafting for next year?   But then, draft them next year.  Anyone you bring in over the first 3 rounds should be a starter and I don’t know when this rookie would play. I’m really looking forward to Neal in training camp as he showed great flashes last year.  I don’t see Wallace losing his job.  

I don't think there is a hole, personally, but CB is definately one of those positions where you can never have enough talent. Having two studs at CB is really nice. Right now we have one stud and after that there's a decent drop off, which is fine.

[Augie]

24 minutes ago, Logic said:

I hear what you're saying, but it doesn't concern me.

I look at New England, for instance. Last year, obviously, they weren't so great on offense. In the couple of years prior to that, though, it seemed like the amount of carries given to each back varied from game to game. If they were facing a lighter, faster defense, they'd pound it between the tackles with Michel. If they were facing bigger, slower linebackers, they'd toss it in the flats all day to James White or Rex Burkhead.

I want variety in the running game. I want a short yardage back not named Josh Allen. I want someone who, if 5 foot 7 Devin Singletary misses a stretch of games, can sub in and the offense won't miss a beat.

Attitude/confidence wise, I believe Beane and McDermott have been brining in team-first guys, not me-first guys, so that part doesn't concern me.

 

Singletary WILL need a break, and probably miss some games for some reason. We need a legit guy to carry on.  I also like the idea of versatility and being able to attack in different ways, depending upon what we are facing. With no other seriously pressing needs, get that solid RB2 so we don’t miss a beat. 

[Rocky Landing]

1 hour ago, Virgil said:

I’m probably going to regret this post as it even sounds dumb in my head to a degree, but that’s means it’s perfect for the offseason. 
 

There’s a lot of talk about the Bills getting a RB in rounds 2-4 in April’s draft.  In recent years, your top 3 runningbacks might fall into that range and there’s some serious studs in this years draft.  
 

With that....

 

Does anyone worry about bringing in a guy that could also be a full blown, every down back in with Singletary?   I am of the camp that RB’s need to get into a rhythm throughout a game.  Look at Derrick Henry.  He doesn’t just knock people over out of the gate.  He builds abs builds until he starts busting off long runs in the second half.  
 

Also, I worry about confidence to a certain degree.  Motor isn’t a seasoned vet.  You want people out there who know they are “the guy”.
 

That’s pretty much all I’ve got.  Feel free to tell me how they are all millionaires and there’s no crying in baseball  

If Motor can't handle the competition, then he shouldn't be in the NFL. But, I suspect he can handle it,

[Prospector]

I would be all for getting one of the top 4 if they are available when we pick in the second. Swift, Dobbins, Taylor, or Edwards-Helaire... They all look OUTSTANDING! If they are gone, I can see either a DB or WR as the pick. But those top 4 RBs are ridiculously good!

[ALLEN1QB]

Sounds dumb in my head too! Lol

[jwhit34]

The approach is so different now given the devaluation of the position, the fact that probably 25+ teams do not have a Derrick Henry type and the shelf life is limited (4-6 years in most instances). 

 

I think the way to build the RB position is to draft one in rounds 2-5 pretty much every year. You're not going to hit on all of them. Right now drafting one in round 2 or 3 make sense because the team is thin at the position. If they hit on another one like it appears they did on SIngletary then they can go with the those 2 plus Yeldon this year. 

 

If that works out then in '21 Singletary is the vet, you have the guy you drafted in year 2 and they can probably wait until rounds 4-5 to get RB3. 

 

This approach keeps the money spent on the position pretty low (you have 2-3 guys drafted in rounds 2-4 on rookie contracts for 4 years) and if you get in a bind you can always find a vet in free agency that will be pretty reasonable financially. 

 

But I like the thought that you draft one in the middle rounds every year. 

[Orlando Buffalo]

I am not concerned at all if we have two every down backs. If we get to the point where we have two top 12 RB we can put both on the field at once and let the Defense choose which running back is the real threat that play. Can you imagine a D coordinator planning for our three receivers, two RB, and then our TE's? The only position where having clear starter/backup is QB. anyone else as much talent as possible.

[Happy]

49 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Can someone please explain this to to me about or DB issue that many think we have?

 

Tre, Wallace, Neal should be our 3 starters   
 

Then, if any of them pan out Normal, Gaines, and Johnson. 
 

Where’s the gap exactly?  

 

I don't see that there is a gap, or problem, in the defensive backfield, nor do I think it should be addressed in the draft this year.

 

I do think that RB is a bit thin.  They didn't seem to trust Yeldon and Gore saw way too much action, especially toward the end of the season.  So I would like to see us draft a compliment to Singletary, in the idea of a Derrick Henry type back.  The more options you have on offense gives you a better chance of exposing different opponent defensive vulnerabilities.  Now having an OC that realizes this and can make intelligent play calls is a different issue all together...

[Cal]

AJ Dillon from BC would complement Singletary. Should be able to get him in 3-4

[Gugny]

2 hours ago, Virgil said:

I’m probably going to regret this post as it even sounds dumb in my head to a degree, but that’s means it’s perfect for the offseason. 
 

There’s a lot of talk about the Bills getting a RB in rounds 2-4 in April’s draft.  In recent years, your top 3 runningbacks might fall into that range and there’s some serious studs in this years draft.  
 

With that....

 

Does anyone worry about bringing in a guy that could also be a full blown, every down back in with Singletary?   I am of the camp that RB’s need to get into a rhythm throughout a game.  Look at Derrick Henry.  He doesn’t just knock people over out of the gate.  He builds abs builds until he starts busting off long runs in the second half.  
 

Also, I worry about confidence to a certain degree.  Motor isn’t a seasoned vet.  You want people out there who know they are “the guy”.
 

That’s pretty much all I’ve got.  Feel free to tell me how they are all millionaires and there’s no crying in baseball  

 

Singletary is fine.  Daboll is the problem.

 

5.1 yards per carry and Daboll inexplicably shuts him down.

 

We don't need an early round RB.  We need an OC who knows how to use the RB we drafted in the 3rd round last year.

[NewEra]

I am of the camp that thinks McD prefers a committee and will go with one as long as he has the talent for it.  Hell, he went with a committee last season and only had 1 viable rb