KRC Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 The way they treat broccoli is horrific. All stacked up and bunched together. Go ahead vegans eat your stalks of death. 307755[/snapback] Carrots are the same way. They are just there, minding their own business until they are brutally taken from their homes, packaged and shipped to the stores. Who the hell is going to stand up for the defenseless carrot? Don't even get me started on the brutality that befalls lettuce. They way it is senselessly cut up into pieces for salads. It's a crime, I tell you. A CRIME!!!
Thailog80 Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 Carrots are the same way. They are just there, minding their own business until they are brutally taken from their homes, packaged and shipped to the stores. Who the hell is going to stand up for the defenseless carrot? Don't even get me started on the brutality that befalls lettuce. They way it is senselessly cut up into pieces for salads. It's a crime, I tell you. A CRIME!!! 307764[/snapback] Not to mention the ones who are FROZEN ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IDBillzFan Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 Carrots are the same way. They are just there, minding their own business until they are brutally taken from their homes, packaged and shipped to the stores. Who the hell is going to stand up for the defenseless carrot? Don't even get me started on the brutality that befalls lettuce. They way it is senselessly cut up into pieces for salads. It's a crime, I tell you. A CRIME!!! 307764[/snapback] I like eating my KFC with a side order of pretzels.
Movinon Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 And the indignity that corn suffers – for chrisake, the husks is brutally pealed away and than they are either dropped in a pot of boiling water or worst yet slowly roasted on an open flame.
Thailog80 Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 And the indignity that corn suffers – for chrisake, the husks is brutally pealed away and than they are either dropped in a pot of boiling water or worst yet slowly roasted on an open flame. 307784[/snapback] Only to end up in a steaming pile.....undigested.
ch19079 Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 linkThey were campaigning for more humane methods of killing. 307336[/snapback] there is no "ethical"way to kill something. its simply killing it. if you have a problem with the killing than fight to turn everyone in to a pansy vegetarian. lets go crazy and compair this to capital punishment. people want to kill someone. but they have to do it "ethicaly". people find a bigger problem in the method of killing than they do the actual act of killing.
Surfmeister Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 there is no "ethical"way to kill something. its simply killing it. if you have a problem with the killing than fight to turn everyone in to a pansy vegetarian.lets go crazy and compair this to capital punishment. people want to kill someone. but they have to do it "ethicaly". people find a bigger problem in the method of killing than they do the actual act of killing. 307803[/snapback] Here's a list of pansies starting with Marv Levy >> Hank Aaron (home run champion in major league baseball) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian B J Armstrong (US Basketball star) Al Beckles (body builder) Sorya Bonali (ice skater) Les Brown (veteran runner) Peter Burwash (tennis) Andreas Cahling (body builder) Andreas Cahling (bodybuilder) Chris Campbell (1980 world champion wrestler) Joanna Conway (ice skater) Sylvia Cranston (triathlete) Sally Eastall (Marathon runner - UK No 2, vegan) Di Edwards (runner, Olympic semi-finalist) Katie Fitzgibbon (marathon runner) Clare Francis (sailer) Louis Freitas (body builder) Carol Gould (marathon runner) Estelle Gray (cyclist) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Sammy Green (runner) Ruth Heidrich (3-time Ironman finisher, marathoner, age-group record holder, Pres. Vegetarian Society of Honolulu) (vegan) Source: personal acquaintance, also...her book--A Race for Life Sally Hibberd (British Women's Mountain Bike Champion) Sharon Hounsell (Miss Wales Bodybuilding Champion) Desmond Howard (formerly w/Washington Redskins, now w/Jacksonville Jaguars) Source: PETA mailer Roger Hughes (Welsh National Ski Champion) David Johnson (BAA coach) Kathy Johnson (Olympic Gymnast) Alan Jones (British ski jumper) Billie Jean King (tennis champion) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Killer Kowalski (wrestler) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Jack LaLanne (Fitness guru) (vegan) Donnie LaLonde (Former Light Heavyweight Champion of the World. (Lost title to Sugar Ray Leonard)) Source: Article in San Jose Mercury News Tony LaRussa (Manager of St. Louis Cardinals - US team) Source: PETA, Animals Agenda, Animals Voice, Veg Times, others Silken Laumann (Olympic rower) Source: Cooking Television Show Judy Leden (British, European & World Hang Gliding champion) Marv Levey (Buffalo Bills Coach) Jutta Müller (multiple Windsurfing World Cup Champion) Source: Flutlicht 95/6/18 on Südwest 3 (German TV program) Jack Maitland (triathlete and fell runner) Cheryl Marek (cyclist) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Leslie Marx (fencer;1996 woman's epee national champion) Kirsty McDermott (runner) Lindford McFarquar (body builder) Robert Millar (cyclist) Katherine Monbiot (world champion arm wrestler and nutritionist) (vegan) Source: The Vegan Society UK Monika Montsho (weightlifter, 2 x runnerup GB Championships 60kg, NW woman weightlifter of the year 1991) Edwin Moses Martina Navratilova (Retired Tennis Champion) Source: Magazine Interviews/Genesis Awards Julie Ann Niewiek (Basketball commentator) Source: Grand Rapids press/ Image Magazine Paavo Nurmi Robert Parish (Center - Warriors, Celtics, Hornets, Bulls) Source: Hearsay Bill Pearl (Bodybuilder, Mr America) Source: Getting Stronger by Bill Pearl, pg 399 Bill Pearl (Mr. Universe and bodybuilder) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Anthony Peeler (NBA Grizzlies basketball player) Source: NBA web site profiles Dave Scott (five time winner of the Ironman Triathlon) (vegan) "The New Laurel's Kitchen" cookbook Debbie Spaeth-Herring (Georgia State power-lifter) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Jonathon Speelman (chess) Lucy Stephens (triathlete - vegan) Jacques Vaughn (All American point guard, #1-ranked Univ of KS Jayhawks) Source: Lawrence (KS) Journal World (numerous editions) Kirsty Wade (runner) Bill Walton (basketball player) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Hank Aaron (home run champion in major league baseball) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian B J Armstrong (US Basketball star) Al Beckles (body builder) Sorya Bonali (ice skater) Les Brown (veteran runner) Peter Burwash (tennis) Andreas Cahling (body builder) Andreas Cahling (bodybuilder) Chris Campbell (1980 world champion wrestler) Joanna Conway (ice skater) Sylvia Cranston (triathlete) Sally Eastall (Marathon runner - UK No 2, vegan) Di Edwards (runner, Olympic semi-finalist) Katie Fitzgibbon (marathon runner) Clare Francis (sailer) Louis Freitas (body builder) Carol Gould (marathon runner) Estelle Gray (cyclist) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Sammy Green (runner) Ruth Heidrich (3-time Ironman finisher, marathoner, age-group record holder, Pres. Vegetarian Society of Honolulu) (vegan) Source: personal acquaintance, also...her book--A Race for Life Sally Hibberd (British Women's Mountain Bike Champion) Sharon Hounsell (Miss Wales Bodybuilding Champion) Desmond Howard (formerly w/Washington Redskins, now w/Jacksonville Jaguars) Source: PETA mailer Roger Hughes (Welsh National Ski Champion) David Johnson (BAA coach) Kathy Johnson (Olympic Gymnast) Alan Jones (British ski jumper) Billie Jean King (tennis champion) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Killer Kowalski (wrestler) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Jack LaLanne (Fitness guru) (vegan) Donnie LaLonde (Former Light Heavyweight Champion of the World. (Lost title to Sugar Ray Leonard)) Source: Article in San Jose Mercury News Tony LaRussa (Manager of St. Louis Cardinals - US team) Source: PETA, Animals Agenda, Animals Voice, Veg Times, others Silken Laumann (Olympic rower) Source: Cooking Television Show Judy Leden (British, European & World Hang Gliding champion) Marv Levey (Buffalo Bills Coach) Jutta Müller (multiple Windsurfing World Cup Champion) Source: Flutlicht 95/6/18 on Südwest 3 (German TV program) Jack Maitland (triathlete and fell runner) Cheryl Marek (cyclist) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Leslie Marx (fencer;1996 woman's epee national champion) Kirsty McDermott (runner) Lindford McFarquar (body builder) Robert Millar (cyclist) Katherine Monbiot (world champion arm wrestler and nutritionist) (vegan) Source: The Vegan Society UK Monika Montsho (weightlifter, 2 x runnerup GB Championships 60kg, NW woman weightlifter of the year 1991) Edwin Moses Martina Navratilova (Retired Tennis Champion) Source: Magazine Interviews/Genesis Awards Julie Ann Niewiek (Basketball commentator) Source: Grand Rapids press/ Image Magazine Paavo Nurmi Robert Parish (Center - Warriors, Celtics, Hornets, Bulls) Source: Hearsay Bill Pearl (Bodybuilder, Mr America) Source: Getting Stronger by Bill Pearl, pg 399 Bill Pearl (Mr. Universe and bodybuilder) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Anthony Peeler (NBA Grizzlies basketball player) Source: NBA web site profiles Dave Scott (five time winner of the Ironman Triathlon) (vegan) "The New Laurel's Kitchen" cookbook Debbie Spaeth-Herring (Georgia State power-lifter) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Jonathon Speelman (chess) Lucy Stephens (triathlete - vegan) Jacques Vaughn (All American point guard, #1-ranked Univ of KS Jayhawks) Source: Lawrence (KS) Journal World (numerous editions) Kirsty Wade (runner) Bill Walton (basketball player) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 Fug KFC. Go ahead and cheer for them, real nice. What they do to animals is more than inhumane - it's a crime. Take a peruse through some of the expose journalism that's been written about the chicken conditions at KFC - absolutely horrid and disgusting. And if you eat their products, you're ingesting some seriously negative karma. 307599[/snapback] Wah.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 Bill Walton (basketball player) 307808[/snapback] Bill Walton? BILL FUGGIN' WALTON? Major Tom himself? Talk about a fruitcake.
Coach Tuesday Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 there is no "ethical"way to kill something. You couldn't be more wrong or less enlightened, but that's your prerogative. Every major religion happens to disagree with you, as do most coherent philosophical discourses on the subject.
USMCBillsFan Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 Here's a list of pansies starting with Marv Levy >> Marv Levey (Buffalo Bills Coach) 307808[/snapback] Could've spelled his name right.
Movinon Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 If God didn’t want us to eat chicken he wouldn’t have made them so finger licking good.
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 Here's a list of pansies starting with Marv Levy >> Hank Aaron (home run champion in major league baseball) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian B J Armstrong (US Basketball star) Al Beckles (body builder) Sorya Bonali (ice skater) Les Brown (veteran runner) Peter Burwash (tennis) Andreas Cahling (body builder) Andreas Cahling (bodybuilder) Chris Campbell (1980 world champion wrestler) Joanna Conway (ice skater) Sylvia Cranston (triathlete) Sally Eastall (Marathon runner - UK No 2, vegan) Di Edwards (runner, Olympic semi-finalist) Katie Fitzgibbon (marathon runner) Clare Francis (sailer) Louis Freitas (body builder) Carol Gould (marathon runner) Estelle Gray (cyclist) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Sammy Green (runner) Ruth Heidrich (3-time Ironman finisher, marathoner, age-group record holder, Pres. Vegetarian Society of Honolulu) (vegan) Source: personal acquaintance, also...her book--A Race for Life Sally Hibberd (British Women's Mountain Bike Champion) Sharon Hounsell (Miss Wales Bodybuilding Champion) Desmond Howard (formerly w/Washington Redskins, now w/Jacksonville Jaguars) Source: PETA mailer Roger Hughes (Welsh National Ski Champion) David Johnson (BAA coach) Kathy Johnson (Olympic Gymnast) Alan Jones (British ski jumper) Billie Jean King (tennis champion) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Killer Kowalski (wrestler) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Jack LaLanne (Fitness guru) (vegan) Donnie LaLonde (Former Light Heavyweight Champion of the World. (Lost title to Sugar Ray Leonard)) Source: Article in San Jose Mercury News Tony LaRussa (Manager of St. Louis Cardinals - US team) Source: PETA, Animals Agenda, Animals Voice, Veg Times, others Silken Laumann (Olympic rower) Source: Cooking Television Show Judy Leden (British, European & World Hang Gliding champion) Marv Levey (Buffalo Bills Coach) Jutta Müller (multiple Windsurfing World Cup Champion) Source: Flutlicht 95/6/18 on Südwest 3 (German TV program) Jack Maitland (triathlete and fell runner) Cheryl Marek (cyclist) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Leslie Marx (fencer;1996 woman's epee national champion) Kirsty McDermott (runner) Lindford McFarquar (body builder) Robert Millar (cyclist) Katherine Monbiot (world champion arm wrestler and nutritionist) (vegan) Source: The Vegan Society UK Monika Montsho (weightlifter, 2 x runnerup GB Championships 60kg, NW woman weightlifter of the year 1991) Edwin Moses Martina Navratilova (Retired Tennis Champion) Source: Magazine Interviews/Genesis Awards Julie Ann Niewiek (Basketball commentator) Source: Grand Rapids press/ Image Magazine Paavo Nurmi Robert Parish (Center - Warriors, Celtics, Hornets, Bulls) Source: Hearsay Bill Pearl (Bodybuilder, Mr America) Source: Getting Stronger by Bill Pearl, pg 399 Bill Pearl (Mr. Universe and bodybuilder) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Anthony Peeler (NBA Grizzlies basketball player) Source: NBA web site profiles Dave Scott (five time winner of the Ironman Triathlon) (vegan) "The New Laurel's Kitchen" cookbook Debbie Spaeth-Herring (Georgia State power-lifter) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Jonathon Speelman (chess) Lucy Stephens (triathlete - vegan) Jacques Vaughn (All American point guard, #1-ranked Univ of KS Jayhawks) Source: Lawrence (KS) Journal World (numerous editions) Kirsty Wade (runner) Bill Walton (basketball player) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Hank Aaron (home run champion in major league baseball) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian B J Armstrong (US Basketball star) Al Beckles (body builder) Sorya Bonali (ice skater) Les Brown (veteran runner) Peter Burwash (tennis) Andreas Cahling (body builder) Andreas Cahling (bodybuilder) Chris Campbell (1980 world champion wrestler) Joanna Conway (ice skater) Sylvia Cranston (triathlete) Sally Eastall (Marathon runner - UK No 2, vegan) Di Edwards (runner, Olympic semi-finalist) Katie Fitzgibbon (marathon runner) Clare Francis (sailer) Louis Freitas (body builder) Carol Gould (marathon runner) Estelle Gray (cyclist) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Sammy Green (runner) Ruth Heidrich (3-time Ironman finisher, marathoner, age-group record holder, Pres. Vegetarian Society of Honolulu) (vegan) Source: personal acquaintance, also...her book--A Race for Life Sally Hibberd (British Women's Mountain Bike Champion) Sharon Hounsell (Miss Wales Bodybuilding Champion) Desmond Howard (formerly w/Washington Redskins, now w/Jacksonville Jaguars) Source: PETA mailer Roger Hughes (Welsh National Ski Champion) David Johnson (BAA coach) Kathy Johnson (Olympic Gymnast) Alan Jones (British ski jumper) Billie Jean King (tennis champion) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Killer Kowalski (wrestler) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Jack LaLanne (Fitness guru) (vegan) Donnie LaLonde (Former Light Heavyweight Champion of the World. (Lost title to Sugar Ray Leonard)) Source: Article in San Jose Mercury News Tony LaRussa (Manager of St. Louis Cardinals - US team) Source: PETA, Animals Agenda, Animals Voice, Veg Times, others Silken Laumann (Olympic rower) Source: Cooking Television Show Judy Leden (British, European & World Hang Gliding champion) Marv Levey (Buffalo Bills Coach) Jutta Müller (multiple Windsurfing World Cup Champion) Source: Flutlicht 95/6/18 on Südwest 3 (German TV program) Jack Maitland (triathlete and fell runner) Cheryl Marek (cyclist) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Leslie Marx (fencer;1996 woman's epee national champion) Kirsty McDermott (runner) Lindford McFarquar (body builder) Robert Millar (cyclist) Katherine Monbiot (world champion arm wrestler and nutritionist) (vegan) Source: The Vegan Society UK Monika Montsho (weightlifter, 2 x runnerup GB Championships 60kg, NW woman weightlifter of the year 1991) Edwin Moses Martina Navratilova (Retired Tennis Champion) Source: Magazine Interviews/Genesis Awards Julie Ann Niewiek (Basketball commentator) Source: Grand Rapids press/ Image Magazine Paavo Nurmi Robert Parish (Center - Warriors, Celtics, Hornets, Bulls) Source: Hearsay Bill Pearl (Bodybuilder, Mr America) Source: Getting Stronger by Bill Pearl, pg 399 Bill Pearl (Mr. Universe and bodybuilder) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Anthony Peeler (NBA Grizzlies basketball player) Source: NBA web site profiles Dave Scott (five time winner of the Ironman Triathlon) (vegan) "The New Laurel's Kitchen" cookbook Debbie Spaeth-Herring (Georgia State power-lifter) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian Jonathon Speelman (chess) Lucy Stephens (triathlete - vegan) Jacques Vaughn (All American point guard, #1-ranked Univ of KS Jayhawks) Source: Lawrence (KS) Journal World (numerous editions) Kirsty Wade (runner) Bill Walton (basketball player) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian 307808[/snapback] Then again, none of the people listed above either have big jugs or look good in a bikini.
RunTheBall Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 I don't have a problem with vegetarians, eat whatever the hell you like. Just don't go pulling the moral trump card as you walk around in your fine leather jacket, belt, and shoes. Most vegetarians I know who make an issue out of it are hyprocrits in that respect. I love veal, the less that little dude moves the better. Chickens are the wildebeast of the western world. Their sole purpose in life is to act as food for the rest of the chain. RTB
Fezmid Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 And the indignity that corn suffers – for chrisake, the husks is brutally pealed away and than they are either dropped in a pot of boiling water or worst yet slowly roasted on an open flame. 307784[/snapback] And to make matters worse, isn't the corn fed to the chickens??? In essence, it's being killed twice. Becoming vegetarian was one of the best decisions I've ever made So you're a Bills fan, but you don't eat Wings...? A life without wings (especially ones from the CNJBBB) just isn't worth living, with or without good karma. CW
Fezmid Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 I don't have a problem with vegetarians, eat whatever the hell you like. Just don't go pulling the moral trump card as you walk around in your fine leather jacket, belt, and shoes. Most vegetarians I know who make an issue out of it are hyprocrits in that respect. 307838[/snapback] I actually have a couple of friends who are vegetarians and they avoid leather products as well. One of them won't even ride in my car due to the all-leather interior (the other doesn't mind). CW
KRC Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 Then again, none of the people listed above either have big jugs or look good in a bikini. 307837[/snapback] It would also be a little more impressive if the list were not copied twice, along with some people being listed twice within the smaller list.
RunTheBall Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 I actually have a couple of friends who are vegetarians and they avoid leather products as well. One of them won't even ride in my car due to the all-leather interior (the other doesn't mind). CW 307842[/snapback] That's cool. I don't have a problem with them taking what they feel is a moral stand as long as its consistent. For those vegetarians who don't make it a moral issue and just don't eat meat, all the more fur to 'em. RTB
Bill from NYC Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 You couldn't be more wrong or less enlightened, but that's your prerogative. Every major religion happens to disagree with you, as do most coherent philosophical discourses on the subject. 307820[/snapback] I fully respect your choice to not eat meat. It IS inhumane. How do you feel about abortion?
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted April 18, 2005 Posted April 18, 2005 I actually have a couple of friends who are vegetarians and they avoid leather products as well. One of them won't even ride in my car due to the all-leather interior (the other doesn't mind). CW 307842[/snapback] On the other hand, if they were "true" vegetarians they would not use aspirin, penicillin, allergy medicines or thousands of other drugs that are tested on animals.
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