Another Fan Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 I’m in no way comparing COVID-19 to football but sometimes you do find out a lot about people under bad times/stress. For as poor as 2018 was, McDermott never lost the team when they were still trying and at times struggling to find their way. He never lost focus on “the process” either. Though Im probably guilty of laughing at some Trust The Process gags that year. By the final game that year against the Dolphins most fans saw the team was going on the right direction. The foundation had been set for 2019 and beyond 1
Mr. WEO Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 "Lose the team" in his second year, after their 1st playoff season of the century? 1
LABILLBACKER Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 He's the best coach we've had in a very long time. His philosophy is perfect for this city and the players. He's not without some fixable flaws in game and time management. And hopefully his conservative nature doesn't get reflected too much on the promising future of our offense. This probably will be the best qb/hc/gm combo we've had since Jim, Marv and Bill. Very optimistic times especially with Diggs. 2
Another Fan Posted March 25, 2020 Author Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: "Lose the team" in his second year, after their 1st playoff season of the century? People can have short memories. I mean there was some ugly games that year. For instance the 47-10 loss to the Bears 1
Mojo44 Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 No kidding there were some bad games! This was not a very talented team. I think you’re missing the point of the thread with what I consider to be a nitpick. They got into the playoffs that you’re primarily because of great coaching and the defense that played its heart out for the last few games. Remember, the team was led by an absolute loser of a quarterback who couldn’t even lead the team to a fourth quarter touchdown for the last five games of the season when they badly needed it. They also got some luck, obviously, to get in.
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 Vontae walking in Week 2 IIRC, and becoming the laughingstock of the league yet again as a franchise, and suddenly 2 years later and word on the free agent street is Buffalo's where you want to be? Yep, fully agree with OP. Sean keeping the team playing hard throughout that year and pulling out 6 wins from a squad that arguably was XFL level starting quality, is saying something. 6
Mr. WEO Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Another Fan said: People can have short memories. I mean there was some ugly games that year. For instance the 47-10 loss to the Bears New rookie QB, 1 year after playoffs. There were new guys starting. There was no chance at any time during that season that McD was at risk of losing the team. I don't agree that that makes sense. Did he lose the team this year when, after starting 6-3, they lost to the Browns and then lost 3 of their last 4? Nope.
Mr. WEO Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Vontae walking in Week 2 IIRC, and becoming the laughingstock of the league yet again as a franchise, and suddenly 2 years later and word on the free agent street is Buffalo's where you want to be? Yep, fully agree with OP. Sean keeping the team playing hard throughout that year and pulling out 6 wins from a squad that arguably was XFL level starting quality, is saying something. Allen, McCoy, McCloud, Dimarco, Foster, Croom, McKenzie, Hyde, Poyer, Edmunds, Milano, White, Lorax, Hughes, Kyle, Harris and Jordan Phillips, Murphy, Star---most are still there. Zay Jones even had 652 yards and 7 TDs.
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 Be thankful we got him, Sean gets A lot of respect from his peers around the league. I hope he is here for a long time.
jletha Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Another Fan said: People can have short memories. I mean there was some ugly games that year. For instance the 47-10 loss to the Bears Green Bay.
MJS Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Allen, McCoy, McCloud, Dimarco, Foster, Croom, McKenzie, Hyde, Poyer, Edmunds, Milano, White, Lorax, Hughes, Kyle, Harris and Jordan Phillips, Murphy, Star---most are still there. Zay Jones even had 652 yards and 7 TDs. Agree with you, but all of the offensive players (outside the raw rookie Allen) you mentioned are depth or special teams players at best now, or off the team. The offense was pretty devoid of talent. McCoy was basically all we had and he was on his very last legs. The oline was hot garbage. Guys like Foster and Zay Jones are now barely roster worthy but were major contributors that year. But yeah, the defense had talent.
Utah John Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 The Bills built the defense first, but even that was not always good in 2018. The Bills started 2018 as one of the worst teams in the league. They were getting blown out over and over because the offense couldn't hold on to the ball. Also remember the opening part of the 2018 schedule was brutal. The Vikings upset was a feel-good moment but the fact that it was so shocking shows how most of the league felt about the Bills. By the end of the season, the team was much more solid, and I agree McD deserves a lot of credit for keeping the players moving ahead in the right direction. I keep pointing this out, but the Dolphins' 2019 season was a lot like the Bills' 2018 season. Started out really bad, and got better with a strong coach. Miami is going to be really tough this year if they get a QB. 1
Mr. WEO Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, MJS said: Agree with you, but all of the offensive players (outside the raw rookie Allen) you mentioned are depth or special teams players at best now, or off the team. The offense was pretty devoid of talent. McCoy was basically all we had and he was on his very last legs. The oline was hot garbage. Guys like Foster and Zay Jones are now barely roster worthy but were major contributors that year. But yeah, the defense had talent. Over the first 8 games of the 2018 season, that Bills team played the hardest schedule of any team in the league to that point in the season. The 2019 team had the 2nd easiest schedule. Big difference. Obviously the players knew how rough their first half of the season would be. Even given that fact, the 2019 Offense scored 19.6 ppg; only 2.9 more ppg than the 2018 team. So, this was clearly not XFL level talent and there was never a time that the players would have given up on the 2nd year HC.
MJS Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 18 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Over the first 8 games of the 2018 season, that Bills team played the hardest schedule of any team in the league to that point in the season. The 2019 team had the 2nd easiest schedule. Big difference. Obviously the players knew how rough their first half of the season would be. Even given that fact, the 2019 Offense scored 19.6 ppg; only 2.9 more ppg than the 2018 team. So, this was clearly not XFL level talent and there was never a time that the players would have given up on the 2nd year HC. Yep, I agree. But it's pretty easy to tell that the 2019 Bills offense had much more talent than the 2018 Bills offense.
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 2018 was on Beane not McD. Beane put a non-competitive product on the field. O-line and WR groups were the worst in the league. We will all forget about it in a year or two if they make a deep playoff run or two.
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Utah John said: The Bills built the defense first, but even that was not always good in 2018. The Bills started 2018 as one of the worst teams in the league. They were getting blown out over and over because the offense couldn't hold on to the ball. Also remember the opening part of the 2018 schedule was brutal. The Vikings upset was a feel-good moment but the fact that it was so shocking shows how most of the league felt about the Bills. By the end of the season, the team was much more solid, and I agree McD deserves a lot of credit for keeping the players moving ahead in the right direction. I keep pointing this out, but the Dolphins' 2019 season was a lot like the Bills' 2018 season. Started out really bad, and got better with a strong coach. Miami is going to be really tough this year if they get a QB. It's fascinating with the defense first philosophy that his defense gets steamrolled at times. Multiple 200 yard rushing games allowed. Collapse at Houston. I think that probably happens with every team - 49ers against the Saints last year. The lack of a pass rush has got to get fixed. Pass rush leads to negative plays, holding penalties, and turnovers. Even if it means blitzing. The Bills have the secondary that can hold up even if the blitz is picked up. Most of the QB pressures were coverage sacks especially Lawson's.
Mr. WEO Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 41 minutes ago, MJS said: Yep, I agree. But it's pretty easy to tell that the 2019 Bills offense had much more talent than the 2018 Bills offense. Not at OC....hence a similar result.
Nick the Greek Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: "Lose the team" in his second year, after their 1st playoff season of the century? The team was bad in 2018. It was another 6-10 for the Bills.
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 I think he is a very good young HC that is still learning. The only issue I have with him is that he is super conservative.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 I mean, no offense, but the guy is still an active football coach. Hopefully his "best coaching" is yet to come. 2
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