C.Biscuit97 Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I get that Bob McNair is racist and such, but he would not stand for it. O’Brien trading Watson would result in him being gone imo. Trading a top receiver, while egregious, is nowhere near as bad as moving Watson. Would be straight insanity. I think he died. but I think one thing everyone can agree is how the Texans (should be the Oilers, the Buffalo NeW Yorkers) let Bill O’Brien ruin a team with some of the best young talent in the nfl. Gave away Clowney (overrated but it was a joke trade), gave away Hopkins for an over the hill and expensive rb, and spent 2 1sts on an OT. Might as well give Watson away to finish the job. 1
DrDawkinstein Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 Let's assume for a minute that the conspiracy theory is true: Texans get off to a slow start and BOB finds himself on the hotseat early. As we approach the trade deadline (late Oct), BOB trades Watson to the Pats (even for a 1st). BOB is fired from Houston. Can Houston Ownership petition the league to annul the trade? Is there any precedent for the NFL stepping in and stopping trades? Let alone reversing them? 1
Wayne Arnold Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: The "Texans" arent, but BOB looking for a job next year certainly is. So Bob has more power than Janice McNair?
DrDawkinstein Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, djp14150 said: why would Houston do this? "Houston" wouldnt. I've already explained why people think BOB as GM would. 4 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: So Bob has more power than Janice McNair? Do the owners need to sign off on every move a GM makes? Like literally sign a paper? Or do they have autonomy to do what they want? BOB is GM and HC, so Id argue that he has a LOT of power right now. Power granted to him, and so far allowed, by Janice McNair. Quoting myself, asking for a friend: 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Let's assume for a minute that the conspiracy theory is true: Texans get off to a slow start and BOB finds himself on the hotseat early. As we approach the trade deadline (late Oct), BOB trades Watson to the Pats (even for a 1st). BOB is fired from Houston. BOB gets a job with New England Can Houston Ownership petition the league to annul the trade? Is there any precedent for the NFL stepping in and stopping trades? Let alone reversing them? I feel like that is something @YoloinOhio or @Kirby Jackson would know... Edited March 25, 2020 by DrDawkinstein
thenorthremembers Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 The Patriots dont have enough cap space to take on his modest salary. 1
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Let's assume for a minute that the conspiracy theory is true: Texans get off to a slow start and BOB finds himself on the hotseat early. As we approach the trade deadline (late Oct), BOB trades Watson to the Pats (even for a 1st). BOB is fired from Houston. Can Houston Ownership petition the league to annul the trade? Is there any precedent for the NFL stepping in and stopping trades? Let alone reversing them? I would hope so...that should finally bring the ban hammer to the entire Pats organization including Brady but not Gronk... Barred from football and HoF forever and stripped of all accomplishments
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 I can’t even imagine the draft capital it would take for NE to get Watson away from Houston. It would have to be at least 3 1st rounders plus... No shot.
MrEpsYtown Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I think he died. but I think one thing everyone can agree is how the Texans (should be the Oilers, the Buffalo NeW Yorkers) let Bill O’Brien ruin a team with some of the best young talent in the nfl. Gave away Clowney (overrated but it was a joke trade), gave away Hopkins for an over the hill and expensive rb, and spent 2 1sts on an OT. Might as well give Watson away to finish the job. Oh jeez, I didn’t realize he died like two years ago! Thanks.
Kirby Jackson Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: "Houston" wouldnt. I've already explained why people think BOB as GM would. Do the owners need to sign off on every move a GM makes? Like literally sign a paper? Or do they have autonomy to do what they want? BOB is GM and HC, so Id argue that he has a LOT of power right now. Power granted to him, and so far allowed, by Janice McNair. Quoting myself, asking for a friend: I feel like that is something @YoloinOhio or @Kirby Jackson would know... I don’t know but I doubt it. The good news is that Houston ownership likely has to sign off on that deal. I’m pretty confident that ownership wouldn’t allow a lame duck coach to trade away the franchise QB.
DrDawkinstein Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: I can’t even imagine the draft capital it would take for NE to get Watson away from Houston. It would have to be at least 3 1st rounders plus... No shot. Like what it would take to get Hopkins? And again, most of this rumor is based on the idea that BOB is about to get fired and go to NE himself. As GM, he can ask for whatever he wants.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) They're not going to trade him. Obrien gets fired before ownership lets him trade watson. Also - he posted song lyrics as an immediate response to a friend getting traded. Its an emotional response but i don't think he like pissed anyone off by stating it. Edited March 25, 2020 by dneveu
DrDawkinstein Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: I don’t know but I doubt it. The good news is that Houston ownership likely has to sign off on that deal. I’m pretty confident that ownership wouldn’t allow a lame duck coach to trade away the franchise QB. Yeah, that's a part of what I'm wondering and truly dont know. Do owners have to literally sign paperwork to file with the league in order to make trades happen? Or can GMs basically do what they want?
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: Yeah, that's a part of what I'm wondering and truly dont know. Do owners have to literally sign paperwork to file with the league in order to make trades happen? Or can GMs basically do what they want? One would think they would be made aware if the franchise QB was being moved.
Mr. WEO Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Let's assume for a minute that the conspiracy theory is true: Texans get off to a slow start and BOB finds himself on the hotseat early. As we approach the trade deadline (late Oct), BOB trades Watson to the Pats (even for a 1st). BOB is fired from Houston. Can Houston Ownership petition the league to annul the trade? Is there any precedent for the NFL stepping in and stopping trades? Let alone reversing them? Or the owner group could just tell him not to trade Watson or you're fired.
DrDawkinstein Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, dneveu said: One would think they would be made aware if the franchise QB was being moved. 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: Or the owner group could just tell him not to trade Watson or you're fired. So we know for certain there is some sort of check in place on any/all trades GMs want to make? And for WEO, my premise is based on the assumption BOB is already on the hotseat at that point and assumes he is going to be fired either way. Edited March 25, 2020 by DrDawkinstein
aristocrat Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 the owner would have to step in with this there is just no way you do this
Mr. WEO Posted March 25, 2020 Posted March 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: So we know for certain there is some sort of check in place on any/all trades GMs want to make? And for WEO, my premise is based on the assumption BOB is already on the hotseat at that point and assumes he is going to be fired either way. There is no way the NFL would nullify a proper trade. An owner can make any such decision. It the trade is made, the owner can't say he didn't want it after completed. If the owner is against the trade, there is no trade. The GM can't trade if the owner says no.
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