There should be a national dialogue in getting back to work

[Reality Check]

Now that we know millions can work from home via the internet, I suggest we outsource those jobs next, while shutting down our food production and opening our borders to the third world. We can all live happily ever after on welfare. Just remember to do exactly what the government tells you to do and take your shots when ordered. A good citizen obeys their government.

[Mitt Lieth]

A good citizen also obeys your president without question.  Get the lamestream media out of here and give dear leader a chance! 

[Tiberius]

Maybe we are not praying enough? Why hasn't Mike Pence led a nationwide prayer? 

 

We are straying from God, that's why there is a pandemic 

[B-Man]

 

 

THE TIMES’ BRET STEPHENS IS ANGERING LOTS OF NEW YORKERS RIGHT NOW: 

 

America Shouldn’t Have to Play by New York Rules.

I write this from New York, so it’s an argument against my personal interest. But I don’t see why people living in a Nashville suburb should not be allowed to return to their jobs because people like me choose to live, travel and work in urban sardine cans.

 

Gina Raimondo, the Rhode Island governor, was on to something when, a few weeks ago, she wanted to quarantine drivers arriving from New York. The rest of America needs to get back to life. We New Yorkers prefer our own company, anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

JON GABRIEL: No, those who want to reopen the economy don’t want to kill old people.

 

“Lowering the speed limit to 5 mph would eliminate traffic-related deaths, but we accept an increased risk for the benefits of travel. The same approach applies to COVID-19 and every other public health issue.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

From the above link:

 

“.. Americans are being told they must still play by New York rules — with all the hardships they entail — despite having neither New York’s living conditions nor [its] health outcomes. This is bad medicine, misguided public policy, and horrible politics.”

 

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As the rates of asymptomatic infection climb higher and higher, realize that mortality is plummeting like a rock.

Isolate high risk groups, everyone else can go back to work

 

 

 

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Edited April 26, 2020 by B-Man

[B-Man]

 

 

 

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[OldTimeAFLGuy]

10 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

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...perhaps I'm dead wrong, but there has to be some concern with food packaging plants experiencing high rates of Covid-19 and being shut down.....how can the food supply chain NOT be affected?.......what do you think would be the exacerbation to current "cabin fever" if it became widely public that the food supply chain was in jeopardy?....

[Westside]

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...I am in favor of "Phase I-III Federal Guidelines" relative to states reopening, with emphasis on "guidelines"....A dictating "one size fits all" from the Federal level makes zero sense IMO.....states have duly elected their leadership regardless of party affiliation, so let them show their leadership now....granted, there is NOT one elected official stateside, regardless of party, who ever imagined EVER facing a nationwide crisis such as Covid-19....but as the old adage says, "WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH, THE TOUGH GET GOING"...so let's see and hope for the best.........

[Buffalo_Gal]

 

[B-Man]

 

 NYC tailor defies state order: ‘I’m opening my doors come hell or high water.’

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

Even if New York’s plan and those put out by states such as Maryland come off without a hitch, they will take weeks, if not months, to ramp up, subject to any setbacks (e.g., a second wave). These states are coming to grips with the reality that much of life will not change to something approximating “normal” before we get a vaccine. You likely will not enter a store without a mask, sit in a crowded movie theater or restaurant, or fly on a plane. Before there is a vaccine, you might not go to a gym, the beach or a mall — no matter what the social distancing. If you are working from home now, you may very well still be working from home six months or a year from now. Moreover, your employer may eventually decide the business can lease half the space it currently does and have you work from home permanently.

Students at K-12 schools and at colleges may go through a full year in which they never physically meet a teacher or attend a school play or an athletic event in person. Instead of live theater, concerts and sports, we might get our entertainment in a pay-per-view format. Movie theaters were dying off anyway with streaming services and big home televisions; most of the rest may vanish as well. Don’t bank on watching a summer blockbuster movie in a theater. How many of these entertainment venues will disappear permanently is unknowable.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/27/how-much-will-coronavirus-change-permanently/

[Q-baby!]

On 4/26/2020 at 8:01 AM, Mitt Lieth said:

A good citizen also obeys your president without question.  Get the lamestream media out of here and give dear leader a chance! 

 

[RochesterRob]

24 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Even if New York’s plan and those put out by states such as Maryland come off without a hitch, they will take weeks, if not months, to ramp up, subject to any setbacks (e.g., a second wave). These states are coming to grips with the reality that much of life will not change to something approximating “normal” before we get a vaccine. You likely will not enter a store without a mask, sit in a crowded movie theater or restaurant, or fly on a plane. Before there is a vaccine, you might not go to a gym, the beach or a mall — no matter what the social distancing. If you are working from home now, you may very well still be working from home six months or a year from now. Moreover, your employer may eventually decide the business can lease half the space it currently does and have you work from home permanently.

Students at K-12 schools and at colleges may go through a full year in which they never physically meet a teacher or attend a school play or an athletic event in person. Instead of live theater, concerts and sports, we might get our entertainment in a pay-per-view format. Movie theaters were dying off anyway with streaming services and big home televisions; most of the rest may vanish as well. Don’t bank on watching a summer blockbuster movie in a theater. How many of these entertainment venues will disappear permanently is unknowable.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/27/how-much-will-coronavirus-change-permanently/

  Many school bullies are on suicide watch.

[B-Man]

 

 

Wait, how long are we supposed to stay in lockdown?

by Karol Markowicz

 

Original Article

 

What are we waiting for? The question can be posed in either a wild, irresponsible way — or a sane, measured way.

 

In New York, our “pause” will continue until at least May 15, and New Yorkers are asking, in a measured, sane way: What exactly are we waiting for?

 

In the beginning, we had a goal: to flatten the curve. We were warned that COVID-19 would overtake our hospitals and cause a health-system collapse. We were to stay home to give our medical heroes a fighting chance. So we did,

 

More at the link:

 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Earnings this week should be interesting.

 

[3rdnlng]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Even if New York’s plan and those put out by states such as Maryland come off without a hitch, they will take weeks, if not months, to ramp up, subject to any setbacks (e.g., a second wave). These states are coming to grips with the reality that much of life will not change to something approximating “normal” before we get a vaccine. You likely will not enter a store without a mask, sit in a crowded movie theater or restaurant, or fly on a plane. Before there is a vaccine, you might not go to a gym, the beach or a mall — no matter what the social distancing. If you are working from home now, you may very well still be working from home six months or a year from now. Moreover, your employer may eventually decide the business can lease half the space it currently does and have you work from home permanently.

Students at K-12 schools and at colleges may go through a full year in which they never physically meet a teacher or attend a school play or an athletic event in person. Instead of live theater, concerts and sports, we might get our entertainment in a pay-per-view format. Movie theaters were dying off anyway with streaming services and big home televisions; most of the rest may vanish as well. Don’t bank on watching a summer blockbuster movie in a theater. How many of these entertainment venues will disappear permanently is unknowable.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/27/how-much-will-coronavirus-change-permanently/

That is a foolish statement not based in the reality of the situation. Where are the tenants going to come from if half the people are working from home?

[B-Man]

 

 

HMM: California Docs Say Lockdown vs. Non-Lockdown ‘Did Not Produce a Statistically Different Number of Deaths.’

 

 

 

 

 Businesses Without Options Defy Closing Orders.

 

 

 

 

 

Lockdown is Destroying Food Supply Chain.

 

 

 

 

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