There should be a national dialogue in getting back to work

[B-Man]

 

 

Texas governor set to unveil executive order for re-opening businesses in a ‘safe economic revitalization.’

 

 

 

 

 

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[shoshin]

16 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  There are parents of school age kids that are working now.  Go to any WNY community and you will see 30-50 year old people who are working the counters of Seven-eleven's, McD's, local home improvement stores, etc. this very minute.  That is why Cuomo's approach is somewhat illogical.  I understand that schools are a focal point in terms of preventing the spread of the virus but for Cuomo to think that schools need to be open for parents to work is flawed.  

Some parents can work if they have kids but many cannot or they cannot work well.  
 

Cuomo and de Blasio were just having a spat. Kids aren’t going back to school this spring in NYS. They both know it. All the states around NY are punting the spring away. NY is not about to be the one hold out. 

Edited April 14, 2020 by shoshin

[3rdnlng]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Cuomo was talking about opening the schools the other day. Did he back off on that? 
 

DiBlasio stated the other day that the NYC schools are closed for the year. Cuomo stated that it wasn't up to DiBlasio to make that determination since he (Cuomo) was the one that closed them in the first place. 

[shoshin]

2 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Texas governor set to unveil executive order for re-opening businesses in a ‘safe economic revitalization.’

 

 

 

 

 

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We interrupt this program for an announcement about the pending announcement. 

[Buffalo_Gal]

3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

DiBlasio stated the other day that the NYC schools are closed for the year. Cuomo stated that it wasn't up to DiBlasio to make that determination since he (Cuomo) was the one that closed them in the first place. 

That was what I saw. Same presser Cuomo said that schools needed to open in conjunction with businesses as schools provided a defacto day care. 

[RochesterRob]

4 minutes ago, shoshin said:

Some parents can work if they have kids but many cannot or they cannot work well.  
 

Cuomo and de Blasio were just having a spat. Kids aren’t going back to school this spring in NYS. They both know it. 

  Employers are not going to wait indefinitely on parents that have a problem in terms of kids.  The parents will get it figured out just like they do for summer vacation.

[shoshin]

2 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Employers are not going to wait indefinitely on parents that have a problem in terms of kids.  The parents will get it figured out just like they do for summer vacation.

You’re making my point. Summer vacation from school is a time for a lot of kids to go to camps and other daytime activities. Those will only be open and available if they can be. Parents need them. It’s part of how they “figure it out” to use your phrase. 
 

 

Edited April 14, 2020 by shoshin

[Buffalo_Gal]

Announcement with specifics at noon pacific (3 eastern).  They will be laying out details. They want to avoid a new wave, etc., etc. 
 

Gov. Newsom to announce plan to reopen West Coast states, lift California stay-at-home orders
 

Governor Gavin Newsom on Tuesday will announce details on an agreement made with Oregon and Washington to reopen the economies of the Western States and lift stay-at-home orders.
 

“In the coming weeks, the West Coast will flip the script on COVID-19 – with our states acting in close coordination and collaboration to ensure the virus can never spread wildly in our communities,” a joint statement from Governor Newsom, Oregon Governor Kate brown, and Washington Governor Jay Inslee.
 

The statement added that each state is building its own state-specific plan, but all agreed to work together, put residents’ health first, and to use health outcomes and science to guide the decisions made.
 

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[RochesterRob]

6 minutes ago, shoshin said:

You’re making my point. Summer vacation from school is a time for a lot of kids to go to camps and other daytime activities. Those will only be open and available if they can be. Parents need them. It’s part of how they “figure it out” to use your phrase. 
 

 

  Even during the summer recreation centers, camps, etc are not a 24/7 means of warehousing kids.  There are the times where sports and other activities will not fill up the day for a kid.  The times where the kid goes to grandma's or the stay at home aunt for example.  Instead of waiting for the end of June the kid goes to the relative or the neighbor to be watched now.

[B-Man]

A New Strategy for Bringing People Back to Work During COVID-19

It’s imperative that we responsibly restore the economy while working to flatten the coronavirus curve.

By Avik Roy

 

https://freopp.org/a-new-strategy-for-bringing-people-back-to-work-during-covid-19-a912247f1ab5

[shoshin]

15 minutes ago, B-Man said:

A New Strategy for Bringing People Back to Work During COVID-19

It’s imperative that we responsibly restore the economy while working to flatten the coronavirus curve.

By Avik Roy

 

https://freopp.org/a-new-strategy-for-bringing-people-back-to-work-during-covid-19-a912247f1ab5

Another voice advocating for using an app to track people’s movements via their cell phones. Good. He makes the interesting point that you’d need fewer tests if this was implemented, which is something I hadn’t considered. 

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

nevermind wrong post

Edited April 14, 2020 by Buffalo Bills Fan

[Magox]

Jamie Dimon, who I respect tremendously when it comes to the world of finance.  Thinks we could be opening up relatively soon.

 

 

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“A rational plan to get back to work is a good thing to do, and hopefully it will be sooner rather than later,” Dimon said Tuesday on a conference call with analysts. “But it won’t be May. We’re talking about June, July, August, something like that.”

 

 

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“We shouldn’t think of it as a binary thing that after the CDC [gives approval] and we all get instructions from the government, after there’s enough capacity in the hospitals, after there’s proper amount of testing,” only then will people return to work, he said. “Remember, a lot of people are going to work today in farms, factories, food production, retail, pharmacies, hospitals – it isn’t like no one is going to work.”

 

 

 

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, RochesterRob said:

  Employers are not going to wait indefinitely on parents that have a problem in terms of kids.  The parents will get it figured out just like they do for summer vacation.

True but a lot of districts have summer day camps that provide cheap babysitting services.  It will be an extra cost for many adults if they have to go back to work and schools aren't open.  I don't think reopening schools in a couple of weeks is a bad idea.  It's going to have to get to a point soon where people highly suseptible to the virus self quarantine and the rest of us just get back to our daily lives practicing social distancing measures.  Hopefully we develop herd immunity and not have any major second waves.  The damage to the economy will be too great if we keep the country in lockdown for a year until a vaccine is developed.

[Nanker]

On 4/12/2020 at 2:09 PM, B-Man said:

 

I like how they misspelled “accused rapist” as “presumptive Democratic nominee.”  

[Deranged Rhino]

 

[shoshin]

17 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

This is a good alert but that website is a mash of pop-ups and junk full screen promotions. This link may be better for the same content. 

 

https://abc7.com/gavin-newsom-press-conference-daily-update-coronavirus-in-california/6102767/

 

Six parameters:

 

1. A widespread expansion of coronavirus testing;
2. "Vigilant" protection of California's most vulnerable residents;
3. Focus on hospital care infrastructure and personal protective equipment, or PPE;

4. Engage researchers in academia, incuding the University of California, and at health and technology companies on the front lines of the pandemic;
5. "Redraw floor plans" at business locations with physical distancing in mind;
6. Determining when to re-institute certain measures, such as stay-at-home orders.

 

He says to ask him again in two weeks how they are coming on these and about timing of reopening. 

 

Pretty sensible approach. Leaves off tracking but it's a general structure for a plan. 

 

Edited April 14, 2020 by shoshin

[SoCal Deek]

20 minutes ago, shoshin said:

 

This is a good alert but that website is a mash of pop-ups and junk full screen promotions. This link may be better for the same content. 

 

https://abc7.com/gavin-newsom-press-conference-daily-update-coronavirus-in-california/6102767/

 

Six parameters:

 

1. A widespread expansion of coronavirus testing;
2. "Vigilant" protection of California's most vulnerable residents;
3. Focus on hospital care infrastructure and personal protective equipment, or PPE;

4. Engage researchers in academia, incuding the University of California, and at health and technology companies on the front lines of the pandemic;
5. "Redraw floor plans" at business locations with physical distancing in mind;
6. Determining when to re-institute certain measures, such as stay-at-home orders.

 

He says to ask him again in two weeks how they are coming on these and about timing of reopening. 

 

Pretty sensible approach. Leaves off tracking but it's a general structure for a plan. 

 

So now the State of California is going to tell me how many people I can have in my office building....beyond the Building Code requirements? This should be interesting! 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

45 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

So now the State of California is going to tell me how many people I can have in my office building....beyond the Building Code requirements? This should be interesting! 

 

...as CFO, try running a multi-million dollar operations in three states with all states having differing "plans" and definitions of essential businesses (NYS) or no categorization.......NYS, PA & NJ......

[TH3]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

So now the State of California is going to tell me how many people I can have in my office building....beyond the Building Code requirements? This should be interesting! 

Gawd....get over yourself and look up the meaning of “citizen”