There should be a national dialogue in getting back to work

[IDBillzFan]

Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

Did they provide you with an SBA confirmation number? Once our bank submitted the app, they received a confirmation number to acknowledge SBA receipt.

 

No. They just acknowledged they had it. But again, it was a Wells Fargo app, not the SBA app, which I have filled out and tee'd up.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 minute ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

No. They just acknowledged they had it. But again, it was a Wells Fargo app, not the SBA app, which I have filled out and tee'd up.

 

I went through our bank and completed their requested spreadsheet. They then used to correct SBA app to submit ( two SBA apps, one old and one new; old one is for traditional SBA loan applications). Again, they handled the SBA application. Wells Fargo does not perform this for you?

[IDBillzFan]

Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

I went through our bank and completed their requested spreadsheet. They then used to correct SBA app to submit ( two SBA apps, one old and one new; old one is for traditional SBA loan applications). Again, they handled the SBA application. Wells Fargo does not perform this for you?

 

Not at this point. Wells Fargo is still trying to figure out the extent they want to get involved. I'm looking into other banks as I type this, but I'm just a little concerned with having duplicate loan apps out as I'm hearing that can screw things up.

[shoshin]

2 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Not at this point. Wells Fargo is still trying to figure out the extent they want to get involved. I'm looking into other banks as I type this, but I'm just a little concerned with having duplicate loan apps out as I'm hearing that can screw things up.

 

Wells Fargo is my normal bank. They did not work well for this. Good luck--I was able to use a local bank but mostly just because I had a friend who could help me. 

[B-Man]

 

 

Texas Lt. Gov. Announces Task Force to Work on ‘Restarting the Economy.’

 

 

 

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[Q-baby!]

2 hours ago, I am the egg man said:

No, but no doubt, your bottle scavenging thru others recycle bins is paying your bills.

? I have no bills! 

[Deranged Rhino]

1 hour ago, shoshin said:

25% would be nothing. Without tracking, we are just saying “***** it.” 

 

Tracking just will not happen. That's the goal of many -- for years before this pandemic. Now they want to backdoor it into reality. 

 

If you value your civil liberties, your innate rights, and your freedom, you'd understand why this is an all they way bad idea. There's no upside to exchanging our basic civil liberties for a security which is just a mirage to begin with. 

[Boatdrinks]

28 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Tracking just will not happen. That's the goal of many -- for years before this pandemic. Now they want to backdoor it into reality. 

 

If you value your civil liberties, your innate rights, and your freedom, you'd understand why this is an all they way bad idea. There's no upside to exchanging our basic civil liberties for a security which is just a mirage to begin with. 

No upside at all. Such a scenario is a dream for those who lust after government control / involvement in every aspect of our daily lives. This just won’t work in America. As humans we have the innate right of freedom. None of us has an innate right to not catch a virus; to be free from that which occurs by chance. 

[RochesterRob]

15 minutes ago, I am the egg man said:

Along with your having no clue.

  Well, he is a hobo so having no bills is no surprise.  Unfortunately, for us his uncle left him a laptop.  I wonder if the Springville, NY McD's notices a stray extension cord going into the woods?

[Deranged Rhino]

@jrober38 hardest hit

 

 

[Uncle Joe]

35 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

  Well, he is a hobo  bum so having no bills is no surprise.  Unfortunately, for us his uncle left him a laptop.  I wonder if the Springville, NY McD's notices a stray extension cord going into the woods?

A hobo is a migrant worker or homeless vagrant, especially one who is impoverished. ... Unlike a "tramp", who works only when forced to, and a "bum", who does not work at all, a "hobo" is a traveling worker.

[123719bwiqrb]

6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

@jrober38 hardest hit

 

 

 

They just transferred the deaths from the COVID-19 vulnerable to the 25-30% unemployed.  At least the CDC isn't responsible - silo mentality in action.

4 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said:

A hobo is a migrant worker or homeless vagrant, especially one who is impoverished. ... Unlike a "tramp", who works only when forced to, and a "bum", who does not work at all, a "hobo" is a traveling worker.

 

Hence the reason hobos took illegal, free trips on train cars?  Man, you learn something new everyday.

[RochesterRob]

17 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said:

A hobo is a migrant worker or homeless vagrant, especially one who is impoverished. ... Unlike a "tramp", who works only when forced to, and a "bum", who does not work at all, a "hobo" is a traveling worker.

  I thought that he said one time that he worked time to time as a male prostitute hence hobo?

[123719bwiqrb]

Just now, RochesterRob said:

  I thought that he said one time that he worked time to time as a male prostitute hence hobo?

 

Then that's called a HoBlow.

[RochesterRob]

2 hours ago, ScotSHO said:

 

They just transferred the deaths from the COVID-19 vulnerable to the 25-30% unemployed.  At least the CDC isn't responsible - silo mentality in action.

 

Hence the reason hobos took illegal, free trips on train cars?  Man, you learn something new everyday.

  His camp is near the Norfolk Southern line south of Arcade in Cattaraugus County.

Edited April 8, 2020 by RochesterRob

[Q-baby!]

1 hour ago, I am the egg man said:

Along with your having no clue.

Thanks egghead! 

[shoshin]

2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Tracking just will not happen. That's the goal of many -- for years before this pandemic. Now they want to backdoor it into reality. 

 

If you value your civil liberties, your innate rights, and your freedom, you'd understand why this is an all they way bad idea. There's no upside to exchanging our basic civil liberties for a security which is just a mirage to begin with. 

 

I value my business, my family/community's health, and our economy more than putting up with a covid-tracking-app, where that tracking THAT IS ALREADY HAPPENING can help manage our way out of this crisis. 

 

If we don't have the backbone to do this right, this two month shutdown was a waste of time because we will be right back here in September or October, with even higher case counts.

 

I don't see installing an app on my phone as a question I am debating on the civil liberty purity test right now. Trump has said we are at war. In times of war, you do give up certain liberties. Always. 

Edited April 8, 2020 by shoshin

[mannc]

47 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

@jrober38 hardest hit

 

 

Wait, do you mean 100,000 -240,000 dead is no longer the best case scenario????  Who could have predicted that???

Hmmm, I wonder what other models on other subjects might also be wrong...

[shoshin]

2 minutes ago, mannc said:

Wait, do you mean 100,000 -240,000 dead is no longer the best case scenario????  Who could have predicted that???

 

Distancing is working so this wave will come in 30-60K dead over 3 months. The next wave(s)? Who knows. 

 

I really hope they come up with an effective treatment fast. HCQ, Z-packs, whatever. Anything to get most people back on their feet faster. If we are going to just re-open without a good process to track, that is essential to keeping any economy up and our healthcare system from tanking more than it is. 

[Deranged Rhino]

2 minutes ago, shoshin said:

 

Distancing is working so this wave will come in 30-60K dead over 3 months. The next wave(s)? Who knows. 

 

The next wave will be far less -- because herd immunity. 

(and better data and therapeutics... soon vaccines)