longtimebillsfan Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 I am a Josh Allen fan. I believe that he has the physical gifts to be a generational quarterback. I also am aware of his weaknesses. Now that Josh has one of the best trio starting wide receivers in the league, what does he have to do to show that he is the Bills franchise quarterback? 2 1
Troll Toll Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 250ypg passing QB Rating >= 90 CMP% >= 60% 3 2
Thurman#1 Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) I don't think it's necessary to parse this, myself. I'd say something like ... improve significantly and improve more as the season goes along. Be among the top half of all starters in 2020 and hopefully even a bit higher than that. Edited March 23, 2020 by Thurman#1 2
Mango Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 A better job putting up points. If Singletary is the player we hope, if JA is the player we hope, adding Diggs, Brown, and Beasley should get us into or very close to the top 10 in scoring 25ish points per game (up from 19). I think asking for about 230-240 yards through the air per game is reasonable, right in the Cousins, Fitz range. I am not going to jump into QBR, 300 yard games, or completion percentage. If he can throw for about 235 per game, and we can score one more touchdown per game, the rest of the numbers will follow. Just for perspective, my ask isn't crazy in regards to rankings. 20th in yards per game and 12th in points per game. It is a low bar, but I think that is all the output this offense needs to put the Bills firmly in the conversation as a top 10 team. 4
White Linen Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, Mango said: A better job putting up points. If Singletary is the player we hope, if JA is the player we hope, adding Diggs, Brown, and Beasley should get us into or very close to the top 10 in scoring 25ish points per game (up from 19). I think asking for about 230-240 yards through the air per game is reasonable, right in the Cousins, Fitz range. I am not going to jump into QBR, 300 yard games, or completion percentage. If he can throw for about 235 per game, and we can score one more touchdown per game, the rest of the numbers will follow. Just for perspective, my ask isn't crazy in regards to rankings. 20th in yards per game and 12th in points per game. It is a low bar, but I think that is all the output this offense needs to put the Bills firmly in the conversation as a top 10 team. We were tied for a top 8 team last year.
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 The offense has to get out of the teens when it comes to points per game. But importantly Allen just needs to start making it happen when it needs to happen. But that is just the standard all top QBs are held to. So it’s a fair ask. 7
longtimebillsfan Posted March 23, 2020 Author Posted March 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, White Linen said: We were tied for a top 8 team last year. We were tied for 8th in scoring?
Mango Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, White Linen said: We were tied for a top 8 team last year. A few things here: 1. There were some just criticisms of this team last year that left them our of firmly being considered a top 10 team. Soft schedule, ability to put points on the board consistently, can the defense keep up with a top offense. 2. 10 other teams pick after the Bills this year. So it is 11th. They are picking 11th because (seen above) The offense had a number of misfires in the 2nd half where they couldn't put points on the board and the defense could not stop a high powered Houston offense in the second half. 3. This one is more philosophical, but I really don't put a ton (although some) stock in the idea "Top 10" in the NFL somehow means you are elite. There are only 32 teams. You are in the top 1/3rd, which is good but there is a lot of variance. What if you were a top 10 sales rep at your company? Sounds great, but the difference between being a top 10 rep at Johnson and Johnson where they have 1000's of reps is much different than being top 10 at your local car dealership where maybe there are 30-40. I get it, these guy are already in the 99th percentile at what they do in their sport. But they aren't competing at those levels anymore. 1
jrober38 Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 Just now, GoBills808 said: Prove what? That we shouldn't draft a new QB next year to avoid paying him $30+ mil a year. 3 2
GoBills808 Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: That we shouldn't draft a new QB next year to avoid paying him $30+ mil a year. lmao @ the idea of drafting a new QB next year there are maybe 10 people who think that'd be a good idea and they're all on this messageboard 1
jrober38 Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 Just now, GoBills808 said: lmao @ the idea of drafting a new QB next year there are maybe 10 people who think that'd be a good idea and they're all on this messageboard If Josh is bottom 5 in most passing categories again do you stand pat at QB? 2
longtimebillsfan Posted March 23, 2020 Author Posted March 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Prove what? Some people are still questioning whether josh is our qb of the future. They think that this year is the make it or break it season. 1
Hebert19 Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: If Josh is bottom 5 in most passing categories again do you stand pat at QB? Dont care. Win baby. If he does what it takes to get us 10 to 12 wins and into the playoffs I could care less about stats. Matt ryan and matt Stafford have nice stats. Hows that working out for then. 2
Teddy KGB Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, jrober38 said: That we shouldn't draft a new QB next year to avoid paying him $30+ mil a year. you’re still gonna do this ?
GoBills808 Posted March 23, 2020 Posted March 23, 2020 Just now, jrober38 said: If Josh is bottom 5 in most passing categories again do you stand pat at QB? You mean once I think for like 3 seconds about how he wouldn't have been 'bottom 5 in most passing categories' if his receivers had dropped his passes at just an average NFL rate? Yeah pretty easy
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