dave mcbride Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 I don't think it was age - I think it was playcalling and personnel formations plus the fact that the Bills run blocking talent ain't that great. 1
947 Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 The playcalling didn't help. Running 2-3 sweeps per game which averaged -3 yards certainly affects the bottom line... 1
Big Turk Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) I think it was more from the way they used him after Singletary came back. He was given a lot of short yardage/goal line carries and the Bills were NOT good at Power Run Blocking, ranking near the bottom of the NFL at success rate for those... Prior to that, he was used in a more full feature role. 2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I don't think it was age - I think it was playcalling and personnel formations plus the fact that the Bills run blocking talent ain't that great. The Bills run blocking was not good in Power formations. However by all other metrics, it was good to excellent in other situations...Singletary did lead the NFL in yards per carry as an RB, he didn't do that by himself. Edited March 20, 2020 by matter2003
Chandler#81 Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 47 minutes ago, freddyjj said: Gore was seldom used in the 11 formation they used in back half of season. When he went on field we lined up in heavy formations more often. As a result lots of 8 or 9 man boxes. He was in when they knew we were running (short yardage, goal line or 4 minute drill). Not a lot of lanes to run through and he was too slow to run outside by design. That's why there will be a new compliment to Motor in 2020. This, for part time fans like Phil who have to ask.. Washington game is where his wonderful career hit the concrete wall because that’s when Motor became the focal point of the running game. After that, when Gore came in, it meant he was getting the ball on short yardage plays.
Mister Defense Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) This post is tongue in cheek, correct? Not a real question or concern, correct? Shocking, almost disturbing, if not! Gore is 36 years old, has carried the ball over three thousand five hundred times, and rushed for over fifteen thousand yards. In addition, he has almost five hundred receptions for almost four thousand more yards. You don't need to know all the specifics, of course, to know this is the reason. This is a joke, right? Edited March 20, 2020 by Mister Defense 1
boater Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mister Defense said: rushed for over fifteen thousand yards For perspective 15000 yards equals approx. 8.5 miles. 8.5 miles of people trying to pound the tar out of you. 1
ColoradoBills Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 Devin helping Frank on locker clean out day last year.
34-78-83 Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 strange that it was asked, but it was a combo of factors very clearly. Age - He's certainly lost any burst to the edge he might have had. He's still very strong but there is no acceleration. Scheme - As mentioned by others, he played in a lot of 2 back/2 TE sets where we were trying to gain one yard, and other similar situations. For anyone to say it was not a combination of both, you are missing the big picture.
Locomark Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) a. He wasn't used in 11 formation b. he had pretty nominal receiving skills so teams didn't need to account for him in the passing game meaning they guessed run most times he was in there c. we used him between the tackles so teams didn't worry about setting the edge d. we always seems to run on 1st and 2nd down with him in there Edited March 20, 2020 by Locomark
Nextmanup Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, DFT said: Because he’s 184... Not much more complicated than that. He's old and his tank ran dry during the season. By the end, he didn't belong on an NFL field.
The Dean Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, BUNCH OF MULARKEY said: 1 hour ago, TroutDog said: Sign him! He’s a gamer! I'd need to see him take a few big hits before I'm completely convinced. 3
Artful Dodger Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 Older than Methusalah, who couldn't accelerate through the hole either after he turned 600.
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 I wont criticize franks production. I believe the more important role was mentoring to singletary and I respect that more then his production. 1
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Mister Defense said: This is a joke, right? In more ways than you might think.
Freak-O Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Phil The Thrill said: Makes sense. To me, it’s still frustrating how bad he was towards the end of the season. It’s like every time he touched the ball he gained a yard. Every time. I think I have NFL PTSD from watching Gore run the ball over the last few weeks. It’s was disgusting. I thought it was more like every time he touched the ball they went backwards, at least towards the end.
Julio Hopkins Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 Bad offensive line, old running back = no good
Troll Toll Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 Too predictable when he was in. Teams knew what to expect and rendered him useless.
Starr Almighty Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 I think the sweeps and runs outside the tackles that seemed to be called for him alot added to it
TigerJ Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 3 hours ago, GG said: Pretty simple. Singletary's injury forced them to use Gore much more than they expected. Fail. His touches went down after game 6. Instead of an average of 14+ touches per game, he was betting just over 9 touches down the stretch. Chandler's explanation is the simplest. As Singletary became the feature back, Gore had to transition to a short yardage specialist. Unfortunately, he often failed in that role. On a number of occasions, he failed to convert on third and short or fourth and short.
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