maryland-bills-fan Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) Quote I think Bean puts his team together by picking up underrated veterans and using the draft for a few all-pro-potential players, who can contribute or start their rookie season. In 2019 and 2018 each there were two significant trade ups. 2019 Cody Ford. We traded #40 (2nd round) and #158 (3rd round) to move up to #38.(2nd round) Draft value chart delta= -8 points (we lost 8 ) Knox We traded #112 and #131 (4th round picks) to move up to #96. Draft value chart delta= +4 2018 Allen We traded #12, #53 and #56 (one first and 2 seconds) to move up to #12. Draft value chart delta= -397 (middle of 2nd round value. ouch) Edmunds We traded #22 and #65 to move up to #16 and some change. Draft value chart delta= -11 All these player contribute and have started. QB is always a strange position. What might Bean be planning on doing this year? He doesn’t have all the extra draft picks to play too many times in 2020. Here are some possibilities DRAFT PICK # PICKED POINTS CASE1 CASE 2 CASE 3 CASE 4 ROUND 2 54 360 YES YES YES YES ROUND 3 86 160 YES YES x YES ROUND 4 118 58 x YES YES x ROUND 5 150 31 x x YES x #2 2021 #54? 180 x x x YES =========================================================================== We get: #38 #33 #45 #31 Move up= 16 21 9 23 I expect to see one of these trades happen, probably for a running back to spell Singletary. Edited March 20, 2020 by maryland-bills-fan
maryland-bills-fan Posted March 20, 2020 Author Posted March 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Codyny13 said: Too many numbers too early. Cliff's Notes: They can move up to the top of the second round. 4 3
First Round Bust Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 sure if there is a guy with a first-round grade that falls near the pick in the second round - but the RBs aren't a hot FA commodity as a lot of vets are still available and likely are having the market set their price not vice vera...standing still in the second to pick a CB or OL over a RB makes sense to me; Singletary was a 3rd rounder so maybe that is where the value lies 1
BuffaloBillies Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 I'd say leave next year's picks out of this. So much uncertainty about whether they'll even have a season this year, very sad to say.
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 I think the chart doesn't really work for high first round picks. Teams are squeezing a lot more out of those picks it seems.
TC in St. Louis Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 I'm pretty confident that if they target a specific guy in the 2nd, they'll figure out a way to get him.
Green Lightning Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 Appreciate the OPs work but stand pat unless there is an outstanding edge or RT prospect that slips out of the first round. RBs & receivers can come later.
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 Why are we always trying to trade up? To get the next Zay Jones? 2
Reed83HOF Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 gimme Greenard & Hall and I will be happy enough
2003Contenders Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 The team's MO -- even in prior regimes -- has been to move around in the 2nd round. Odds are pretty good that they will not be picking at 54 when it all said and done. If there is a guy they like with a 1st round grade, then I can see them moving up a bit.
mushypeaches Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 The short answer is that if they're smart, they don't trade up. Frankly, this might be a year to trade down and stockpile picks for future years. How many rookies do we need to make this team? Likely - not many 1
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 JMO, I wouldn't be in favor of trading up as high as you're proposing necessarily. My ideal scenario would be to keep picks #54 and #86 and then trade back into the third round as we did last year (to pick Knox). Imagine getting Chase Claypool, Bryce Hall, and AJ Dillon on Day 2. Think that's a realistic possibility with an extra 3rd rounder and that would be our WR4, CB2, and RB2 sorted. 2
3rdnlng Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 3 hours ago, mushypeaches said: The short answer is that if they're smart, they don't trade up. Frankly, this might be a year to trade down and stockpile picks for future years. How many rookies do we need to make this team? Likely - not many The present talent level including depth is damn good. I rather doubt that 7 draft picks can make this team. Trading up by giving up more picks for a higher one is acknowledging that good fortune and going for quality over quantity. 1
thunderingsquid Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 5 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Why are we always trying to trade up? To get the next Zay Jones? Sure, his name is Laviska Shenault
Just Joshin' Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 5 hours ago, Reed83HOF said: gimme Greenard & Hall and I will be happy enough A SI post FA (thus far) draft had Dobbins in the 2nd and Greenard in the 3rd. Not familiar with Greenard, what is your evaluation?
Pete Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 IMO we trade up back late 1st/early second and draft our highest rated RB. It could be Taylor, Swift, Dobbins, Edwards-Helaire, Moss. I am almost certain one of the above will be a Buffalo Bill. Depending who, we might need to trade up. RB1b is too much of a need. We can do better then Hyde. I'll take Hyde, and one of the aforementioned RBs. We need a play maker at RB. One who can take it to the house from our own 10. Or who can burn a Pat cb deep on a wheel route. Playmakers! Our offense needs play makers! 1
maryland-bills-fan Posted March 20, 2020 Author Posted March 20, 2020 8 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Why are we always trying to trade up? To get the next Zay Jones? To get the next Knox, Allen, Edmouns or Ford.
maryland-bills-fan Posted March 20, 2020 Author Posted March 20, 2020 7 hours ago, mushypeaches said: The short answer is that if they're smart, they don't trade up. Frankly, this might be a year to trade down and stockpile picks for future years. How many rookies do we need to make this team? Likely - not many That argument goes every year. They should not go after wild ass flyers, who might make the roster or not. We have spent the bunch of lower round draft picks that we got by dismantling the old roster. ... This year, I think, we will use draft script to get a #1 WR and some other guy in the bottom of the 1st or early 2nd. We need to stockpile pro-bowl level guys, 2 hours ago, Pete said: IMO we trade up back late 1st/early second and draft our highest rated RB. It could be Taylor, Swift, Dobbins, Edwards-Helaire, Moss. I am almost certain one of the above will be a Buffalo Bill. Depending who, we might need to trade up. RB1b is too much of a need. We can do better then Hyde. I'll take Hyde, and one of the aforementioned RBs. We need a play maker at RB. One who can take it to the house from our own 10. Or who can burn a Pat cb deep on a wheel route. Playmakers! Our offense needs play makers! My thoughts exactly. 1 minute ago, maryland-bills-fan said: That argument goes every year. They should not go after wild ass flyers, who might make the roster or not. We have spent the bunch of lower round draft picks that we got by dismantling the old roster. ... This year, I think, we will use draft script to get a #1 WR and some other guy in the bottom of the 1st or early 2nd. We need to stockpile pro-bowl level guys,
TPS Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 I don't think they will make a big jump, rather he will do what he's done before and use some of the later picks to move up a few slots in R2 or R3 to get a guy they like, or move up from R4 into R3. They can pick up their big WR, RB, and either an OL or CB in the first three picks.
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