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2 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

I never indicated the Chinese lied, Just they could and likely do. Who cares if someone shipped 40000 urns...that is my point to those who just want to find an enemy, like Saddam, got to find someone to blame.

Even if they lied, my point was our governments lie, Just do not demonize the Chinese over such a tragic circumstance. 

Wear a mask if you want to. If you don’t want to, then don’t . If they advise wearing masks, no one will be able to find them anyway. We still have morons hoarding toilet paper and disinfecting wipes.

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2 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

I never indicated the Chinese lied, Just they could and likely do. Who cares if someone shipped 40000 urns...that is my point to those who just want to find an enemy, like Saddam, got to find someone to blame.

Even if they lied, my point was our governments lie, Just do not demonize the Chinese over such a tragic circumstance. 


We shouldn’t demonize the Chinese? Why not? Because they actively ***** up the containment response to the initial outbreak, knew they screwed the pooch, then lied to the world about it? 
 

Or maybe we shouldn’t demonize them for running active concentration camps right now, or participating in ethnic cleansing, or how they kept their factories open by forcing the ethnic minority they’re trying to eradicate to work as slaves in the factories which were shut down when the virus hit? 
 

You’re right! China isn’t an evil regime who harvests the organs of their most vulnerable population for profit. The Chinese communist party isn’t actively culling “undesirables”, riding roughshod over their citizens innate civil liberties and freedoms as humans. 
 

They’re just misunderstood... right? 
 


 

 

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Putting this here too since it is going to be lost in the coronavirus thread:
 

South China University of Technology paper is being highlighted as it has been ignored by our media.
 

"One of the surest signs people are lying to you is when they answer questions you didn't ask. And that is exactly what the professional class is doing with this story."
 

 

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China, trying to rewrite the Wuhan Virus history.


Chinese propaganda is now citing US journalists' and Democrats' coronavirus rhetoric
 

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Democrats and members of the U.S. news media should be reconsidering their remarks defending and praising China amid the COVID-19 pandemic, especially now that those remarks are being highlighted by China’s aggressive and sophisticated propaganda machine.
 

The Global Times, a state-run Chinese tabloid, released a video recently highlighting various U.S. media personalities and Democratic leaders, who have pushed the Beijing-approved talking point that it is racist to refer to the virus by its country or city of origin.
 

The video features CNN's Chris Cuomo and NBC News’s Richard Engel. The Chinese-produced propaganda also cites failed two-time presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio.
 

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15 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

They just cannot be trusted. A global crisis and unscrupulous Chinese companies looking to capitalize. 

The more important questions is why do US consumers and businesses continue to buy anything from China

 

I know its cheaper - that's why it's Walmart's main source of product

 

If you are going to continue to chase the lowest cost product, then quit complaining about cheap quality

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1 minute ago, spartacus said:

The more important questions is why do US consumers and businesses continue to buy anything from China

 

 

Because they largely do not have a choice -- thanks to 30 years of globalization and offshoring. Pushed by people who were bought and paid for by the CCP (by and large). 

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Uh huh Let's see if the world (or at least the US) really does lean on China for  this, or if our "betters" are simply holding out for a higher price...
 

There is a video along with the article.
 

Lindsey Graham threatens US-Chinese trade over ‘disgusting’ wet markets


Sen. Lindsey Graham threatened that the US-China trade relationship will “change” if Beijing fails to shut down wet markets that sell wild, and at times live, animals that could transmit viruses to humans once eaten.
 

Speaking during an interview on “Fox & Friends” Tuesday, the Senate Judiciary Committee chairman said he would be writing a letter to the Chinese ambassador to tell him, “If you don’t shut those wet markets down, our trading relationship is going to change.”
 

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...sorry folks...despite Wuhan Chinese funeral homes ordering thousands of urns well beyond their "reported (COUGH) deaths, and the slimy WHO Prez in their back pocket, Sleepy Joe said "they are our friends"...if "Joe says so", convince me to doubt otherwise.......

 

China lied about coronavirus, putting world in jeopardy, US intelligence agents say

By Barnini Chakraborty | Fox News

 

As coronavirus cases have jumped in recent days, China misled the world by purposely underreporting its numbers of patients and deaths, three U.S. intelligence officials say.

In a classified report sent to the White House, the officials said that China's public record of COVID-19 infections was deliberately deceptive and incomplete.

Bloomberg, which first reported the news, cited three U.S. intelligence officers who they said they alerted the White House last week to Beijing's misleading numbers. Two of the three sources called the numbers flat-out fake.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-lied-coronavirus-cases-deaths-patients-intelligence

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31 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...sorry folks...despite Wuhan Chinese funeral homes ordering thousands of urns well beyond their "reported (COUGH) deaths, and the slimy WHO Prez in their back pocket, Sleepy Joe said "they are our friends"...if "Joe says so", convince me to doubt otherwise.......

 

China lied about coronavirus, putting world in jeopardy, US intelligence agents say

By Barnini Chakraborty | Fox News

 

As coronavirus cases have jumped in recent days, China misled the world by purposely underreporting its numbers of patients and deaths, three U.S. intelligence officials say.

In a classified report sent to the White House, the officials said that China's public record of COVID-19 infections was deliberately deceptive and incomplete.

Bloomberg, which first reported the news, cited three U.S. intelligence officers who they said they alerted the White House last week to Beijing's misleading numbers. Two of the three sources called the numbers flat-out fake.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-lied-coronavirus-cases-deaths-patients-intelligence

Find someone to blame. Shoot and ask questions later. Believe reporters when it suits you. Trust the CIA when it is convenient.

You may be losing 200,000 citizens in to the next 90 days. That is the same number lost over 10 yrs. In Vietnam.

You should be expecting the truth from your own government rather than worried about the number of urns in Wuhan. 

So the Chinese understated their problems....and others have not.??

Who gives a rat's butt. They also allow abortions but who cares.!! 

I am not a fan of China, but wasting time on blame is misdirected today.

Just protect yourself family and friends....stay safe.

If you survive you can go court if you can find a lawyer alive and a judge to hear you.

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2 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Find someone to blame. Shoot and ask questions later. Believe reporters when it suits you. Trust the CIA when it is convenient.

You may be losing 200,000 citizens in to the next 90 days. That is the same number lost over 10 yrs. In Vietnam.

You should be expecting the truth from your own government rather than worried about the number of urns in Wuhan. 

So the Chinese understated their problems....and others have not.??

Who gives a rat's butt. They also allow abortions but who cares.!! 

I am not a fan of China, but wasting time on blame is misdirected today.

Just protect yourself family and friends....stay safe.

If you survive you can go court if you can find a lawyer alive and a judge to hear you.

 

Still pushing the CCP line, eh, Bill? You should be ashamed. 

7 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:


We shouldn’t demonize the Chinese? Why not? Because they actively ***** up the containment response to the initial outbreak, knew they screwed the pooch, then lied to the world about it? 
 

Or maybe we shouldn’t demonize them for running active concentration camps right now, or participating in ethnic cleansing, or how they kept their factories open by forcing the ethnic minority they’re trying to eradicate to work as slaves in the factories which were shut down when the virus hit? 
 

You’re right! China isn’t an evil regime who harvests the organs of their most vulnerable population for profit. The Chinese communist party isn’t actively culling “undesirables”, riding roughshod over their citizens innate civil liberties and freedoms as humans. 
 

They’re just misunderstood... right? 
 


 

 

 

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President Xi Jinping made the extraordinary claim even as a peasant pushed a cart filled with dead bodies behind him, shouting, "Bring out your dead!" the entire time.

"No, no one is dead," President Xi assured the media. "We have completely cured everything." The communist dictator claimed they have cured the virus using sheep's bladders, which they also use to prevent earthquakes. His scientists also discovered the earth to be banana-shaped.

 

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3 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

China, trying to rewrite the Wuhan Virus history.


Chinese propaganda is now citing US journalists' and Democrats' coronavirus rhetoric
 

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Democrats and members of the U.S. news media should be reconsidering their remarks defending and praising China amid the COVID-19 pandemic, especially now that those remarks are being highlighted by China’s aggressive and sophisticated propaganda machine.
 

The Global Times, a state-run Chinese tabloid, released a video recently highlighting various U.S. media personalities and Democratic leaders, who have pushed the Beijing-approved talking point that it is racist to refer to the virus by its country or city of origin.
 

The video features CNN's Chris Cuomo and NBC News’s Richard Engel. The Chinese-produced propaganda also cites failed two-time presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio.
 

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Enemies of the people. Period. God it's hard being right all the damned time.

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52 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Still pushing the CCP line, eh, Bill? You should be ashamed. 

 

 

Ashamed for facing reality....haha

And now the Wizard of Orange is passing the baton to Spence and is off fighting illegal drug traffickers. He must have watched ZeroZeroZero on Prime and lost interest in 200000 citizens.

The Chinese with out a doubt did not scream loud enough or soon enough.

The wizard also ignored his own people from CDC in Jan. 

He beat his chest in Feb like a defensive end after a sack. Me superman!!

Who is most guilty....Who gives a fu...

Safe the 200000 and stop the politics 

You Rhino are the equivalent of a dinosaur and they are very popular in cartoon movies from Disney. 

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