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The Frankish Reich Hall of Famer

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Probably the best leverage we could have had against China on the economic side was through the Trans-Pacific Partnership that Obama negotiated.

Thanks to Bernie Sanders on the left (with Hillary being forced to join him in opposing it) and Trump on the right, we pulled out of the agreement.

And just to clear up a common misconception: the TPP did NOT include China. It would have allowed the USA and non-Chinese countries to expand trade among themselves, cutting China out.

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LeviF
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It's well-demonstrated now: people who thought the Cold War was over were idiots.  The USSR fell and the USA propped China up in its place to allow our corporations to exploit cheap labor and proto-ca

Deranged Rhino
Deranged Rhino

We shouldn’t demonize the Chinese? Why not? Because they actively ***** up the containment response to the initial outbreak, knew they screwed the pooch, then lied to the world about it?    Or

LeviF
LeviF

Which is quite the change from them bailing out multinationals that sold our interests to China.  Maybe it's time to start re-evaluating who the leftist policies in the country actually sought to bene

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  On 1/7/2021 at 9:27 PM, TBBills said:

Trump allowed China to gain this power. 

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Actually it was the Rs and the Ds doing backroom deals. China grew huge under Clinton, Bush and Obama. Trump was the only president to consider them an actual problem (to his credit). 

 

Oh and your quote is not how countries actually work unless you believe in WW3. 

 

Read the quote just above mine from Frankish Reich it's very good. 

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So... Parlor nut jobs are back.

 

Is China a threat - yes. Does just about every country in the world leverage their products - yes. Will it take time and a variety of leverage to counter them - yes. Was Trump tough on China - maybe.

 

For years the US has been positioning themselves and their allies to make a push back on China, part of the reasoning around the TPP was to provide alternatives to Chinese-dominated trade and supply chain options. Of course, Don the Con could not stand that effort because it was started by Obama so he sank it. Then launched a trade war with few if any partnerships and little or no global leverage.

 

I am not against a tougher stance on China - Australia was the first to sound the alarm on their more aggressive tactics, but I think it is something that has to be well thought out policy-wise, not something you approach half-cocked.

 

 

 

 

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  On 1/11/2021 at 8:29 PM, WideNine said:

So... Parlor nut jobs are back.

 

Is China a threat - yes. Does just about every country in the world leverage their products - yes. Will it take time and a variety of leverage to counter them - yes. Was Trump tough on China - maybe.

 

For years the US has been positioning themselves and their allies to make a push back on China, part of the reasoning around the TPP was to provide alternatives to Chinese-dominated trade and supply chain options. Of course, Don the Con could not stand that effort because it was started by Obama so he sank it. Then launched a trade war with few if any partnerships and little or no global leverage.

 

I am not against a tougher stance on China - Australia was the first to sound the alarm on their more aggressive tactics, but I think it is something that has to be well thought out policy-wise, not something you approach half-cocked.

 

 

 

 

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They just want a Trumpster to be the one doing it.

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B-Man Hall of Famer

B-Man

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With a helpful media, the left will just ignore this.

 

There aint a chance in in hell that anyone wakes up Joe to ask him.

 

 

 

 

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  On 3/3/2021 at 4:11 AM, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

With a helpful media, the left will just ignore this.

 

There aint a chance in in hell that anyone wakes up Joe to ask him.

 

 

 

 

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Will Trump close his bank accounts in China? Stop doing business? Will Ivanka return her trademarks?

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Over 29 years of fanhood

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With a helpful media, the left will just ignore this.

 

There aint a chance in in hell that anyone wakes up Joe to ask him.

 

 

 

 

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For a country that has long worked to devise methods of population control, and limiting kids per family, I’m not sure they thought this through. 

Over 29 years of fanhood Hall of Famer

Over 29 years of fanhood

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  On 3/4/2021 at 12:24 AM, JaCrispy said:

...Three weeks later...😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

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Was just listen to Bloomberg Asia recap on Bloomberg radio and They reported a paraphrased report out of Beijing that the PRC is very pleased with the new administrations soft tone and stance on trade and human rights. That’s coming from them, not some right wing outlet. 
 

take it for what you will. 

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  On 3/4/2021 at 1:43 AM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Was just listen to Bloomberg Asia recap on Bloomberg radio and They reported a paraphrased report out of Beijing that the PRC is very pleased with the new administrations soft tone and stance on trade and human rights. That’s coming from them, not some right wing outlet. 
 

take it for what you will. 

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Shocker!

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LeviF Hall of Famer

LeviF

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  On 3/19/2021 at 7:00 PM, snafu said:

Nice start to the US/China talks in Alaska :blink:.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/18/china-us-alaska-meeting-undiplomatic-477118

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56452471

 

https://www.ft.com/content/0b71b440-49b8-42e8-993e-9a58bc3b5da3

 

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Did you see the video with the B word with the purple hair at the American table? Does this regime know nothing at all about Chinese culture?

 

So ***** stupid. 

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  On 3/20/2021 at 3:52 PM, LeviF91 said:


Did you see the video with the B word with the purple hair at the American table? Does this regime know nothing at all about Chinese culture?

 

So ***** stupid. 

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So is Biden too tough on China now or still too soft?

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Trump_is_Mentally_fit

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All this talk by Republicans of wanting to stand up to China, yet, while China builds towards the 21st century, improving their infrastructure, modernizing and funding the latest technology, Republicans are horrified Biden wants us to try and stay in the race. 

 

Happy to see our country fall behind, thrilled to complain about it and do nothing, these people just spew hate and laugh as we ignore our own country's needs. 

 

Build Back Better! 

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Former Coca-Cola Employee Convicted of Stealing $120 Million Worth of Trade Secrets to Sell in China

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A Chinese-born American chemist was found guilty on April 22 for her role in a scheme to steal trade secrets worth an estimated $120 million from American companies for the purpose of setting up a Chinese company that would manufacture the product for the global market. After a 12-day trial, 59-year-old You Xiaorong—also known as Shannon You—of Lansing, Michigan, was convicted of conspiracy to commit trade secret theft, conspiracy to commit economic espionage, possession of stolen trade secrets, economic espionage, and wire fraud, (Snip) While working at two U.S. companies—Coca-Cola in Atlanta, Georgia, and Eastman Chemical Company in Kingsport, Tennessee—she stole trade secrets related to BPA-free (bisphenol-A) coating technology,

 

 

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/former-coca-cola-employee-convicted-of-stealing-120-million-worth-of-trade-secrets-to-sell-in-china_3788504.html?utm_source=News&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-04-23-3&mktids=13ba7deb8c901a589ed3576b221ad877&est=R6PkaTs4iBPROye8JSv2xS5rhRatpWik6QnnrRzw0Xx9xF3IzZudk2H2zs3%2BEEc%3D

LeviF Hall of Famer

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  On 4/6/2021 at 2:51 PM, Tiberius said:

All this talk by Republicans of wanting to stand up to China, yet, while China builds towards the 21st century, improving their infrastructure, modernizing and funding the latest technology, Republicans are horrified Biden wants us to try and stay in the race. 

 

Happy to see our country fall behind, thrilled to complain about it and do nothing, these people just spew hate and laugh as we ignore our own country's needs. 

 

Build Back Better! 

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We won’t see a ***** penny of those “infrastructure” dollars. Funding for “infrastructure” without specifics is a very transparent attempt to pay off political debts. 
 

And “staying in the race” while still tossing around H1Bs and other such favors as if they’re chocolate coins at a bar mitzvah is impossible. 

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