GunnerBill Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I think we're pretty much in a position now where there's no huge need that we absolutely need to address. I think WR might be BPA but I feel like we probably won't go that direction. I think safety/CB is the most likely direction. If Dugger/Winfield/maybe Chinn are there at 54, I would guess they're the pick. I still like Amik Robertson as a fit for us a lot but Round 2 might be too high for him. RB could also be BPA but I would probably pass unless one of the top 4 is there (Swift, Taylor, CEH, Dobbins). Agree on the running backs. If one of that top 4 guys is there I'd strongly consider. For me I think if there is an EDGE guy there that represents value that should be the pick. 1
GunnerBill Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: Thanks! Do you like him better than any of the CB or RB that are likely to be available at 54? It depends who is there.... I'd take Jonathan Taylor. If any of the other 3 top 4 backs are there I'd consider seriously. At corner..... if my guy Jaylon Johnson is there I'd be all over that pick. I think people's corner rankings tend to go: 1. Okudah, 2 and 3 Henderson and Fulton in some order and then a jumble of guys.... Diggs, Johnson, Gladney, Dantzler... it depends who is there.
DCOrange Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 40 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Agree on the running backs. If one of that top 4 guys is there I'd strongly consider. For me I think if there is an EDGE guy there that represents value that should be the pick. Agreed. I just personally don't like this edge class all that much, but it's not my speciality either. Seems like the general consensus is that Anae, Okwara, and Weaver could be decent options there -shrugs-
ghostwriter Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 54: R2P22 RB JONATHAN TAYLOR WISCONSIN 86: R3P22 EDGE ALTON ROBINSON SYRACUSE 128: R4P22 TE ALBERT OKWUEGBUNAM MISSOURI 155: R5P9 WR QUEZ WATKINS SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI 188: R6P9 WR ANTONIO GIBSON MEMPHIS 207: R6P28 CB STANFORD SAMUELS III FLORIDA STATE 239: R7P25 LB FRANCIS BERNARD UTAH 1
GunnerBill Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 2 hours ago, DCOrange said: Agreed. I just personally don't like this edge class all that much, but it's not my speciality either. Seems like the general consensus is that Anae, Okwara, and Weaver could be decent options there -shrugs- I don't love the edge class either. I think after Young every guy has some hole. I am probably higher than most on Anae, I'd consider Weaver.... I have a 3rd on Okwara so he would be too rich for my tastes at #54. If we go another direction and Okwara was there in the third then sure.
BillsFan17 Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Taylor Weaver Swift Jaylon Johnson Cam Dantzler
thunderingsquid Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 I would freak if Jonathan Taylor fell to us.
BUNCH OF MULARKEY Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, thunderingsquid said: I would freak if Jonathan Taylor fell to us. Looks like the best of the lot to me. Even if Beane moved up a few spots to get him. 2
BigBuff423 Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 My "crush" for the Draft will mirror life: will depend on my need and what's available. 2
Ayjent Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 22 hours ago, Lurker said: I think Edwards-Helaire would be a home run in the passing game, letalone what he can do as a runner. He's the closest thing to Turman Thomas I can recall in a long, long time running the wheel route... I think LaMichael Perine is a better player all around, bigger and more durable. He's also great in the passing game and played behind a line that couldn't run block for anything last year and still had a pretty good season. Also, more of a change of pace with Singletary. He may not have the shiftiness, but we've got that in Singletary. I think he is available still in the 3rd though so that the Bills can go OL in 2nd. I really think that is where the 2nd round pick should be focused, but at 54 you have to take the best value you can get wherever it is. 1
maryland-bills-fan Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 On 3/18/2020 at 2:06 PM, philholbroo said: 1-Trade back and get an extra 3rd. 2-Greenard, Duggar, Dantzler, Bredeson or Ruiz, but most of all Gandy-Golden. No. We should notice that they use the draft to shoot for homerun type players. They use cap space to get seasoned veterans who have shown they can play well, and do this rather than wasting time on good to okay college guys who might flame our or take 2-3 years to get up to speed. ... I'm pretty sure that they will trade UP rather than down, and might do something like trade the 4th & 5th and a 3rd next year to move up from #54. They would like to get somebody who could start and has all-pro potential.
maryland-bills-fan Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 On 3/18/2020 at 11:04 PM, Lurker said: https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/lsu-football/joe-burrow-clyde-edwards-helaire-lsu-best-athlete-2019/ Dan Patrick: “Who was the best athlete on the team?” Joe Burrow: “Clyde Edwards-Helaire.” Patrick: “No question?” Burrow: “No question.” Patrick: “Really?” Burrow: “(He’s) Unreal. He’s going to play for 20 years (in the NFL). Everyone looks at all my stats because we threw the ball so much, because we had great guys on the outside as well, but, I mean, Clyde is a different beast.” https://www.nfl.com/prospects/clyde-edwards-helaire?id=32194544-5781-5562-8963-df06e680f700 Strengths Ball security is outstanding Runs low to the ground with superb bend and balance 36 percent of his carries were for first downs or touchdowns in 2019 Can cut-and-go without stopping anywhere on field Quick gather and cut agility laterally or on downhill flow Has spin move, elongated jump cut, and sudden double cut in his bag Makes tacklers miss in a phone booth Instinctive eyes and feet make him unpredictable Alters run tempo at times to con flowing linebackers Squares pads and falls forward to finish Has instant access to burst and sharp one-cut angles Runs crisp routes out of backfield YAC are automatic Kick returner for three years Weaknesses Quick but doesn't have speed to house longer runs RPOs made linebackers more tentative early in run Smaller back as interior runner Average power near goal line or on short yardage Pure speed to the corner is just average Shorter arms with limited catch radius Needs to crank up commitment level in pass sets I would take him if he came to us at #54, but wouldn't move up for him because of his lack of size and flat out speed. He might be a great college player but so-so as a pro. Playing on a champion team, you wonder if the surounding players made him look good. On 3/18/2020 at 7:40 PM, billsfan89 said: Am I missing something or is Singletary not the lead back? The team shouldn't waste picks trading up for a back/role player need like RB. This team could use a corner or an edge rusher or even a WR much more than they need someone to take short yardage roles. Even a O-line pick is better. I am all for taking a RB in round 3 or 4 but not in round 2. I disagree. The team seems to like doing a rotation. Singletary is a smaller back and I think having a similar back take maybe a third of the plays would keep him fresher and reduce the chance of an injury either slowing him down, or making him play wounded the rest of the year.
Buffalo Junction Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 20 hours ago, GunnerBill said: It depends who is there.... I'd take Jonathan Taylor. If any of the other 3 top 4 backs are there I'd consider seriously. At corner..... if my guy Jaylon Johnson is there I'd be all over that pick. I think people's corner rankings tend to go: 1. Okudah, 2 and 3 Henderson and Fulton in some order and then a jumble of guys.... Diggs, Johnson, Gladney, Dantzler... it depends who is there. I think Bryce Hall is a bit of a sleeper as well. He’s a bit limited as far as fluidity and he didn’t run at the combine, and folks forgot about him after the injury. However, he’s a big smart and instinctive corner with leadership qualities and solid tackling. Would fit for zone schemes and as a corner/safety hybrid. I see him coming into play mid 2nd round. 2
Lurker Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, maryland-bills-fan said: I would take him if he came to us at #54, but wouldn't move up for him because of his lack of size and flat out speed. He might be a great college player but so-so as a pro. Playing on a champion team, you wonder if the surounding players made him look good. He's a dynamic runner but where I think he's going to really be an outstanding pro is in the passing game. He just reminds me so much of Thurman Thomas everytime I see him make a catch. Add that skill set to the Bills and you've got the next best thing to KC in terms of "which weapon do you cover" from a defensive game planning situation. And if he can get 8-10 runs a game to spell Singletary, you've got one hell of a dangerous backfield. Add a low-cost vet as the sledgehammer goal line specialist and boom... 1
ghostwriter Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 56 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: If a guy like Aiyuk is there you'd have the potential to go from one of the worst WR groups in the league to one of the best in one year with terrific depth..... again, the defense was the strength of this team and they've already made moves to ensure they stay there, they need to do more to improve the offense. I suspect you are right though considering how this regime is more defense oriented.... I don't expect WR or even RB at 54. That’s very true. I like Aiyuk a lot but I can’t see us passing on Taylor or Dobbins. Aiyuk would be my third option, he’ll be a great player, reminds me of Chad Johnson. 1
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