Smitty75 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 The only offensive player that we had is our future N°1 WR, seems pretty legit to me without forgotten that we lost a few defensives players so it's logical to me that we'll bring more defensive guys after this.
Kirby Jackson Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) The numbers had to be on defense and the most important move had to be a number 1 receiver. The offense was always going to be attacked in the draft. I decided to do a simulated draft (because I’m bored) after reading this thread. I set it to difficult and don’t pay for the ability to trade (I’m too cheap). In reality though the Bills probably don’t use this many picks. Regardless, I would LOVE this roster at that point. Here’s what they came out of the draft with: 54: R2P22 RB JONATHAN TAYLOR WISCONSIN 86: R3P22 WR LYNN BOWDEN KENTUCKY 128: R4P22 EDGE KENNY WILLEKES MICHIGAN STATE 155: R5P9 LB EVAN WEAVER CALIFORNIA 188: R6P9 OT TREY ADAMS WASHINGTON 207: R6P28 S J.R. REED GEORGIA 239: R7P25 CB AMIK ROBERTSON LOUISIANA TECH Edited March 18, 2020 by Kirby Jackson 1
vincec Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Defensive moves have been strong. I would still look to draft a DE early as well. They do need more offensive FA help though. They need another veteran OT to compete with Ford and Nsekhe and a veteran RB as well. A veteran TE wouldn't hurt either.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Offense: Diggs (Re-signed Spain) Defense: Norman Addison Klein Matakevich Jefferson Butler (Extended Poyer) Is McBeane always going to prioritize defense first? Going into this, all of the analysis was that the Bills needed to build the offense, but apparently McBeane had other plans. You can talk about the draft all you want, but those returns aren't usually immediate. There's a saying - Defense Wins Championships. "Defense wins championships" grew up in decades when the saying was true on its face. The great teams of the '60s, '70s and '80s lived by their defenses. The Packer teams from the first two Super Bowls finished ranked first and third in scoring defense but only sixth and ninth on offense. The '72 and '73 Dolphins ranked first on defense in both seasons. The Steeler teams of '74, '75 and '78 finished first or second on defense each season. The '85 Bears and '86 Giants finished first and second on defense. Although during these decades, teams mixed in that were substantially higher ranked on defense than on offense such as the '77 Cowboys, the maxim was generally valid. The Ravens on the league in 2000 with a legendary defense and mediocre offense as did the 2002 Buccaneers and 2003 Patriots. Edited March 18, 2020 by SlimShady'sGhost
Foxx Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 7 hours ago, ganesh said: Frank Gore, Isiah McKenzie, ... who?
Mr. WEO Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 10 hours ago, inaugural balls said: Diggs>Green on IR fixed
stinky finger Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: fixed We’ve seen the best of Green.
The Firebaugh Kid Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 11 hours ago, Logic said: He said going into the offseason that he wanted to get more "touchdown makers" for the offense. They've only added one so far. I expect additions at running back (FA and draft) and WR (draft), and a McKenzie-type gadget player now that they didn't tender him. Beane is far from done. Have faith. Shenault at 54 is a real possibility. 1
Mr. WEO Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, inaugural balls said: We’ve seen the best of Green. who's we?
Pete Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 13 hours ago, FarrellsFinest said: I would love to see us draft offense. WR, TE, and RB. They wont have any pressure to come in and contribute and they could learn in a reserve capacity. pick 2 RB pick 3 WR pick 4 QB
stinky finger Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: who's we? I’ll compile a list for you. Would you like it in triplicate?
ngbills Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 4 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: There's a saying - Defense Wins Championships. "Defense wins championships" grew up in decades when the saying was true on its face. The great teams of the '60s, '70s and '80s lived by their defenses. The Packer teams from the first two Super Bowls finished ranked first and third in scoring defense but only sixth and ninth on offense. The '72 and '73 Dolphins ranked first on defense in both seasons. The Steeler teams of '74, '75 and '78 finished first or second on defense each season. The '85 Bears and '86 Giants finished first and second on defense. Although during these decades, teams mixed in that were substantially higher ranked on defense than on offense such as the '77 Cowboys, the maxim was generally valid. The Ravens on the league in 2000 with a legendary defense and mediocre offense as did the 2002 Buccaneers and 2003 Patriots. Funny the last teams you listed were ion 2003...that was 17 years ago right? Look at the last 15-20 super bowls and teams score in the 30's in the majority of them. A few random low scoring games but most have been won via offense and featured strong offensive teams.
IgotBILLStopay Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Offense: Diggs (Re-signed Spain) Defense: Norman Addison Klein Matakevich Jefferson Butler (Extended Poyer) Is McBeane always going to prioritize defense first? Going into this, all of the analysis was that the Bills needed to build the offense, but apparently McBeane had other plans. You can talk about the draft all you want, but those returns aren't usually immediate. we did re-sign a bunch of players on offense - Spencer Long option, Quinton Spain re-sign, Foster re-sign, restructured Kroft, Croom extension. Continuity is a good thing. also signed TE Nate Becker, WR Nick Easley, WR Ray-Ray McCloud, OT Victor Salako, RB Christian Wade and QB Davis Webb to reserve/future contracts. We had new holes on defense / ST - departures of Shaq, Phillips and retirement of Lorax - but no real new holes on offense - only WR1 which was a carryover hole. That being said, we aint done - we may still go RB / Oline / TE in the rest of FA / Draft. Edited March 18, 2020 by IgotBILLStopay
Mr. WEO Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 53 minutes ago, inaugural balls said: I’ll compile a list for you. Would you like it in triplicate? sure. Anyway, hopefully on the Bills, Diggs turns out to be AJ Green. So far, he's been more like Sammy Watkins.
PromoTheRobot Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Offense: Diggs (Re-signed Spain) Defense: Norman Addison Klein Matakevich Jefferson Butler (Extended Poyer) Is McBeane always going to prioritize defense first? Going into this, all of the analysis was that the Bills needed to build the offense, but apparently McBeane had other plans. You can talk about the draft all you want, but those returns aren't usually immediate. Didn't we sign Morse, Beasley, Brown and about a dozen O-linemen last year? Edited March 18, 2020 by PromoTheRobot
BillsCelticsAngelsBama Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 15 hours ago, Tatonka68 said: Draft best RB in 2nd round, best OL in 3rd round. Done. I might reverse the order but like the thought?
stinky finger Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 47 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: sure. Anyway, hopefully on the Bills, Diggs turns out to be AJ Green. So far, he's been more like Sammy Watkins. Diggs’ youth, skill set and contract are exactly what this team needs right now. If that is equal to Green’s career, so be it. Green has been great. moving forward however - SD fits us perfectly. I don’t quite get the SW comparison - and that’s fine.
Mr. WEO Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, inaugural balls said: Diggs’ youth, skill set and contract are exactly what this team needs right now. If that is equal to Green’s career, so be it. Green has been great. moving forward however - SD fits us perfectly. I don’t quite get the SW comparison - and that’s fine. the comparison was that both are very talented, but haven't produced to that potential, and have played as their teams' non-primary receiver for the most part of their careers. But yes, he's definitely so much better than any WR already on the roster and they had to do something more significant with WR 4 years into this rebuild. Edited March 18, 2020 by Mr. WEO
Shaw66 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: the comparison was that both are very talented, but haven't produced to that potential, and have played as their teams' non-primary receiver for the most part of their careers. But yes, he's definitely so much better than any WR already on the roster and they had to do something more significant with WR 4 years into this rebuild. I don't know the Vikes that well, but it always seemed to me that they essentially had two primary receivers. That's what was tough about them together, and that's why Cousins has been a disappointment. I think Green has struggled to be a #1 who made a difference for his team, and Watkins clearly failed at being a #1, period. I think Diggs has been more of a difference maker for his team, and he comfortable in the role of "the" guy. Brown never has had quite enough to take over a game when the team needed it, but he's a devastating weapon as #2 receiver. And it takes pressure off of Beasley. He's going to go back to what he's best at: being a pesky little guy who threatens to sting you every play. Ask your self this: rank the following players in order of the guy you'd like as your #2 receiver. That is, assuming you're happy with your number 1 guy, and you could choose any of these three, which would it be? Robert Woods, Cole Beasley, John Brown. For me, it's Brown in a heartbeat, and that's from someone who always admired Woods. Beasley is a distant third. I think the Bills are ending up with starting receivers who now each is playing the role on the team that he's best at. I really like the comment about having to finally address a position that some fans thought was stepchild. I think it's really the third year of the rebuild, but we skip that argument. Whatever you call it, they just couldn't wait any longer. And it's a major statement from Bills' management saying "we're here now. Not 2021, we're here now." It's a statement to Josh, a challenge. The lack of attention to the Oline is a statement and a challenge to the oline. It says to the oline "we're all in on you, or else we would have gone after help. We traded out of #1 because we don't need a #1 to replace any of you." It's a statement to the fans, and to the owners. It's a statement that says to everyone "we can win now. We aren't done getting better, but we can win now." The deal says McBeane think they already are good enough to compete for it all, and they aren't done. Not having made the deal and getting the best receiver at #22 would have said "we're still building," because that guy is quite likely not going make a difference in 2020. Might play, but not make a difference. But the Diggs deal says they don't think they have to wait to win a lot. And I think the moves on the defense says exactly the same thing. It says we need to get some guys in here to plug some holes, and we'll be fine. Free agency begins and BINGO! some serious hole-plugging and more additions join the team. All of it screams that they're ready. 1
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