Bills trade for Diggs - jw no discussions on a restructure

[Nanker]

Thanks for the memories @Bob in STL

 

let’s not forget Meggit’s run on 3rd and 19 on the Jints opening 2nd half drive that Talley didn’t wrap him up short, which would have forced a punt. Instead they drove for a score taking something like 13.5 minutes off the clock.

 

[atlbillsfan1975]

5 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Not practicing during the week?  WTF? 

Julio does the same thing in Atlanta.

 

Edited March 23, 2020 by atlbillsfan1975

[Motorin']

1 hour ago, Bob in STL said:

 

All we needed to do win the first SB was to hand the ball the Thurman.  They played a 3-2 defense with extra DB's in a zone to take away deep balls and the crossing routes.

 

We ran all over them but it was just too late … our offensive coaches did not call a good game at all.   It was easy to run out of the K-gun and we could have forced the Giants go back to their 3-4 which would of then opened up the passing lanes.  

 

We gave up 20 points.  Our offense was never on the field and our defense was tired and worn.  That was a contributor to all the missed tackles in the 3rd and 4th quarter. 

 

Blaming Jeff Wright is revisionist history and incorrect.  We played 90% of the game exactly they way they wanted us to.  We had the better team but Parcells and Bellichek completely outcoached our staff.  That is why we lost.

 

 

I don't disagree that the main reason we lost Super Bowl 25 was due to being out coached, for the precise reasons you mentioned. 

 

But I'm still stating a fact, the glaring weakness on the Bills defense during the Super Bowl years was our 270lbs NT. That's why the Giants, Redskins and Cowboys could run the ball down our throats. Their Olines had clear size advantages and we didn't have a space eating run stuffer on D. 

[Chandler#81]

8 hours ago, Bob in STL said:

 

All we needed to do win the first SB was to hand the ball the Thurman.  They played a 3-2 defense with extra DB's in a zone to take away deep balls and the crossing routes.

 

We ran all over them but it was just too late … our offensive coaches did not call a good game at all.   It was easy to run out of the K-gun and we could have forced the Giants go back to their 3-4 which would of then opened up the passing lanes.  

 

We gave up 20 points.  Our offense was never on the field and our defense was tired and worn.  That was a contributor to all the missed tackles in the 3rd and 4th quarter. 

 

Blaming Jeff Wright is revisionist history and incorrect.  We played 90% of the game exactly they way they wanted us to.  We had the better team but Parcells and Bellichek completely outcoached our staff.  That is why we lost.

 

 

Giants played an innovative 2-5 Defense. Their DC was considered an Up & Comer in the League. Some guy named Bill..

8 hours ago, Nanker said:

Thanks for the memories @Bob in STL

 

let’s not forget Meggit’s run on 3rd and 19 on the Jints opening 2nd half drive that Talley didn’t wrap him up short, which would have forced a punt. Instead they drove for a score taking something like 13.5 minutes off the clock.

 

Fairly certain you’re referencing WR Mark Ingram’s 3rd & 19 catch & run.

 

C’mon, guys! You’re giving us duffers a bad name with your memory loss issues.?

[Doc Brown]

15 hours ago, Bob in STL said:

 

All we needed to do win the first SB was to hand the ball the Thurman.  They played a 3-2 defense with extra DB's in a zone to take away deep balls and the crossing routes.

 

We ran all over them but it was just too late … our offensive coaches did not call a good game at all.   It was easy to run out of the K-gun and we could have forced the Giants go back to their 3-4 which would of then opened up the passing lanes.  

 

We gave up 20 points.  Our offense was never on the field and our defense was tired and worn.  That was a contributor to all the missed tackles in the 3rd and 4th quarter. 

 

Blaming Jeff Wright is revisionist history and incorrect.  We played 90% of the game exactly they way they wanted us to.  We had the better team but Parcells and Bellichek completely outcoached our staff.  That is why we lost.

 

 

I love how this thread turned into rehashing a game from 30 years ago.  It's still easiest to blame Norwood.  Kick the ball 4 feet to the left and nobody's talking about the Parcells/Belichick genius game plan.

[auburnbillsbacker]

The more I read about the trade the more I like it.  It seemed like a hefty price at first.  When you consider the draft capital it would have taken to go from 22 to a spot where one of the tier one guys would be it makes the price seem a lot better. 

[WhoTom]

3 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

I love how this thread turned into rehashing a game from 30 years ago.  It's still easiest to blame Norwood.  Kick the ball 4 feet to the left and nobody's talking about the Parcells/Belichick genius game plan.

 

A lot of games come down to one play, but we tend to remember the last play the most. How about these?

 

Run the ball one more time on the last drive instead of passing it and Norwood makes the shorter FG.

 

Recover a fumble in the end zone and it's a TD instead of a safety, and we don't even need the FG.

 

There were plenty of other mistakes, any one of which could shoulder the blame on its own.

 

[Doc Brown]

3 hours ago, WhoTom said:

 

A lot of games come down to one play, but we tend to remember the last play the most. How about these?

 

Run the ball one more time on the last drive instead of passing it and Norwood makes the shorter FG.

 

Recover a fumble in the end zone and it's a TD instead of a safety, and we don't even need the FG.

 

There were plenty of other mistakes, any one of which could shoulder the blame on its own.

 

Nah.  Just make the damn field goal.

[ModQuestion]

@Hapless Bills Fan  or @Chandler#81please PM me.  I can't PM you.  I have a question.  

Edited March 24, 2020 by ModQuestion

[Chandler#81]

28 minutes ago, ModQuestion said:

@Hapless Bills Fan  or @Chandler#81please PM me.  I can't PM you.  I have a question.  

Not with that handle, Buckwheat.

[ModQuestion]

1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said:

Not with that handle, Buckwheat.

 

its just a quick question, not hostile.  I promise! 

 

I'll copy and paste you what I sent to Hapless 

 

 

[Coach Tuesday]

Now I'm intrigued!!

[stevewin]

13 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Now I'm intrigued!!

Land for sale east of Buffalo

[The Dean]

16 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Giants played an innovative 2-5 Defense. Their DC was considered an Up & Comer in the League. Some guy named Bill..

Fairly certain you’re referencing WR Mark Ingram’s 3rd & 19 catch & run.

 

C’mon, guys! You’re giving us duffers a bad name with your memory loss issues.?

 

 

THAT'S the reason the Bills lost that SB, IMO. Unforgivable.

[Cripple Creek]

49 minutes ago, The Dean said:

 

 

THAT'S the reason the Bills lost that SB, IMO. Unforgivable.

The hell it was.

[The Dean]

2 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

The hell it was.

 

Count the missed tackles. Take him down and game is won.

[Cripple Creek]

1 hour ago, The Dean said:

 

Count the missed tackles. Take him down and game is won.

JK's ego lost that game & Belichick knew it would. 

 

 

But, back to Diggs.  Very happy to have him and I'm really looking forward to hearing from him.

[BringBackFergy]

1 hour ago, Cripple Creek said:

I'm really looking forward to hearing from him.

When?

[Cripple Creek]

4 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

When?

In the coming days I suspect.

[The Dean]

2 hours ago, Cripple Creek said:

JK's ego lost that game & Belichick knew it would. 

 

 

But, back to Diggs.  Very happy to have him and I'm really looking forward to hearing from him.

 

JK didn't miss a tackle on that play.