Dont Stop Billeiving Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Doc said: Actually the total points (836.6) don't even get you to pick 20 (850) as the 4th rounder next year is equivalent to the Bills' spot in the 5th round this year. Thought i heard pick #18 on a podcast but I trust your math. Even better, cheers buddy. You happy with the trade then?
Doc Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Dont Stop Billeiving said: Thought i heard pick #18 on a podcast but I trust your math. Even better, cheers buddy. You happy with the trade then? Yeah, they're falsely claiming that the 4th next year is worth a 4th this year. That's not how it works. Yes I'm happy. They need/were going to add another WR and I figured they'd take one in the 1st, despite all the talk of how deep a draft this is and the possibility of getting a stud later. Looking at the latest CBS mock draft, they have 4 WR's going in the top 21 (Jeudy, Ruggs and Lamb in the top-13 and Jefferson at 21), meaning the Bills might only have had a shot at the 5th best WR at 22, but for sure the best it would have been is the 4th. I am also skeptical of their ability to draft WRs, not to mention that with the fewer and fewer practices and especially what will be a truncated off-/pre-season, the rookie WR's won't have enough time to get up to speed, if they ever do. That won't be a problem with/for Diggs. 2 1
Motor26 Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc said: Yeah, they're falsely claiming that the 4th next year is worth a 4th this year. That's not how it works. Yes I'm happy. They need/were going to add another WR and I figured they'd take one in the 1st, despite all the talk of how deep a draft this is and the possibility of getting a stud later. Looking at the latest CBS mock draft, they have 4 WR's going in the top 21 (Jeudy, Ruggs and Lamb in the top-13 and Jefferson at 21), meaning the Bills might only have had a shot at the 5th best WR at 22, but for sure the best it would have been is the 4th. I am also skeptical of their ability to draft WRs, not to mention that with the fewer and fewer practices and especially what will be a truncated off-/pre-season, the rookie WR's won't have enough time to get up to speed, if they ever do. That won't be a problem with/for Diggs. Draft is so deep with Receivers they can get a guy in the 2nd/3rd/4th who can make an impact for them. The reason I love this trade for the Bills. Fills an immediate need with a proven player, NOW. 1
Doc Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 34 minutes ago, Motor26 said: Draft is so deep with Receivers they can get a guy in the 2nd/3rd/4th who can make an impact for them. The reason I love this trade for the Bills. Fills an immediate need with a proven player, NOW. Sure but the trick is identifying them. As I said, I’m skeptical of their ability to scout wide receivers.
Fan in Chicago Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 36 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That's pretty sweet. ?
par73 Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 I hate losing a 1st, and have concern about how Diggs will react if Allen has trouble hitting him (relationship with Cousins had soured). Whether this trade will be a success depends on the QB upping his game. 1
Alphadawg7 Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, par73 said: I hate losing a 1st, and have concern about how Diggs will react if Allen has trouble hitting him (relationship with Cousins had soured). Whether this trade will be a success depends on the QB upping his game. Um you lose a first round pick every time you use it to draft a player. We essentially just drafted a proven stud and top 10 WR with our first round pick in Diggs. Draft pick = 1 player. Instead of drafting an unproven player at same position who statistically odds are won’t ever be as good as Diggs, we drafted an elite proven talented instead in Diggs. So why do you hate “using” our first to get 1 PROVEN player vs using the same first to get 1 unproven rookie at same position who most likely won’t ever be as good as Diggs? Edited March 19, 2020 by Alphadawg7 11 1
HOUSE Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 I think its important to point out that Buffalo is no longer in the rebuilding mode and some of these low draft picks can no longer make the team. What the Bills need now is impact players and they certainly got one in Diggs. 6 1
Matt_In_NH Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Um you lose a first round pick every time you use it to draft a player. We essentially just drafted a proven stud and top 10 WR with our first round pick in Diggs. Draft pick = 1 player. Instead of drafting an unproven player at same position who statistically odds are won’t ever be as good as Diggs, we drafted an elite proven talented instead in Diggs. So why do you hate “using” our first to get 1 PROVEN player vs using the same first to get 1 unproven rookie at same position who most likely won’t ever be as good as Diggs? Thanks for pointing this out. I am sure the poster did not know you get a player with a draft pick. Deep insight!
Chandler#81 Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 30 minutes ago, mattynh said: Thanks for pointing this out. I am sure the poster did not know you get a player with a draft pick. Deep insight! Well, it did seem pretty witless.. 1
Smitty75 Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: I think its important to point out that Buffalo is no longer in the rebuilding mode and some of these low draft picks can no longer make the team. What the Bills need now is impact players and they certainly got one in Diggs. Perfectly said nothing to add !
GaryPinC Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Looking at the way Diggs goes about his work, I think the guy is Uber-competitive and wants to win. I think he shares that with Allen and thus they should get along great, especially with McDermott's culture and that should take care of the negatives with Diggs. 1
Doc Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 7 hours ago, par73 said: I hate losing a 1st, and have concern about how Diggs will react if Allen has trouble hitting him (relationship with Cousins had soured). Whether this trade will be a success depends on the QB upping his game. If he causes trouble, you cut him. He’s got no guaranteed money from the Bills at present. Like how they wanted to do with Brown, but he refused.
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 7 hours ago, par73 said: I hate losing a 1st, and have concern about how Diggs will react if Allen has trouble hitting him (relationship with Cousins had soured). Whether this trade will be a success depends on the QB upping his game. Typical Buffalo fan afraid of getting elite talent syndrome 6
DJB Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 15 hours ago, wppete said: Pretty sure that was Tre White on team Diggs there. 2
ghostwriter Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 How do you guys think Stefon Diggs will match up against Stephon Gilmore’s and Byron Jones’ of the division? Is he good enough to produce against the upper echelon of corners?
BeastMaster Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 58 minutes ago, Doc said: If he causes trouble, you cut him. He’s got no guaranteed money from the Bills at present. Like how they wanted to do with Brown, but he refused. Cut a guy we traded a first rounder for? Yikes!
Doc Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 53 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: Typical Buffalo fan afraid of getting elite talent syndrome It's more "well, that team that player for less so why did we have to give up a 1st..." 1 minute ago, BeastMaster said: Cut a guy we traded a first rounder for? Yikes! That's obviously worst-case scenario. But all teams have cut/traded 1st round picks, and usually with large guaranteed/dead money.
Franco_92 Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) Allen gave both Brown (over 1000 yards) and Beasley career years at the same time, while ending the season a markedly better QB than he was in the first quarter of it. He will be better next year too. Josh may wind up not being the answer, but Diggs will be incredibly productive either way. Allen will be more consistent getting him the ball than the Vikings offense was Edited March 19, 2020 by arcane 1
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