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2 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

How many years left on the Hopkins deal? Diggs has a big FOUR years left, too soon for much leverage. Hopkins literally might be looking for double what Diggs will be making after the Cooper deal. Keep that in mind when you consider the trade compensation! 

Rumor on Hopkins was $20M and I think 3 left

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Just now, Reed83HOF said:

Rumor on Hopkins was $20M and I think 3 left

 

Wanting that money with 3 years left would make me want to let him sit. Seriously, even if he was ours. It would hurt me less than it would hurt him.  I was in favor of letting Bruce sit on his couch most of the time when he held out. I’m just that way. 

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5 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

Rumor on Hopkins was $20M and I think 3 left

 

 

he has 3 years left and his cap hit is 12.5 13.5 and almost 14 his last year. This just shows how terrible of a trade this was for the texans

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Just now, SloanBillsFan said:

Not completely happy with the cost in picks. Last WR the Bills bet the farm on didn't do so well...for the Bills anyway even though he's got a ring now.. 

 

:rolleyes:

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Just now, Doc said:

 

:rolleyes:

It's amazing how much we value picks on this board - I want players, elite ones at that

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46 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

This year Buffalo had 2 5th rounders, and 3 6th rounders.  After the trade Buffalo still has 7 picks.  The 4th round pick is for 2021.  The draft is important.  Beane out bid 2 other teams for a #1 wr and didnt mortgage the draft to do it.

They didn't mortgage the draft because they still have 7 picks?  There is no first round pick left, they gave up #22 plus 3 other picks.  That #22 is an impact player that is a bargain for 4 years with a 5th year option.  Arizona got a better player for a #2.  I would have preferred not giving up a #1.  I dont think its all that relevant how many they had, they earned those...you dont go around giving away picks because you have extra.   I think the compensation was too much but I like the player.  I will move on, nothing I can do.

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1 minute ago, SloanBillsFan said:

Not completely happy with the cost in picks. Last WR the Bills bet the farm on didn't do so well...for the Bills anyway even though he's got a ring now.. 

Doug Whaley was GM then, Beane has earned my trust in spades. He seems to have a clue, I truly believe the Bills have one of the top 2-3 FO in the league now.

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Just now, Reed83HOF said:

It's amazing how much we value picks on this board - I want players, elite ones at that

 

well after all those years of nothing i think people have been very attached to draft picks and potential picks

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8 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

How many years left on the Hopkins deal? Diggs has a big FOUR years left, too soon for much leverage. Hopkins literally might be looking for double what Diggs will be making after the Cooper deal. Keep that in mind when you consider the trade compensation! 

That really is the argument about value of the trade.

Mine was that hate giving away a 1st round pick. But the financials are awesome for the Bills.

 Beane did very well again, went all in for Josh Allens future.

without mortgaging the cap

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11 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said:

It's amazing how much we value picks on this board - I want players, elite ones at that

 

Draft picks are like Lottery Tickets. Give me some winners and I’m all good. 

 

 

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17 hours ago, ExWNYer said:

 

They had 9 picks prior to the trade. They now have a proven 26 year old commodity on a good contract in Diggs (minus their #1 which was possibly going for the 4th or 5th best WR prospect in this class at 22) and still have 7 picks to either use, move up and down the board, or spin off for future picks. The #4 next year may be recouped in the form of a comp pick(s) or via a trade(s) of players slated for cuts like last year.

 

Diggs + 7 picks in 2020 > 9 picks in 2020

 

This take is an overreaction on your part, IMO.

 

Opinion? Reads factual.

 

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4 minutes ago, SloanBillsFan said:

Not completely happy with the cost in picks. Last WR the Bills bet the farm on didn't do so well...for the Bills anyway even though he's got a ring now.. 

 

No fear Sloan, it's going to be all right.

 

Are you a JFK grad?

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Just now, 3rdand12 said:

That really is the argument about value of the trade.

Mine was that hate giving away a 1st round pick. But the financials are awesome for the Bills.

 Beane did very well again, went all in for Josh Allens future.

without mortgaging the cap

 

It's really nice to finally have cap space the team can work with. They will probably have close to 80 mill next year 

1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

No fear Sloan, it's going to be all right.

 

Are you a JFK grad?

 

I did in 04

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1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said:

It's amazing how much we value picks on this board - I want players, elite ones at that

 

The funniest part is they would gladly take a WR at 20th overall, which is what the value of the picks is.  On someone wholly unproven and probably the 4th or 5th best WR in the draft.

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1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

The funniest part is they would gladly take a WR at 20th overall, which is what the value of the picks is.  On someone wholly unproven and probably the 4th or 5th best WR in the draft.

It always was move for the top 3 or wait until RD2; those prospects at #22 no way. He is only 26 and just entering his prime! I mean come on!

But being fair, BoB's incompetence made this look like an awful trade on our part; it was his trade that was awful

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26 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:

I'm not sure what Wawrow's point is here.  Digg's is under contract for 4 more years?  Why before he has done one thing in a Bills uniform?

 

Is he getting at an extension to lower the cap hit/year?


A trade basically leaves the player with no guaranteed money left on his deal aside from guaranteed base salary.

 

A restructure is common to convert future base salary into signing bonus to add some incentives if the player wasn’t jazzed about being moved.

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