H2o Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, TwistofFate said: The Bills just sent the Vikings four picks, including a first-rounder, to acquire Diggs. Those picks are worth 21.9 points on Chase Stuart's draft value chart, which is something close to the eighth overall pick in a typical draft. http://www.footballperspective.com/ This has been discussed, it's more like the 18th pick. Show anyone who has ever dropped from 8 to 22 by just gaining a 4th, 5th, and 6th. It's never happened. 2 1
BeastMaster Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, H2o said: This has been discussed, it's more like the 18th pick. Show anyone who has ever dropped from 8 to 22 by just gaining a 4th, 5th, and 6th. It's never happened. True story. Whoever said that value would work is a moron 2
Watkins101 Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, TwistofFate said: The Bills just sent the Vikings four picks, including a first-rounder, to acquire Diggs. Those picks are worth 21.9 points on Chase Stuart's draft value chart, which is something close to the eighth overall pick in a typical draft. http://www.footballperspective.com/ And once again, NO ONE WOULD MAKE THAT TRADE. The value of those picks are around pick 18. If you think I'm wrong, try finding a trade that would be similar values.
TwistofFate Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Watkins101 said: And once again, NO ONE WOULD MAKE THAT TRADE. The value of those picks are around pick 18. If you think I'm wrong, try finding a trade that would be similar values. Once again its the VALUE of the picks!!!!
Dante Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 Now lets get Melvin Gordon. Nice 1-2 punch with Singletary! 1
BuffaloHokie13 Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, TwistofFate said: Once again its the VALUE of the picks!!!! But it isn't by any chart except that jank site you posted. Every other chart puts the value between 16 and 19 1
Billl Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 It costs what it costs. Bills fans are going to need to adjust to the new paradigm that is 'win now mode'. This team should be a top 5 AFC team easily next year and likely top 3 now that Houston has imploded. Enjoy the ride and don't worry about the cost. You'll cross that bridge when it comes.
Watkins101 Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, TwistofFate said: Once again its the VALUE of the picks!!!! If it is the value of the picks, then there clearly would be trades, as that is how markets work.
H2o Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, TwistofFate said: Once again its the VALUE of the picks!!!! It's completely inaccurate is the point my friend
Philo Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, TwistofFate said: Once again its the VALUE of the picks!!!! Imagine thinking a couple of Day 3 picks is all it takes to trade up into the top 10 from the bottom of the round. Nonsense.
Boatdrinks Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, TwistofFate said: Once again its the VALUE of the picks!!!! Charts are all well and good as a guideline, but it’s not the real world. No way you’re getting in the top ten from 22 without giving up a lot more than what the Bills gave for Diggs. They also have a 3rd year QB and can’t wait solely on a 1st round wideout to develop. It’s a good trade, and a fair one. They certainly didn’t steal Diggs, but the fact that Hopkins isn’t calling a new AFC team his home speaks volumes here.
ColoradoBills Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, boater said: Now it's all up to Josh. ...fix that deep ball! Yep, that's the big "fix" needed this season. If it happens "Katie bar the door" for the AFC East rivals!
Mr. WEO Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 49 minutes ago, Doc said: How many targets did he have in those games? 7, 5, 6, 5, 9, 9. In the 4 yard game he had 5, the 49 yard game 6, the 25 yards game 9. You can extrapolate to what the numbers "work out to for a season", but he was held to under 50 yards 7 times in 15 regular season games. 4 total catches for 19 and 57 yards in 2 playoff games.
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2020 Author Posted March 17, 2020 Not including: Croom, Klein or Matakevich
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2020 Author Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) The one thing I will say is that the Bills appear to be aware of Allen’s strengths and shortcomings and are building around that by adding wideouts who are strong at gaining separation over clunky clashers that need targets in tight windows. Edited March 17, 2020 by Reed83HOF 1 2
Boatdrinks Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, Watkins101 said: If it is the value of the picks, then there clearly would be trades, as that is how markets work. Look at recent comps for real world value, not someone’s chart. There are many charts out there and they’re simply a guideline or starting point. Markets also change , they’re not static. Go into a real estate deal and say “ the chart says it should cost X” and see where it gets you. 1
RochesterRob Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 Somebody know what the 2021 cap looks like after the events of the past 24 hours?
Watkins101 Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Look at recent comps for real world value, not someone’s chart. There are many charts out there and they’re simply a guideline or starting point. Markets also change , they’re not static. Go into a real estate deal and say “ the chart says it should cost X” and see where it gets you. Oh I realize this completely, I'm not arguing for one nonsensical chart.
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2020 Author Posted March 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Somebody know what the 2021 cap looks like after the events of the past 24 hours?
RochesterRob Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Even with considerable restructuring we would still retain around 80M to make decisions on our next round of UFA's plus look at new players.
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