Just Joshin' Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 A good receiver but it seems to me he can not carry a team. Does not come up big in the clutch. Maybe wrong with a small data set but if he was worth it teams would keep him.
H2o Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, DCOrange said: Yes. Makes me think buyer beware here. I know we took a shot on Morse, but I don't see us using assets to get a guy with such an injury history playing at the WR position.
DCOrange Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, H2o said: Makes me think buyer beware here. I know we took a shot on Morse, but I don't see us using assets to get a guy with such an injury history playing at the WR position. It's definitely a risk, but that's why it won't be a first round pick and why it becomes potentially a risk worth taking. I'd be fine taking the chance with a 2nd round pick personally but I understand if others wouldn't go for it.
Mark Vader Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 Wouldn't hate this, if the Bills are in on it. Too bad that the Rams aren't trying to trade Cooper Kupp. 1
H2o Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, DCOrange said: It's definitely a risk, but that's why it won't be a first round pick and why it becomes potentially a risk worth taking. I'd be fine taking the chance with a 2nd round pick personally but I understand if others wouldn't go for it. I wouldn't pony up a 2nd tbh. I'd go as high as a 3rd, or combine a 4th and a 6th.
Smitty75 Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) I’d like us to get him, the only problem i have it’s that he’s getting hurt really easy. So imo his worth is a 3/4th round pick! Edited March 16, 2020 by Smitty75
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 I'd be happy wit ha move like this assuming not a high price tag. I'd prefer they draft a rookie, but rookie WR can take longer to develop. This way not depending on the rookie for much production this year at least the first half. Whatever you get from the rookie is gravy as have three others plus Knox that can keep defenses honest. May even be tougher this year for rookies as time working with QB may be curtailed due to virus issues? As an aside I wonder if Josh is still working out with Palmer or has that been put on hold too?
NewEra Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 Good WR. Wouldn’t want to give up more than a 4th.
GunnerBill Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, NewEra said: Good WR. Wouldn’t want to give up more than a 4th. I am somewhere between you and @DCOrange on this one. I am thinking a #3. 1
FireChans Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, GunnerBill said: I am somewhere between you and @DCOrange on this one. I am thinking a #3. I think a 3 gets it done. Goff/McVay hasn’t been able to utilize Cooks as well as he should, and the emergence of intermediate guys like Woods and Kupp make him a luxury. Cooks has benefit to their offense as a field stretcher, but that’s a luxury that a team with a depleted talent pipeline may not be able to afford. BTW, I would 100% be in with our 3rd. If we go Tee or another WR in the first, and our group looks like Cooks, Brown, Higgins, Beasley as WR 1-4, we are easily in the top 12 in WR groups in the NFL.
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 I predicted last year we would trade for him. This year i'de rather stay away.
wppete Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 Another often injured player. But that speed is appealing. Whats his contract? Id give a 6th for him if the contract is reasonable.
Watkins101 Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 I'd give a fourth (maybe toss in a 6th?) Then take a WR in the 2nd (unless one of the top 3 fall in the first, or there isn't good value there).
BillsFan17 Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 The injury history is worthy of taking pause. Factor in the contract, I like his game, but those two things, if the price is really cheap asset wise to acquire him, but...
DCOrange Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, wppete said: Another often injured player. But that speed is appealing. Whats his contract? Id give a 6th for him if the contract is reasonable. Probably subject to change depending on what the Rams do. It's one of those contracts where there's a substantial dead cap amount for the Rams if they trade him. But as of right now, cap hits of 16.8, 16.8, 17.8, and 17.4 million left.
NewEra Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I am somewhere between you and @DCOrange on this one. I am thinking a #3. Yeah, if we trade our 3rd for him, I’d understand it but I just think we could find a better fit to spend a 3rd and big bucks on. He’s got 16-17 mill a year coming to him for a few more years. I just don’t think I want to spend all those resources (that’s a lot of money) in another small catch radius wr. then would we still be looking to add a wr in the first 2 rounds of the draft? Cooks 17 mill, brown 9.75, Beasley 7.3 plus a top draft pick in this draft? I just don’t know if we’re going to invest all of that into WR. I can’t help but look at the height and catch radius of the top 3 WRs and lack of precision of our QB on deep balls 8 minutes ago, wppete said: Another often injured player. But that speed is appealing. Whats his contract? Id give a 6th for him if the contract is reasonable. Lots. multiple years at over 16 mill per 1
The Jokeman Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, DCOrange said: Probably subject to change depending on what the Rams do. It's one of those contracts where there's a substantial dead cap amount for the Rams if they trade him. But as of right now, cap hits of 16.8, 16.8, 17.8, and 17.4 million left. Let the Jets over pay for him.
FireChans Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, NewEra said: Yeah, if we trade our 3rd for him, I’d understand it but I just think we could find a better fit to spend a 3rd and big bucks on. He’s got 16-17 mill a year coming to him for a few more years. I just don’t think I want to spend all those resources (that’s a lot of money) in another small catch radius wr. then would we still be looking to add a wr in the first 2 rounds of the draft? Cooks 17 mill, brown 9.75, Beasley 7.3 plus a top draft pick in this draft? I just don’t know if we’re going to invest all of that into WR. I can’t help but look at the height and catch radius of the top 3 WRs and lack of precision of our QB on deep balls Lots. multiple years at over 16 mill per The flip side is that Cooks gives you flexibility at 22 in terms of BPA. I would be okay with trading a third for him, going BPA at not necessarily WR in the first and second and then trading up in the third for another WR who falls. We would also likely restructure Cooks to spread out his hit a little more and give him some more guaranteed money in recompense.
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