BuffaloMatt Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 Jags know what they got and what they are getting rid of, they are high five-ing. 1
Lurker Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 18 minutes ago, MJS said: He's not that good anymore. That's the issue.
MJS Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, DCOrange said: This just isn’t true. Should we pay him $15 million for his 6 sacks? Why not pay a younger free agent who produces more? I don't want Clowney, but I'd rather have him than Campbell. I'd rather have Phillips and Lawson back. Just now, Lurker said: For two of the three years. Not last year.
Doc Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 Just now, ScottLaw said: Actually no. Right. But hey, maybe they surprise me and get Clowney or someone like Addison. He's a good player but he's on the downswing. No surprise at his age. Not worth trading for him to be a 1-year rental. 1
Lurker Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MJS said: For two of the three years. Not last year. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-jaguars-calais-campbell-run-defender-of-the-year Highest run-defense grades by all defensive linemen in 2019 (min. 250 run-defense snaps, regular season only) Player Pos. Run-defense snaps Run-defense grade Calais Campbell ED 301 90.8 Aaron Donald DI 349 90.5 Cameron Heyward DI 368 90.3 Von Miller ED 314 90.0 Carlos Dunlap ED 313 89.0 Edited March 15, 2020 by Lurker
Reed83HOF Posted March 15, 2020 Author Posted March 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Not worth trading a 5th round pick? Lol. Why? muh cap space
YoloinOhio Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 33 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: And yet cap space isn’t a concern whatsoever..... Bills need to make moves for guys like this one with FA approaching....at times I fear McBeane are too conservative. He’s better than anything this team has at pass rusher..... come on. Don’t we say this every offseason when we lose out on a FA/don’t make a trade? Shouldn’t you be more angry that your Jets didn’t trade for him? They need him more than the Bills do. That 5th they sent for Osemele last year at this time that was supposed to be so smart might have stung too much to swing again. 2 3
Doc Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Not worth trading a 5th round pick? Lol. Why? Because he's 34 and won't be getting better, while looking for $15M/year and some good guaranteed money?
Lurker Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Doc said: Because he's 34 and won't be getting better, while looking for $15M/year and some good guaranteed money? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t4nz8Elm5k&feature=emb_err_watch_on_yt Edited March 15, 2020 by Lurker
GG Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Shouldn’t you be more angry that your Jets didn’t trade for him? They need him more than the Bills do. That 5th they sent for Osemele last year at this time that was supposed to be so smart might have stung too much to swing again. Coincidentally, when I took a first glance at this thread, I read it as “Jets trade for Calais... “.
Lurker Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 So, for all the complaints about $15 million in cap space: Cut Trent Murphy and use his $9.8 million in savings to pay two-thirds of that hit. Would anyone say we woundn't be a better team in 2020 by paying that net $5 million more for Calais???...
DCOrange Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, MJS said: Should we pay him $15 million for his 6 sacks? Why not pay a younger free agent who produces more? I don't want Clowney, but I'd rather have him than Campbell. I'd rather have Phillips and Lawson back. For two of the three years. Not last year. I would love to have Clowney. As for Phillips/Lawson, it’s questionable whether or not Phillips is a starting caliber player in this league and Shaq is just adequate. Again, Campbell is arguably the best in the league at his position. Incredible run defender and generates a lot of pressure.
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, Lurker said: So, for all the complaints about $15 million in cap space: Cut Trent Murphy and use his $9.8 million in savings to pay two-thirds of that hit. Would anyone say we woundn't be a better team in 2020 by paying that net $5 million more for Calais???... Maybe they have an agreement in place for Addison already?
ColoradoBills Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 I got this from the custodian at OBD that Beane was ready to trade a 5th for Campbell but Marrone activated the No Bills Trade Clause in his contract.? 1
LABILLBACKER Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I would love to have Clowney. As for Phillips/Lawson, it’s questionable whether or not Phillips is a starting caliber player in this league and Shaq is just adequate. Again, Campbell is arguably the best in the league at his position. Incredible run defender and generates a lot of pressure. Shaq and Jordan are enigmas. They're just good enough to start and help our team but maybe not elite enough to do anything heroic signing them to a big contracts.
MJS Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, Lurker said: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-jaguars-calais-campbell-run-defender-of-the-year Highest run-defense grades by all defensive linemen in 2019 (min. 250 run-defense snaps, regular season only) Player Pos. Run-defense snaps Run-defense grade Calais Campbell ED 301 90.8 Aaron Donald DI 349 90.5 Cameron Heyward DI 368 90.3 Von Miller ED 314 90.0 Carlos Dunlap ED 313 89.0 Great. We need pass rush, not run defense. 1
Lurker Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 1 minute ago, MJS said: Great. We need pass rush, not run defense. You're just being obtuse now...
MJS Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, Lurker said: So, for all the complaints about $15 million in cap space: Cut Trent Murphy and use his $9.8 million in savings to pay two-thirds of that hit. Would anyone say we woundn't be a better team in 2020 by paying that net $5 million more for Calais???... And yet Cambell had only one more sack than Murphy. 1
Lurker Posted March 15, 2020 Posted March 15, 2020 Just now, MJS said: And yet Cambell had only one more sack than Murphy. If all you've got are stats, I can't help you...
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