DCOrange Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: So which is it 4.4 or 4.56 They'll generally post the fastest time as the "official" one so I would expect it to end up being 4.43-4.46 range.
YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 1 minute ago, KOKBILLS said:  Either way...At almost 6-4 with that wingspan no team is going to be upset with that range...IMHO at least...? It’s faster than what I expected. 1
KOKBILLS Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s faster than what I expected.  The 4.43 is faster than anyone on Earth expected...?  Except Tee btw...Who said he would run in the 4.4's...And it looks like he did...At least once...?
1997WS6 Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s faster than what I expected. Me too!
Lurker Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:  Either way...At almost 6-4 with that wingspan no team is going to be upset with that range...IMHO at least...?  What about his 31" vertical and 123" long jump?  Pretty pedestrian, even against the other tall WRs at the combine...   Rk Year Player Pos Age AV School College Height Wt 40YD Vertical▼ BenchReps Broad Jump 3Cone Shuttle Drafted (tm/rnd/yr) 1 2020 Donovan Peoples-Jones WR   Michigan College Stats 6-2 212 4.48 44.5  139    2 2020 Henry Ruggs III WR   Alabama College Stats 5-11 188 4.27 42.0  131    3 2020 Jalen Reagor WR   TCU College Stats 5-11 206 4.47 42.0 17 138 7.31 4.46  4 2020 Chase Claypool WR   Notre Dame College Stats 6-4 238 4.42 40.5 19 126    5 2020 Chris Finke WR   Notre Dame College Stats 5-9 186 4.57 40.0 7     6 2020 Brandon Aiyuk WR   Arizona State College Stats 6-0 205 4.50 40.0 11 128    7 2020 Tyrie Cleveland WR   Florida College Stats 6-2 209 4.46 39.5 13 126    8 2020 Denzel Mims WR   Baylor College Stats 6-3 207 4.38 38.5 16 131 6.66 4.43  9 2020 John Hightower WR   Boise St. College Stats 6-1 189 4.43 38.5  122 7.07 4.21  10 2020 Quintez Cephus WR   Wisconsin College Stats 6-1 202 4.73 38.5 23 124 7.20 4.33  11 2020 Joe Reed WR   Virginia College Stats 6-0 224 4.47 38.0 21 123    12 2020 Marquez Callaway WR   Tennessee College Stats 6-1 205 4.55 38.0  126    13 2020 K.J. Osborn WR   Miami College Stats 5-11 203 4.48 37.5 18 123 7.00 4.35  14 2020 Justin Jefferson WR   LSU College Stats 6-1 202 4.43 37.5  126    15 2020 Darnell Mooney WR   Tulane College Stats 5-10 176 4.38 37.0 9 124    16 2020 Jeff Thomas WR   Miami College Stats 5-9 170 4.45 36.5  125    17 2020 Freddie Swain WR   Florida College Stats 6-0 197 4.46 36.5 16 124 7.05 4.26  18 2020 Michael Pittman WR   USC College Stats 6-4 223 4.52 36.5 13 121 6.96 4.14  19 2020 Isaiah Hodgins WR   Oregon St. College Stats 6-4 210 4.61 36.5 9 124 7.01 4.12  20 2020 Quez Watkins WR   Southern Miss College Stats 6-0 185 4.35 36.5  125 7.28 4.36  21 2020 Malcolm Perry WR   Navy College Stats 5-9 186 4.63 36.0 10 122 7.12 4.31  22 2020 Dezmon Patmon WR   Washington St. College Stats 6-4 225 4.48 36.0 15 132 7.28 4.38  23 2020 Trishton Jackson WR   Syracuse College Stats 6-1 197 4.50 36.0  117    24 2020 Antonio Gandy-Golden WR   Liberty College Stats 6-4 223 4.60 36.0 22 127 7.33 4.55  25 2020 Omar Bayless WR   Arkansas State College Stats 6-1 212 4.62 36.0 11 123 7.35 4.50  26 2020 Isaiah Coulter WR   Rhode Island  6-2 198 4.45 36.0  121 7.28 4.62  27 2020 Cody White WR   Michigan St. College Stats 6-3 217 4.66 35.5  120 7.19 4.52  28 2020 Kendrick Rogers WR   Texas A&M College Stats 6-4 208 4.51 35.5 17 124 7.13 4.48  29 2020 Devin Duvernay WR   Texas College Stats 5-10 200 4.39 35.5  123 7.13 4.20  30 2020 Quartney Davis WR   Texas A&M College Stats 6-1 201 4.54 35.5      31 2020 Darrell Stewart WR   Michigan St. College Stats 6-0 212  35.0 15 117    32 2020 Jerry Jeudy WR   Alabama College Stats 6-1 193 4.45 35.0  120  4.53  33 2020 Antonio Gibson WR   Memphis College Stats 6-0 228 4.39 35.0 16 118    34 2020 Gabriel Davis WR   UCF College Stats 6-2 216 4.54 35.0 14 124 7.08 4.59  35 2020 Ben Victor WR   Ohio St. College Stats 6-4 198 4.60 35.0 9 128 7.10   36 2020 James Proche WR   SMU College Stats 5-11 201  34.5 20  7.27 4.40  37 2020 CeeDee Lamb WR   Oklahoma College Stats 6-2 198 4.50 34.5 11 124    38 2020 Stephen Guidry WR   Mississippi St. College Stats 6-3 201 4.47 34.0  125 7.31 4.46  39 2020 Aaron Fuller WR   Washington College Stats 5-11 188 4.59 34.0  118 7.14   40 2020 Tony Brown WR   Colorado College Stats 6-1 198 4.65 33.5 14 119 7.21 4.27  41 2020 Juwan Johnson WR   Oregon College Stats 6-4 230 4.58 33.0 14 124 6.94 4.37  42 2020 K.J. Hill WR   Ohio St. College Stats 6-0 196 4.60 32.5 17 114    43 2020 Kalija Lipscomb WR   Vanderbilt College Stats 6-0 207 4.57 32.0 16 127    44 2020 Austin Mack WR   Ohio St. College Stats 6-1 208 4.59 31.5  117  4.42  45 2020 Jauan Jennings WR   Tennessee College Stats 6-3 215 4.72 29.0  119    46 2020 Aaron Parker WR   Rhode Island  6-2 209 4.57 26.5 12 112 6.94 4.23  47 2020 Laviska Shenault Jr. WR   Colorado College Stats 6-1 227 4.58  17     48 2020 Tyler Johnson WR   Minnesota College Stats 6-1 206        49 2020 Collin Johnson WR   Texas College Stats 6-6 222   17     50 2020 Van Jefferson WR   Florida College Stats 6-1 200        51 2020 Tee Higgins WR   Clemson College Stats 6-4 216        52 2020 KJ Hamler WR   Penn St. College Stats 5-9 178   15     53 2020 Bryan Edwards WR   South Carolina College Stats 6-3 212        54 2020 Lawrence Cager WR   Georgia College Stats 6-5 220        55 2020 Lynn Bowden WR   Kentucky College Stats 5-11 204   13       Rk Year Player Pos Age AV School College Height Wt 40YD Vertical BenchReps Broad Jump▼ 3Cone Shuttle Drafted (tm/rnd/yr) 1 2020 Donovan Peoples-Jones WR   Michigan College Stats 6-2 212 4.48 44.5  139    2 2020 Jalen Reagor WR   TCU College Stats 5-11 206 4.47 42.0 17 138 7.31 4.46  3 2020 Dezmon Patmon WR   Washington St. College Stats 6-4 225 4.48 36.0 15 132 7.28 4.38  4 2020 Henry Ruggs III WR   Alabama College Stats 5-11 188 4.27 42.0  131    5 2020 Denzel Mims WR   Baylor College Stats 6-3 207 4.38 38.5 16 131 6.66 4.43  6 2020 Brandon Aiyuk WR   Arizona State College Stats 6-0 205 4.50 40.0 11 128    7 2020 Ben Victor WR   Ohio St. College Stats 6-4 198 4.60 35.0 9 128 7.10   8 2020 Antonio Gandy-Golden WR   Liberty College Stats 6-4 223 4.60 36.0 22 127 7.33 4.55  9 2020 Kalija Lipscomb WR   Vanderbilt College Stats 6-0 207 4.57 32.0 16 127    10 2020 Chase Claypool WR   Notre Dame College Stats 6-4 238 4.42 40.5 19 126    11 2020 Tyrie Cleveland WR   Florida College Stats 6-2 209 4.46 39.5 13 126    12 2020 Marquez Callaway WR   Tennessee College Stats 6-1 205 4.55 38.0  126    13 2020 Justin Jefferson WR   LSU College Stats 6-1 202 4.43 37.5  126    14 2020 Jeff Thomas WR   Miami College Stats 5-9 170 4.45 36.5  125    15 2020 Quez Watkins WR   Southern Miss College Stats 6-0 185 4.35 36.5  125 7.28 4.36  16 2020 Stephen Guidry WR   Mississippi St. College Stats 6-3 201 4.47 34.0  125 7.31 4.46  17 2020 Quintez Cephus WR   Wisconsin College Stats 6-1 202 4.73 38.5 23 124 7.20 4.33  18 2020 Darnell Mooney WR   Tulane College Stats 5-10 176 4.38 37.0 9 124    19 2020 Freddie Swain WR   Florida College Stats 6-0 197 4.46 36.5 16 124 7.05 4.26  20 2020 Isaiah Hodgins WR   Oregon St. College Stats 6-4 210 4.61 36.5 9 124 7.01 4.12  21 2020 Kendrick Rogers WR   Texas A&M College Stats 6-4 208 4.51 35.5 17 124 7.13 4.48  22 2020 Gabriel Davis WR   UCF College Stats 6-2 216 4.54 35.0 14 124 7.08 4.59  23 2020 CeeDee Lamb WR   Oklahoma College Stats 6-2 198 4.50 34.5 11 124    24 2020 Juwan Johnson WR   Oregon College Stats 6-4 230 4.58 33.0 14 124 6.94 4.37  25 2020 Joe Reed WR   Virginia College Stats 6-0 224 4.47 38.0 21 123    26 2020 K.J. Osborn WR   Miami College Stats 5-11 203 4.48 37.5 18 123 7.00 4.35  27 2020 Omar Bayless WR   Arkansas State College Stats 6-1 212 4.62 36.0 11 123 7.35 4.50  28 2020 Devin Duvernay WR   Texas College Stats 5-10 200 4.39 35.5  123 7.13 4.20  29 2020 John Hightower WR   Boise St. College Stats 6-1 189 4.43 38.5  122 7.07 4.21  30 2020 Malcolm Perry WR   Navy College Stats 5-9 186 4.63 36.0 10 122 7.12 4.31  31 2020 Michael Pittman WR   USC College Stats 6-4 223 4.52 36.5 13 121 6.96 4.14  32 2020 Isaiah Coulter WR   Rhode Island  6-2 198 4.45 36.0  121 7.28 4.62  33 2020 Cody White WR   Michigan St. College Stats 6-3 217 4.66 35.5  120 7.19 4.52  34 2020 Jerry Jeudy WR   Alabama College Stats 6-1 193 4.45 35.0  120  4.53  35 2020 Tony Brown WR   Colorado College Stats 6-1 198 4.65 33.5 14 119 7.21 4.27  36 2020 Jauan Jennings WR   Tennessee College Stats 6-3 215 4.72 29.0  119    37 2020 Antonio Gibson WR   Memphis College Stats 6-0 228 4.39 35.0 16 118    38 2020 Aaron Fuller WR   Washington College Stats 5-11 188 4.59 34.0  118 7.14   39 2020 Trishton Jackson WR   Syracuse College Stats 6-1 197 4.50 36.0  117    40 2020 Darrell Stewart WR   Michigan St. College Stats 6-0 212  35.0 15 117    41 2020 Austin Mack WR   Ohio St. College Stats 6-1 208 4.59 31.5  117  4.42  42 2020 K.J. Hill WR   Ohio St. College Stats 6-0 196 4.60 32.5 17 114    43 2020 Aaron Parker WR   Rhode Island  6-2 209 4.57 26.5 12 112 6.94 4.23  44 2020 Chris Finke WR   Notre Dame College Stats 5-9 186 4.57 40.0 7     45 2020 Quartney Davis WR   Texas A&M College Stats 6-1 201 4.54 35.5      46 2020 James Proche WR   SMU College Stats 5-11 201  34.5 20  7.27 4.40  47 2020 Laviska Shenault Jr. WR   Colorado College Stats 6-1 227 4.58  17     48 2020 Tyler Johnson WR   Minnesota College Stats 6-1 206        49 2020 Collin Johnson WR   Texas College Stats 6-6 222   17     50 2020 Van Jefferson WR   Florida College Stats 6-1 200        51 2020 Tee Higgins WR   Clemson College Stats 6-4 216        52 2020 KJ Hamler WR   Penn St. College Stats 5-9 178   15     53 2020 Bryan Edwards WR   South Carolina College Stats 6-3 212        54 2020 Lawrence Cager WR   Georgia College Stats 6-5 220        55 2020 Lynn Bowden WR   Kentucky College Stats 5-11 204   13       1
Kirby Jackson Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 30 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Cervenka was a wrestler ?? (Coach McDermott has entered the chat) Â 17
njbuff Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 Why are people on the edge of their seats over a 40 time? Â Tee Higgins GD tape is what you should be going by. Â The obvious question is.............. Is Higgins in play at 22 or is he a 2nd round pick? We have no idea. 1
KOKBILLS Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 Just now, Lurker said:  What about his 31" vertical and 123" long jump?  Pretty pedestrian, even against the other tall WRs at the combine...   Rk Year Player Pos Age AV School College Height Wt 40YD Vertical▼ BenchReps Broad Jump 3Cone Shuttle Drafted (tm/rnd/yr) 1 2020 Donovan Peoples-Jones WR   Michigan College Stats 6-2 212 4.48 44.5  139    2 2020 Henry Ruggs III WR   Alabama College Stats 5-11 188 4.27 42.0  131    3 2020 Jalen Reagor WR   TCU College Stats 5-11 206 4.47 42.0 17 138 7.31 4.46  4 2020 Chase Claypool WR   Notre Dame College Stats 6-4 238 4.42 40.5 19 126    5 2020 Chris Finke WR   Notre Dame College Stats 5-9 186 4.57 40.0 7     6 2020 Brandon Aiyuk WR   Arizona State College Stats 6-0 205 4.50 40.0 11 128    7 2020 Tyrie Cleveland WR   Florida College Stats 6-2 209 4.46 39.5 13 126    8 2020 Denzel Mims WR   Baylor College Stats 6-3 207 4.38 38.5 16 131 6.66 4.43  9 2020 John Hightower WR   Boise St. College Stats 6-1 189 4.43 38.5  122 7.07 4.21  10 2020 Quintez Cephus WR   Wisconsin College Stats 6-1 202 4.73 38.5 23 124 7.20 4.33  11 2020 Joe Reed WR   Virginia College Stats 6-0 224 4.47 38.0 21 123    12 2020 Marquez Callaway WR   Tennessee College Stats 6-1 205 4.55 38.0  126    13 2020 K.J. Osborn WR   Miami College Stats 5-11 203 4.48 37.5 18 123 7.00 4.35  14 2020 Justin Jefferson WR   LSU College Stats 6-1 202 4.43 37.5  126    15 2020 Darnell Mooney WR   Tulane College Stats 5-10 176 4.38 37.0 9 124    16 2020 Jeff Thomas WR   Miami College Stats 5-9 170 4.45 36.5  125    17 2020 Freddie Swain WR   Florida College Stats 6-0 197 4.46 36.5 16 124 7.05 4.26  18 2020 Michael Pittman WR   USC College Stats 6-4 223 4.52 36.5 13 121 6.96 4.14  19 2020 Isaiah Hodgins WR   Oregon St. College Stats 6-4 210 4.61 36.5 9 124 7.01 4.12  20 2020 Quez Watkins WR   Southern Miss College Stats 6-0 185 4.35 36.5  125 7.28 4.36  21 2020 Malcolm Perry WR   Navy College Stats 5-9 186 4.63 36.0 10 122 7.12 4.31  22 2020 Dezmon Patmon WR   Washington St. College Stats 6-4 225 4.48 36.0 15 132 7.28 4.38  23 2020 Trishton Jackson WR   Syracuse College Stats 6-1 197 4.50 36.0  117    24 2020 Antonio Gandy-Golden WR   Liberty College Stats 6-4 223 4.60 36.0 22 127 7.33 4.55  25 2020 Omar Bayless WR   Arkansas State College Stats 6-1 212 4.62 36.0 11 123 7.35 4.50  26 2020 Isaiah Coulter WR   Rhode Island  6-2 198 4.45 36.0  121 7.28 4.62  27 2020 Cody White WR   Michigan St. College Stats 6-3 217 4.66 35.5  120 7.19 4.52  28 2020 Kendrick Rogers WR   Texas A&M College Stats 6-4 208 4.51 35.5 17 124 7.13 4.48  29 2020 Devin Duvernay WR   Texas College Stats 5-10 200 4.39 35.5  123 7.13 4.20  30 2020 Quartney Davis WR   Texas A&M College Stats 6-1 201 4.54 35.5      31 2020 Darrell Stewart WR   Michigan St. College Stats 6-0 212  35.0 15 117    32 2020 Jerry Jeudy WR   Alabama College Stats 6-1 193 4.45 35.0  120  4.53  33 2020 Antonio Gibson WR   Memphis College Stats 6-0 228 4.39 35.0 16 118    34 2020 Gabriel Davis WR   UCF College Stats 6-2 216 4.54 35.0 14 124 7.08 4.59  35 2020 Ben Victor WR   Ohio St. College Stats 6-4 198 4.60 35.0 9 128 7.10   36 2020 James Proche WR   SMU College Stats 5-11 201  34.5 20  7.27 4.40  37 2020 CeeDee Lamb WR   Oklahoma College Stats 6-2 198 4.50 34.5 11 124    38 2020 Stephen Guidry WR   Mississippi St. College Stats 6-3 201 4.47 34.0  125 7.31 4.46  39 2020 Aaron Fuller WR   Washington College Stats 5-11 188 4.59 34.0  118 7.14   40 2020 Tony Brown WR   Colorado College Stats 6-1 198 4.65 33.5 14 119 7.21 4.27  41 2020 Juwan Johnson WR   Oregon College Stats 6-4 230 4.58 33.0 14 124 6.94 4.37  42 2020 K.J. Hill WR   Ohio St. College Stats 6-0 196 4.60 32.5 17 114    43 2020 Kalija Lipscomb WR   Vanderbilt College Stats 6-0 207 4.57 32.0 16 127    44 2020 Austin Mack WR   Ohio St. College Stats 6-1 208 4.59 31.5  117  4.42  45 2020 Jauan Jennings WR   Tennessee College Stats 6-3 215 4.72 29.0  119    46 2020 Aaron Parker WR   Rhode Island  6-2 209 4.57 26.5 12 112 6.94 4.23  47 2020 Laviska Shenault Jr. WR   Colorado College Stats 6-1 227 4.58  17     48 2020 Tyler Johnson WR   Minnesota College Stats 6-1 206        49 2020 Collin Johnson WR   Texas College Stats 6-6 222   17     50 2020 Van Jefferson WR   Florida College Stats 6-1 200        51 2020 Tee Higgins WR   Clemson College Stats 6-4 216        52 2020 KJ Hamler WR   Penn St. College Stats 5-9 178   15     53 2020 Bryan Edwards WR   South Carolina College Stats 6-3 212        54 2020 Lawrence Cager WR   Georgia College Stats 6-5 220        55 2020 Lynn Bowden WR   Kentucky College Stats 5-11 204   13       Rk Year Player Pos Age AV School College Height Wt 40YD Vertical BenchReps Broad Jump▼ 3Cone Shuttle Drafted (tm/rnd/yr) 1 2020 Donovan Peoples-Jones WR   Michigan College Stats 6-2 212 4.48 44.5  139    2 2020 Jalen Reagor WR   TCU College Stats 5-11 206 4.47 42.0 17 138 7.31 4.46  3 2020 Dezmon Patmon WR   Washington St. College Stats 6-4 225 4.48 36.0 15 132 7.28 4.38  4 2020 Henry Ruggs III WR   Alabama College Stats 5-11 188 4.27 42.0  131    5 2020 Denzel Mims WR   Baylor College Stats 6-3 207 4.38 38.5 16 131 6.66 4.43  6 2020 Brandon Aiyuk WR   Arizona State College Stats 6-0 205 4.50 40.0 11 128    7 2020 Ben Victor WR   Ohio St. College Stats 6-4 198 4.60 35.0 9 128 7.10   8 2020 Antonio Gandy-Golden WR   Liberty College Stats 6-4 223 4.60 36.0 22 127 7.33 4.55  9 2020 Kalija Lipscomb WR   Vanderbilt College Stats 6-0 207 4.57 32.0 16 127    10 2020 Chase Claypool WR   Notre Dame College Stats 6-4 238 4.42 40.5 19 126    11 2020 Tyrie Cleveland WR   Florida College Stats 6-2 209 4.46 39.5 13 126    12 2020 Marquez Callaway WR   Tennessee College Stats 6-1 205 4.55 38.0  126    13 2020 Justin Jefferson WR   LSU College Stats 6-1 202 4.43 37.5  126    14 2020 Jeff Thomas WR   Miami College Stats 5-9 170 4.45 36.5  125    15 2020 Quez Watkins WR   Southern Miss College Stats 6-0 185 4.35 36.5  125 7.28 4.36  16 2020 Stephen Guidry WR   Mississippi St. College Stats 6-3 201 4.47 34.0  125 7.31 4.46  17 2020 Quintez Cephus WR   Wisconsin College Stats 6-1 202 4.73 38.5 23 124 7.20 4.33  18 2020 Darnell Mooney WR   Tulane College Stats 5-10 176 4.38 37.0 9 124    19 2020 Freddie Swain WR   Florida College Stats 6-0 197 4.46 36.5 16 124 7.05 4.26  20 2020 Isaiah Hodgins WR   Oregon St. College Stats 6-4 210 4.61 36.5 9 124 7.01 4.12  21 2020 Kendrick Rogers WR   Texas A&M College Stats 6-4 208 4.51 35.5 17 124 7.13 4.48  22 2020 Gabriel Davis WR   UCF College Stats 6-2 216 4.54 35.0 14 124 7.08 4.59  23 2020 CeeDee Lamb WR   Oklahoma College Stats 6-2 198 4.50 34.5 11 124    24 2020 Juwan Johnson WR   Oregon College Stats 6-4 230 4.58 33.0 14 124 6.94 4.37  25 2020 Joe Reed WR   Virginia College Stats 6-0 224 4.47 38.0 21 123    26 2020 K.J. Osborn WR   Miami College Stats 5-11 203 4.48 37.5 18 123 7.00 4.35  27 2020 Omar Bayless WR   Arkansas State College Stats 6-1 212 4.62 36.0 11 123 7.35 4.50  28 2020 Devin Duvernay WR   Texas College Stats 5-10 200 4.39 35.5  123 7.13 4.20  29 2020 John Hightower WR   Boise St. College Stats 6-1 189 4.43 38.5  122 7.07 4.21  30 2020 Malcolm Perry WR   Navy College Stats 5-9 186 4.63 36.0 10 122 7.12 4.31  31 2020 Michael Pittman WR   USC College Stats 6-4 223 4.52 36.5 13 121 6.96 4.14  32 2020 Isaiah Coulter WR   Rhode Island  6-2 198 4.45 36.0  121 7.28 4.62  33 2020 Cody White WR   Michigan St. College Stats 6-3 217 4.66 35.5  120 7.19 4.52  34 2020 Jerry Jeudy WR   Alabama College Stats 6-1 193 4.45 35.0  120  4.53  35 2020 Tony Brown WR   Colorado College Stats 6-1 198 4.65 33.5 14 119 7.21 4.27  36 2020 Jauan Jennings WR   Tennessee College Stats 6-3 215 4.72 29.0  119    37 2020 Antonio Gibson WR   Memphis College Stats 6-0 228 4.39 35.0 16 118    38 2020 Aaron Fuller WR   Washington College Stats 5-11 188 4.59 34.0  118 7.14   39 2020 Trishton Jackson WR   Syracuse College Stats 6-1 197 4.50 36.0  117    40 2020 Darrell Stewart WR   Michigan St. College Stats 6-0 212  35.0 15 117    41 2020 Austin Mack WR   Ohio St. College Stats 6-1 208 4.59 31.5  117  4.42  42 2020 K.J. Hill WR   Ohio St. College Stats 6-0 196 4.60 32.5 17 114    43 2020 Aaron Parker WR   Rhode Island  6-2 209 4.57 26.5 12 112 6.94 4.23  44 2020 Chris Finke WR   Notre Dame College Stats 5-9 186 4.57 40.0 7     45 2020 Quartney Davis WR   Texas A&M College Stats 6-1 201 4.54 35.5      46 2020 James Proche WR   SMU College Stats 5-11 201  34.5 20  7.27 4.40  47 2020 Laviska Shenault Jr. WR   Colorado College Stats 6-1 227 4.58  17     48 2020 Tyler Johnson WR   Minnesota College Stats 6-1 206        49 2020 Collin Johnson WR   Texas College Stats 6-6 222   17     50 2020 Van Jefferson WR   Florida College Stats 6-1 200        51 2020 Tee Higgins WR   Clemson College Stats 6-4 216        52 2020 KJ Hamler WR   Penn St. College Stats 5-9 178   15     53 2020 Bryan Edwards WR   South Carolina College Stats 6-3 212        54 2020 Lawrence Cager WR   Georgia College Stats 6-5 220        55 2020 Lynn Bowden WR   Kentucky College Stats 5-11 204   13        It is...But the time was WAY more important...The film shows he can win in contested situations...He can high point...The time was the big question mark IMHO...
Lurker Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 Just now, KOKBILLS said:  It is...But the time was WAY more important...The film shows he can win in contested situations...He can high point...The time was the big question mark IMHO...  What about explosiveness and separation skills?  If Higgins is one of those "build up, long strider" speed types (which is what I think he is) rather than athletic/twitchy, we're talking about a jump ball guy, not a #1 WR.  We probably could get that skill set somewhere in rounds 2-3, IMO... 1
KOKBILLS Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lurker said:  What about explosiveness and separation skills?  If Higgins is one of those "build up, long strider" speed types (which is what I think he is) rather than athletic/twitchy, we're talking about a jump ball guy, not a #1 WR.  We probably could get that skill set somewhere in rounds 2-3, IMO...  Maybe so...I know folks like Mims more for example, and he's got pretty good height and length as well as more explosion...No doubt you will not get a consensus on Drafting Tee...Especially at #22...  However I do get the feeling that is exactly what the Bills are going to do...I watched him a ton last year...Seemed open a lot to me and Lawrence threw it to him regardless...I have no issues with Tee assuming they don't take him ahead of the top 3 WR's......But I fully understand those who do, and why they do...We'll just have to see...?
thenorthremembers Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, njbuff said: Why are people on the edge of their seats over a 40 time?  Tee Higgins GD tape is what you should be going by.  The obvious question is.............. Is Higgins in play at 22 or is he a 2nd round pick? We have no idea. Based on tape he should be the 4th wideout off the board.  His tape is better than Shenault's and Jefferson's.  A lot of people were worried because at one point he ran a 4.75 40 and at times he failed to separate on the field. IMO the lack of separation is just as much an issue for Jefferson, and Jefferson made most of his money in the slot. Higgins is a big X wideout who wins on 50/50 passes. His timed speed does answer some questions, and I think he should be in play at 22.  4
H2o Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Cervenka was a wrestler ?? McDermott Face Timing Brandon Beane right now 3
RyanC883 Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 I just can't see taking Higgins at 22. He appears injury prone, and there are other WR's in the 2nd. I'd like OT/Edge then WR. In Rd. 1 I'd like Mims or Jefferson over Higgins, in Rd. 2 I'd go Claypool, Mims (if somehow there), Reagor.   I'd be fine trading up for Ruggs.  31 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:  Maybe so...I know folks like Mims more for example, and he's got pretty good height and length as well as more explosion...No doubt you will not get a consensus on Drafting Tee...Especially at #22...  However I do get the feeling that is exactly what the Bills are going to do...I watched him a ton last year...Seemed open a lot to me and Lawrence threw it to him regardless...I have no issues with Tee assuming they don't take him ahead of the top 3 WR's......But I fully understand those who do, and why they do...We'll just have to see...?  great points. I'm not a Higgins at 22 guy, was at one point, but if the Bills take him there I have total confidence in the pick. Unlike other FO's who seemed to not do their homework.  1
BarleyNY Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, KOKBILLS said:  The 4.43 is faster than anyone on Earth expected...?  Except Tee btw...Who said he would run in the 4.4's...And it looks like he did...At least once...? Clemson has a notoriously fast track.  I’d have been surprised if he had run at the Combine and gotten those times.  It’s still better than what I would’ve expected for him even on Clemson’s track.  If anything it’s going to help his draft stock. Edited March 12, 2020 by BarleyNY 1
YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: I just can't see taking Higgins at 22. He appears injury prone, and there are other WR's in the 2nd. I'd like OT/Edge then WR. In Rd. 1 I'd like Mims or Jefferson over Higgins, in Rd. 2 I'd go Claypool, Mims (if somehow there), Reagor.   I'd be fine trading up for Ruggs.  Injury prone? Is that true? Seems like he didn’t miss many if any games in college. He got pulled from the fiesta bowl for concussion protocol but came back. What else ... I admittedly did no researchÂ
H2o Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Injury prone? Is that true? Seems like he didn’t miss many if any games in college. He got pulled from the fiesta bowl for concussion protocol but came back. What else ... I admittedly did no research Yolo, I didn't see much of the Ohio St./Clemson game. Did Okudah stay with Higgins that game? If so how did he look? I see the box score where he only had 4 catches for 33 yards, but I also know that Ohio St. had Lawrence under a lot of pressure which forced him to run with the ball. 1
Big Turk Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: So which is it 4.4 or 4.56 Â 40 times can be influenced significantly either direction based on how good of a start you get. 1
YoloinOhio Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, H2o said: Yolo, I didn't see much of the Ohio St./Clemson game. Did Okudah stay with Higgins that game? If so how did he look? I see the box score where he only had 4 catches for 33 yards, but I also know that Ohio St. had Lawrence under a lot of pressure which forced him to run with the ball. Yes but Higgins went out of the game very early. He came back in the 2nd half but Ohio state lost Shaun Wade to targeting by then so they had to move their DBs around and I would have to go back to see if okudah stuck with him or not. Higgins made some clutch catches but Lawrence really didn’t do anything through the air until the end and a lot of his throws went to the RB  who had immense YAC. Hard game to decipher when it comes to Higgins Edited March 12, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 1
Reed83HOF Posted March 12, 2020 Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) I will be bummed if we pick Higgins, just have no love for this guy. Gets dinged up, not good a releasing, can suffer from the dropsies, not great at seperation, not great at YAC = not what I want, especially at 22 Edited March 12, 2020 by Reed83HOF 2
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