CountDorkula Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: It is entertaining to read these sort of takes, pretending the money is theirs is super funny. This the same MO that Beane has used it the past, just look at last off season for the template, it’s all there. Go Bills!!! SO im never allowed to say wow that is a bad contract ever because its not my money? That involves any team from any sport, correct? If the Bills go out and sign Clowney to a 5 year 115 mil deal this year, im not allowed to comment on it because it is not my money?
26TrapDraw Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 2 hours ago, ExWNYer said: Fair enough. Just don't get your hopes up for Norman or you will be sorely disappointed. I'm not questioning McDermott's defensive prowess but he's not a miracle worker. That's an expensive signing just to get a vet in the DB room. Color me extremely skeptical on this one. My Prediction is he excels in his role is this zone scheme. He's still elite athletically and McDermott won't deal with any clown garbage from him. 1
thurst44 Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 53 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Minus the fact that Norman is a liability on the field. to me that is a huge risk. If he's a liability on the field, he probably won't be on the field. 3
YoloinOhio Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: See this would make sense if his former HC in Ron Rivera wasn't the HC in Washington now. I actually think they primarily wanted his huge contract off the books. Del Rio does not run the same coverage defense as McD - in Denver he played man and cover one. 3 2
CountDorkula Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: So, what you’re saying is that you trust Rivera, whose team floundered after McD left, more than the coach that made Norman into the player who got stupidly overpaid in Washington and was released in order to save Rivera’s team a sizeable amount of money? Never said that at all. McDs system comes from the Ron Rivera system, no? The Panthers floundered because Cam newton fell apart, and its insanely hard to keep good defenses together. but thats for a different topic. I don't like josh Norman. Id rather not have him.
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 2 hours ago, ExWNYer said: Did any of you who like this watch him last year? He was awful. But he played very well while under McDermott’s scheme in Carolina. For the price we signed him at it might be a steal for us
YoloinOhio Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 1 minute ago, CountDorkula said: Never said that at all. McDs system comes from the Ron Rivera system, no? The Panthers floundered because Cam newton fell apart, and its insanely hard to keep good defenses together. but thats for a different topic. I don't like josh Norman. Id rather not have him. The Redskins DC is Jack Del Rio. His coverage schemes are a poor fit for Josh Norman.
Seoulofstone Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, BeefCurtns said: My Prediction is he excels in his role is this zone scheme. He's still elite athletically and McDermott won't deal with any clown garbage from him. He's in great shape, just last year he ran with the bulls in Pamplona. However he is slow. He was ALWAYS slow, his strength shows when he is close to the line of scrimmage.
CountDorkula Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I actually think they primarily wanted his huge contract off the books. Del Rio does not run the same coverage defense as McD - in Denver he played man and cover one. See now this is good discussion, not just calling me "an idiot" which is 100% true BTW. It no doubt has to do about the contract, but if he was living up to it, he would not have been cut. no one can say he was good in Washington, He was allowing some of the highest completion % in teh league the last few years. Whatever the reason, thats not good. 1
thurst44 Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 28 minutes ago, youngjebrey said: In beane we trust. If Brandon Beane signed a peloton bike for 3 years/ 80 mil to play corner I’d trust him. The Peloton bike is familiar with McDermott's system! 1
YoloinOhio Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, CountDorkula said: See now this is good discussion, not just calling me "an idiot" which is 100% true BTW. It no doubt has to do about the contract, but if he was living up to it, he would not have been cut. no one can say he was good in Washington, He was allowing some of the highest completion % in teh league the last few years. Whatever the reason, thats not good. He was cut because of the contract and because he’s a poor fit for their defensive scheme. No reason to keep him. He didn’t live up to his deal with the previous regime either of course, also a poor fit for that scheme. Edited March 9, 2020 by YoloinOhio
CountDorkula Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: He was cut because of the contract and because he’s a poor fit for their defensive scheme. No reason to keep him. He didn’t live up to his deal with the previous regime either of course, also a poor fit for that scheme. I will say this, both Star Loutulelei(sp?) and Kelvin Benjamin were brought in for the very same reasons, and they haven't/did not work out. I understand Beane getting benefit, but some of the decisions have not been the greatest, especially when it comes to ex-panthers. 1
BillsMafi$ Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 I hope none of that is guaranteed and they keep the receipt.
DJB Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 36 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: because Norman has been bad for the better part of 3 years. True I'll give you that. But he was also playing man to man often as the #1 cover guy. We've seen some guys are great at one system and stink at another. He now goes back to the exact system he flourished in and hes being asked to be the #2 guy at most.
Lurker Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Smitty75 said: There is something that I don’t get with this contract, I saw 6M for 1 year but it can go to 8M, I just don’t understand why ? ? Number of snaps taken most likey. Other inectives for INTs, etc...
Sig1Hunter Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Never said that at all. McDs system comes from the Ron Rivera system, no? No, McDs system comes from Jim Johnson’s system. Rivera had nothing to do with McDs system. 2
Don Otreply Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: See this would make sense if his former HC in Ron Rivera wasn't the HC in Washington now. Didn’t Ron himself just get cut a short while ago for not doing well for the last couple of years? and then take a job with the crappiest organization in the league? I wouldn’t be at all surprised if JN asked to be cut just to get out of that sh-t show, knowing he would sign with another team. Lots of player sucked while playing for the skins. ? 1
blacklabel Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 It's fine. I doubt they're looking at him to be much more than a rotational piece. And who says he's guaranteed a roster spot? He'll have to earn it.
Lurker Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) I haven't seen any mention of guaranteed money. Since he won't get a game check until September, if he flames out at SJF, the team is out just the opportunity cost of having him around. In the meantime, he can mentor the younger members of the team, just like Mike Tolbert... Edited March 9, 2020 by Lurker
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