vincec Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 11 hours ago, Putin said: I like the signing , we needed an upgrade at the CB-2 position and I believe we got that , Wallace was getting burn a lot last year , I like K Johnson and I hope we bring him back ( at a reasonable price ) him and Wallace as depth at 3 & 4 that’s not bad IMO !! GO Bills !!! I wouldn't bet on Norman beating out Wallace or Johnson.
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, nucci said: Has anyone asked if he's a process guy? He just has to be for one year. And if the rumors are accurate about the contract not being guaranteed till the first game, it gives the Bills time to find out.
vincec Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 5 hours ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said: I'm also assuming he's going to be pretty darn motivated in this "contract year". He will hopefully bring whatever he's got left to try and get one more decent contract after 2020. It may very well be a "career year." If he poops his pants with the Bills he is going to have a hard time finding another team to take a chance on him.
Mat68 Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 This is a perfect no risk signing. No different than if Olsen signed here. Norman is a perfect fit for the defense. If he doesnt have it anymore? It wont effect much.
Bronxbomber21 Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 I really like this move Norman will have a lot of Bill's fans eating crow come next season. Hes back in a system he was great in and he doesn't have to be the number one. 3 minutes ago, Mat68 said: This is a perfect no risk signing. No different than if Olsen signed here. Norman is a perfect fit for the defense. If he doesnt have it anymore? It wont effect much. I think this is a great first signing to free agency.
BuffAlone Posted March 9, 2020 Posted March 9, 2020 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: You already forgot these same guys signed Vontae Davis? Dude was awful and then retired at halftime. He made history.? I think its safe to say that what "these guys" wanted was veterans teaching kids. Davis was a miss. But, Gore wasn't. Neither has Star been.Nor Poyer/Hyde. And if I may, Beasley/Brown has helped...and likely will moving forward. Imagine if we had Tolbert teaching Karlos back then. Its not a bad concept at all. why you are so butt hurt about the front office now, compared to any other time, is beyond me. And most. A TRUE Bills fan sees glasses half full. this is just my opinion, not Law 2
John from Riverside Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: You already forgot these same guys signed Vontae Davis? Dude was awful and then retired at halftime. He made history.? And They also signed Kevin Johnson who frankly was pretty good for the money? WTF ARE YOU ALWAYS NITPICKING EVERY BAD MOVE the bills make......every team has them and the bills have had more good then bad. JESUS 1
Turk71 Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said: I'm also assuming he's going to be pretty darn motivated in this "contract year". He will hopefully bring whatever he's got left to try and get one more decent contract after 2020. He will be turning 34 in the season after next and will have made over 70 million dollars. I'm sure he will be really motivated to land another big contract(sarcasm font). According to some reports he is overweight, slow and sluggish. Let's see if he can pass the physical, make it through training camp and still play football at a decent level before thinking he will be shooting for another contract at 34. Enough with the McBeane know him best because they coached him. They also coached Benjamin, Vontae, etc. The last time they had Norman was five seasons ago when he was 27/28. Like I said, hopefully not much in guarantees in case he's toast. Hopefully the change of scenery and the reunion with McBeane recharges him and it works out great. Edited March 10, 2020 by Turk71
Seoulofstone Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Formerly Allan in MD said: A lot of NFL players talk smack and get in people's faces but don't get benched and made inactive because of that. Did he get benched and made inactive because of his on-field attitude then? Because I don't think that's true. This is exactly what I'm trying to figure out. Have people put him in the Odell Beckham bucket as a troublemaker and if so on what basis?
Dopey Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 2 hours ago, ScottLaw said: You already forgot these same guys signed Vontae Davis? Dude was awful and then retired at halftime. He made history.? I want to see your list of the staff that gets it right. %100 of the time? That list would be a very short list. Like, zero names. 3
Turk71 Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Dopey said: I want to see your list of the staff that gets it right. %100 of the time? That list would be a very short list. Like, zero names. Which is exactly why it is not unreasonable to question them on this signing. Josh Norman was one of the worst cbs in the entire league last year and will turn 33 this season. Expecting everyone to just get behind this move without question is just blind loyalty, especially when you admit that these guys make mistakes. I myself am skeptical but will be cautiously optimistic as it unfolds. Edited March 10, 2020 by Turk71 1
3rdand12 Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, Turk71 said: Which is exactly why it is not unreasonable to question them on this signing. Josh Norman was one of the worst cbs in the entire league last year and will turn 33 this season. Expecting everyone to just get behind this move without question is just blind loyalty, especially when you admit that these guys make mistakes. I myself am skeptical but will be cautiously optimistic as it unfolds. This is a fair take. I do not care for his mouth He was a Pro bowler for real Played under McD for 4 years Succked for Washington ( man coverage is an excuse at best) why did they bring him on then ? contract is #Beanesmart as long as he i behind Wallace and perhaps KJ and play situational until he earns it. not thrilled with Bills 1st move in FA but thats okay 1
KD in CA Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 9 hours ago, Bobby Hooks said: I don’t get how anyone has a problem with this. He did well in McDermotts system and they’ve done really well evaluating and bringing in vets for depth in our schemes. Also it’s 6 million dollars in a position we needed depth in. I guess some people just aren’t comfortable unless they’re complaining about something. Speaking for myself, I'm only comfortable signing guys who are consistently healthy and near their career best form (preferably pro-bowl caliber), and who are willing to sign short-term, team friendly deals. 1 2
3rdand12 Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, KD in CA said: Speaking for myself, I'm only comfortable signing guys who are consistently healthy and near their career best form (preferably pro-bowl caliber), and who are willing to sign short-term, team friendly deals. well he has been healthy : )
Shaw66 Posted March 10, 2020 Posted March 10, 2020 9 hours ago, CountDorkula said: That pro-bowl season will be 5 seasons ago now. I've questioned whether he is worth it, regardless of contract based on the last 3-4 years of data saying he has been really really bad on the field, where it matters most. The only response i get is "How dare you question McD you idiot" and "its not your money" I have not seen a logical argument that shows otherwise other than he played zone well 5 years ago. No, you just ignore the logical arguments. You say the last three or four years of data show he was really bad. I posted data that showed he had the same number of interceptions in his first four years as in his last four, and he had about the same number of passes defended. That's a logical argument suggesting he has not been "really really bad on the field." But you ignore it and get all defensive. Plus, you and others ignore that this isn't a guy the Bills have signed to be a shut-down corner who plays the other teams' #1 guys. This is a guy they've signed at least for depth and to have a shot at getting some substantial playing time. This is a guy who has shown that he can play well in the defensive backfield scheme that McDermott teaches. Those are logical arguments that make the signing look like it makes sense. You don't like Norman. That's fine. We're all entitled to our opinions. That doesn't justify your getting all high and mighty and suggesting that there is no conceivable logic to the move. There's plenty of logic. You're either incapable of understanding it or unwilling to recognize it. 3 2
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