TigerJ Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 Basically, he's a big immovable 1 or 0 tech, isn't he. I assume much more of a run stuffer than pass defender. 1
Logic Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 DJ Reader is a very good player, but the fit seems odd to me. 5
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Good. I'm surprised to learn this though: Jordan Phillips, Bills Although Phillips recorded 9 1/2 sacks, he had just 19 additional pressures. He can play defensive end or tackle. Anyone able to explain to me when/how Phillips showed he can play DE? 3
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, Logic said: DJ Reader is a very good player, but the fit seems odd to me. After thinking about it a little more, I agree with this.
Reed83HOF Posted March 8, 2020 Author Posted March 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Good. I'm surprised to learn this though: Jordan Phillips, Bills Although Phillips recorded 9 1/2 sacks, he had just 19 additional pressures. He can play defensive end or tackle. Anyone able to explain to me when/how Phillips showed he can play DE?
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, NewEra said: I’d rather pay him than phillips Why? He's a true NT, maybe a 0 -1 tech. Doesn't fill Jordan Phillips role. Unless they expect to move Harrison Phillips to 3 tech? Would that work? Anyone? 1
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Why? He's a true NT, maybe a 0 -1 tech. Doesn't fill Jordan Phillips role. Unless they expect to move Harrison Phillips to 3 tech? Would that work? Anyone? I always thought Phillips was too small to play 0-1 tech full time. As for 3 tech, I think he would be good enough to spell Oliver there. I'm all for going after Reader. 1
HappyDays Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Why? He's a true NT, maybe a 0 -1 tech. Doesn't fill Jordan Phillips role. Unless they expect to move Harrison Phillips to 3 tech? Would that work? Anyone? McDermott likes a deep bench on the defensive line. I could see them switching between Star and Reader with the intention of this being Star's last year. Phillips would be versatile depth. That's how I can possibly make sense of this. 3
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: McDermott likes a deep bench on the defensive line. I could see them switching between Star and Reader with the intention of this being Star's last year. Phillips would be versatile depth. That's how I can possibly make sense of this. I think they expect more out of Phillips than 'versatile depth', as they should from a 3rd round pick going into his 3rd season. Rotating two DLmen you're paying a total of $20-21M is ....odd, and might still leave us with a Jordan Phillips size hole at 3-tech rotation.
TigerJ Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Why? He's a true NT, maybe a 0 -1 tech. Doesn't fill Jordan Phillips role. Unless they expect to move Harrison Phillips to 3 tech? Would that work? Anyone? Harrison Phillips was seen more as a nose tackle despite being undersized, because he's very stro0ng and his wrestling background gives him great understanding of hand usage and leverage. He was seen as having somewhat limited "burst" to get into the backfield and be disruptive. Before he was injured, however, he was working pretty hard to be more explosive. It's not out of the question for McDermott to think he's got some upside at 3 tech. 1 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 Just now, TigerJ said: Harrison Phillips was seen more as a nose tackle despite being undersized, because he's very stro0ng and his wrestling background gives him great understanding of hand usage and leverage. He was seen as having somewhat limited "burst" to get into the backfield and be disruptive. Before he was injured, however, he was working pretty hard to be more explosive. It's not out of the question for McDermott to think he's got some upside at 3 tech. Fair enough, but....
Kirby Jackson Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) Star’s contract prevents this from being a viable option IMO. I like Reader quite a bit but don’t think it’s realistic. Edited March 8, 2020 by Kirby Jackson
Logic Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 If they're thinking he's an upgrade over Star, then sure. As it stands, they have Star and Phillips at 1T and Oliver at 3T. So they need another 3T, and Reader ain't that. I know that Phillips is coming off an ACL tear, but he was a 3rd round pick just two years ago, was starting to come on last year and eat into Star's snaps, and they're not going to roster thee 1-techs. Again, I do think Reader is a superior player to Star, so if they have replacing him in mind, then great. I just find it hard to believe that they'd have asked him to take a pay cut rather than cutting him outright.
DCOrange Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 Seems like an odd use of the cap space, but he’d be a massive upgrade over Star and Aaron Wilson is very plugged in to everything Houston-related. Don’t think we can blow this report off though seems weird on the surface.
Happy Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 26 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Star’s contract prevents this from being a viable option IMO. I like Reader quite a bit but don’t think it’s realistic. How so? They just moved the potential out in Star's contract through the 2021 season rather than 2020 season. I doubt they cut Star until after 2021, but that doesn't stop them from bringing in another 1-tech and looking into shifting Harry Phillip to 3-tech, which is what I think they should explore doing. 1
Buffalo716 Posted March 8, 2020 Posted March 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Good. I'm surprised to learn this though: Jordan Phillips, Bills Although Phillips recorded 9 1/2 sacks, he had just 19 additional pressures. He can play defensive end or tackle. Anyone able to explain to me when/how Phillips showed he can play DE? I think they mean 34 end or 5 tech spot
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