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The broad jump and vert will probably put him somewhere around the 30th-40th percentile among NFL WRs in terms of "burst score". The 4.45-4.50 40 time is smack dab where NFL teams expected him to test and well above what most of the #DraftTwitter world expected. I imagine his speed score will be somewhere around the 90th-95th percentile.

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5 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

The broad jump and vert will probably put him somewhere around the 30th-40th percentile among NFL WRs in terms of "burst score". The 4.45-4.50 40 time is smack dab where NFL teams expected him to test and well above what most of the #DraftTwitter world expected. I imagine his speed score will be somewhere around the 90th-95th percentile.

 

Except that his only speed time is on the home field, which usually adds a grain of salt. 

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4 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

 

Except that his only speed time is on the home field, which usually adds a grain of salt. 

For sure. If you add .06 to his time (which I think is generally the average that Pro Day times are off by relative to Combine times), I think you likely end up somewhere around the upper 80s to lower 90s still. Depends on what his "official" Pro Day time is announced at. Michael Pittman at roughly the same size ran 4.52 and is 93rd percentile.

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23 minutes ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said:

31 inch vert is pedestrian, I know he is tall but dang

 

Yeah, that's very far down the WR list.   Not much explosion in Tee's legs, apparently...

 

Rk Year Player Pos Age AV School College Height Wt 40YD Vertical
BenchReps Broad Jump 3Cone Shuttle Drafted (tm/rnd/yr)
1 2020 Donovan Peoples-Jones WR     Michigan College Stats 6-2 212 4.48 44.5   139      
2 2020 Henry Ruggs III WR     Alabama College Stats 5-11 188 4.27 42.0   131      
3 2020 Jalen Reagor WR     TCU College Stats 5-11 206 4.47 42.0 17 138 7.31 4.46  
4 2020 Chase Claypool WR     Notre Dame College Stats 6-4 238 4.42 40.5 19 126      
5 2020 Chris Finke WR     Notre Dame College Stats 5-9 186 4.57 40.0 7        
6 2020 Brandon Aiyuk WR     Arizona State College Stats 6-0 205 4.50 40.0 11 128      
7 2020 Tyrie Cleveland WR     Florida College Stats 6-2 209 4.46 39.5 13 126      
8 2020 Denzel Mims WR     Baylor College Stats 6-3 207 4.38 38.5 16 131 6.66 4.43  
9 2020 John Hightower WR     Boise St. College Stats 6-1 189 4.43 38.5   122 7.07 4.21  
10 2020 Quintez Cephus WR     Wisconsin College Stats 6-1 202 4.73 38.5 23 124 7.20 4.33  
11 2020 Joe Reed WR     Virginia College Stats 6-0 224 4.47 38.0 21 123      
12 2020 Marquez Callaway WR     Tennessee College Stats 6-1 205 4.55 38.0   126      
13 2020 K.J. Osborn WR     Miami College Stats 5-11 203 4.48 37.5 18 123 7.00 4.35  
14 2020 Justin Jefferson WR     LSU College Stats 6-1 202 4.43 37.5   126      
15 2020 Darnell Mooney WR     Tulane College Stats 5-10 176 4.38 37.0 9 124      
16 2020 Jeff Thomas WR     Miami College Stats 5-9 170 4.45 36.5   125      
17 2020 Freddie Swain WR     Florida College Stats 6-0 197 4.46 36.5 16 124 7.05 4.26  
18 2020 Michael Pittman WR     USC College Stats 6-4 223 4.52 36.5 13 121 6.96 4.14  
19 2020 Isaiah Hodgins WR     Oregon St. College Stats 6-4 210 4.61 36.5 9 124 7.01 4.12  
20 2020 Quez Watkins WR     Southern Miss College Stats 6-0 185 4.35 36.5   125 7.28 4.36  
21 2020 Malcolm Perry WR     Navy College Stats 5-9 186 4.63 36.0 10 122 7.12 4.31  
22 2020 Dezmon Patmon WR     Washington St. College Stats 6-4 225 4.48 36.0 15 132 7.28 4.38  
23 2020 Trishton Jackson WR     Syracuse College Stats 6-1 197 4.50 36.0   117      
24 2020 Antonio Gandy-Golden WR     Liberty College Stats 6-4 223 4.60 36.0 22 127 7.33 4.55  
25 2020 Omar Bayless WR     Arkansas State College Stats 6-1 212 4.62 36.0 11 123 7.35 4.50  
26 2020 Isaiah Coulter WR     Rhode Island   6-2 198 4.45 36.0   121 7.28 4.62  
27 2020 Cody White WR     Michigan St. College Stats 6-3 217 4.66 35.5   120 7.19 4.52  
28 2020 Kendrick Rogers WR     Texas A&M College Stats 6-4 208 4.51 35.5 17 124 7.13 4.48  
29 2020 Devin Duvernay WR     Texas College Stats 5-10 200 4.39 35.5   123 7.13 4.20  
30 2020 Quartney Davis WR     Texas A&M College Stats 6-1 201 4.54 35.5          
31 2020 Darrell Stewart WR     Michigan St. College Stats 6-0 212   35.0 15 117      
32 2020 Jerry Jeudy WR     Alabama College Stats 6-1 193 4.45 35.0   120   4.53  
33 2020 Antonio Gibson WR     Memphis College Stats 6-0 228 4.39 35.0 16 118      
34 2020 Gabriel Davis WR     UCF College Stats 6-2 216 4.54 35.0 14 124 7.08 4.59  
35 2020 Ben Victor WR     Ohio St. College Stats 6-4 198 4.60 35.0 9 128 7.10    
36 2020 James Proche WR     SMU College Stats 5-11 201   34.5 20   7.27 4.40  
37 2020 CeeDee Lamb WR     Oklahoma College Stats 6-2 198 4.50 34.5 11 124      
38 2020 Stephen Guidry WR     Mississippi St. College Stats 6-3 201 4.47 34.0   125 7.31 4.46  
39 2020 Aaron Fuller WR     Washington College Stats 5-11 188 4.59 34.0   118 7.14    
40 2020 Tony Brown WR     Colorado College Stats 6-1 198 4.65 33.5 14 119 7.21 4.27  
41 2020 Juwan Johnson WR     Oregon College Stats 6-4 230 4.58 33.0 14 124 6.94 4.37  
42 2020 K.J. Hill WR     Ohio St. College Stats 6-0 196 4.60 32.5 17 114      
43 2020 Kalija Lipscomb WR     Vanderbilt College Stats 6-0 207 4.57 32.0 16 127      
44 2020 Austin Mack WR     Ohio St. College Stats 6-1 208 4.59 31.5   117   4.42  
45 2020 Jauan Jennings WR     Tennessee College Stats 6-3 215 4.72 29.0   119      
46 2020 Aaron Parker WR     Rhode Island   6-2 209 4.57 26.5 12 112 6.94 4.23  
47 2020 Laviska Shenault Jr. WR     Colorado College Stats 6-1 227 4.58   17        
48 2020 Tyler Johnson WR     Minnesota College Stats 6-1 206              
49 2020 Collin Johnson WR     Texas College Stats 6-6 222     17        
50 2020 Van Jefferson WR     Florida College Stats 6-1 200              
51 2020 Tee Higgins WR     Clemson College Stats 6-4 216              
52 2020 KJ Hamler WR     Penn St. College Stats 5-9 178     15        
53 2020 Bryan Edwards WR     South Carolina College Stats 6-3 212              
54 2020

Lawrence Cager

WR     Georgia College Stats 6-5 220              
55 2020 Lynn Bowden WR     Kentucky College Stats 5-11 204     13      

 

 

 

21 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

The broad jump and vert will probably put him somewhere around the 30th-40th percentile among NFL WRs in terms of "burst score".

 

Rk Year Player Pos Age AV School College Height Wt 40YD Vertical BenchReps Broad Jump
3Cone Shuttle Drafted (tm/rnd/yr)
1 2020 Donovan Peoples-Jones WR     Michigan College Stats 6-2 212 4.48 44.5   139      
2 2020 Jalen Reagor WR     TCU College Stats 5-11 206 4.47 42.0 17 138 7.31 4.46  
3 2020 Dezmon Patmon WR     Washington St. College Stats 6-4 225 4.48 36.0 15 132 7.28 4.38  
4 2020 Henry Ruggs III WR     Alabama College Stats 5-11 188 4.27 42.0   131      
5 2020 Denzel Mims WR     Baylor College Stats 6-3 207 4.38 38.5 16 131 6.66 4.43  
6 2020 Brandon Aiyuk WR     Arizona State College Stats 6-0 205 4.50 40.0 11 128      
7 2020 Ben Victor WR     Ohio St. College Stats 6-4 198 4.60 35.0 9 128 7.10    
8 2020 Antonio Gandy-Golden WR     Liberty College Stats 6-4 223 4.60 36.0 22 127 7.33 4.55  
9 2020 Kalija Lipscomb WR     Vanderbilt College Stats 6-0 207 4.57 32.0 16 127      
10 2020 Chase Claypool WR     Notre Dame College Stats 6-4 238 4.42 40.5 19 126      
11 2020 Tyrie Cleveland WR     Florida College Stats 6-2 209 4.46 39.5 13 126      
12 2020 Marquez Callaway WR     Tennessee College Stats 6-1 205 4.55 38.0   126      
13 2020 Justin Jefferson WR     LSU College Stats 6-1 202 4.43 37.5   126      
14 2020 Jeff Thomas WR     Miami College Stats 5-9 170 4.45 36.5   125      
15 2020 Quez Watkins WR     Southern Miss College Stats 6-0 185 4.35 36.5   125 7.28 4.36  
16 2020 Stephen Guidry WR     Mississippi St. College Stats 6-3 201 4.47 34.0   125 7.31 4.46  
17 2020 Quintez Cephus WR     Wisconsin College Stats 6-1 202 4.73 38.5 23 124 7.20 4.33  
18 2020 Darnell Mooney WR     Tulane College Stats 5-10 176 4.38 37.0 9 124      
19 2020 Freddie Swain WR     Florida College Stats 6-0 197 4.46 36.5 16 124 7.05 4.26  
20 2020 Isaiah Hodgins WR     Oregon St. College Stats 6-4 210 4.61 36.5 9 124 7.01 4.12  
21 2020 Kendrick Rogers WR     Texas A&M College Stats 6-4 208 4.51 35.5 17 124 7.13 4.48  
22 2020 Gabriel Davis WR     UCF College Stats 6-2 216 4.54 35.0 14 124 7.08 4.59  
23 2020 CeeDee Lamb WR     Oklahoma College Stats 6-2 198 4.50 34.5 11 124      
24 2020 Juwan Johnson WR     Oregon College Stats 6-4 230 4.58 33.0 14 124 6.94 4.37  
25 2020 Joe Reed WR     Virginia College Stats 6-0 224 4.47 38.0 21 123      
26 2020 K.J. Osborn WR     Miami College Stats 5-11 203 4.48 37.5 18 123 7.00 4.35  
27 2020 Omar Bayless WR     Arkansas State College Stats 6-1 212 4.62 36.0 11 123 7.35 4.50  
28 2020 Devin Duvernay WR     Texas College Stats 5-10 200 4.39 35.5   123 7.13 4.20  
29 2020 John Hightower WR     Boise St. College Stats 6-1 189 4.43 38.5   122 7.07 4.21  
30 2020 Malcolm Perry WR     Navy College Stats 5-9 186 4.63 36.0 10 122 7.12 4.31  
31 2020 Michael Pittman WR     USC College Stats 6-4 223 4.52 36.5 13 121 6.96 4.14  
32 2020 Isaiah Coulter WR     Rhode Island   6-2 198 4.45 36.0   121 7.28 4.62  
33 2020 Cody White WR     Michigan St. College Stats 6-3 217 4.66 35.5   120 7.19 4.52  
34 2020 Jerry Jeudy WR     Alabama College Stats 6-1 193 4.45 35.0   120   4.53  
35 2020 Tony Brown WR     Colorado College Stats 6-1 198 4.65 33.5 14 119 7.21 4.27  
36 2020 Jauan Jennings WR     Tennessee College Stats 6-3 215 4.72 29.0   119      
37 2020 Antonio Gibson WR     Memphis College Stats 6-0 228 4.39 35.0 16 118      
38 2020 Aaron Fuller WR     Washington College Stats 5-11 188 4.59 34.0   118 7.14    
39 2020 Trishton Jackson WR     Syracuse College Stats 6-1 197 4.50 36.0   117      
40 2020 Darrell Stewart WR     Michigan St. College Stats 6-0 212   35.0 15 117      
41 2020 Austin Mack WR     Ohio St. College Stats 6-1 208 4.59 31.5   117   4.42  
42 2020 K.J. Hill WR     Ohio St. College Stats 6-0 196 4.60 32.5 17 114      
43 2020 Aaron Parker WR     Rhode Island   6-2 209 4.57 26.5 12 112 6.94 4.23  
44 2020 Chris Finke WR     Notre Dame College Stats 5-9 186 4.57 40.0 7        
45 2020 Quartney Davis WR     Texas A&M College Stats 6-1 201 4.54 35.5          
46 2020 James Proche WR     SMU College Stats 5-11 201   34.5 20   7.27 4.40  
47 2020 Laviska Shenault Jr. WR     Colorado College Stats 6-1 227 4.58   17        
48 2020 Tyler Johnson WR     Minnesota College Stats 6-1 206              
49 2020 Collin Johnson WR     Texas College Stats 6-6 222     17        
50 2020 Van Jefferson WR     Florida College Stats 6-1 200              
51 2020 Tee Higgins WR     Clemson College Stats 6-4 216              
52 2020 KJ Hamler WR     Penn St. College Stats 5-9 178     15        
53 2020 Bryan Edwards WR     South Carolina College Stats 6-3 212              
54 2020 Lawrence Cager WR     Georgia College Stats 6-5 220              
55 2020 Lynn Bowden WR     Kentucky College Stats 5-11 204     13      

 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said:

Higgins at 22 looks more and more likely, lol.

 

Well, his vertical and long jump were pretty crappy, calling into question his explosiveness.    Has there been any agility testing (3-cone, etc.) at his pro day?

Posted
1 hour ago, Lurker said:

 

Well, his vertical and long jump were pretty crappy, calling into question his explosiveness.    Has there been any agility testing (3-cone, etc.) at his pro day?

There was...he slipped during it though so it's likely going to be a terrible time if he doesn't re-do it, but ultimately teams won't read much into it in that case.

Posted
5 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

There was...he slipped during it though so it's likely going to be a terrible time if he doesn't re-do it, but ultimately teams won't read much into it in that case.

DK slipped too last year...

Posted
1 hour ago, Lurker said:

 

Well, his vertical and long jump were pretty crappy, calling into question his explosiveness.    Has there been any agility testing (3-cone, etc.) at his pro day?

I have zero questions about Higgins ability to go pluck a ball.

 

Just now, Hebert19 said:

4.43 is same time as sammy too.  Too many similarities.  Pass.  Ha

They are two vastly different players.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said:

I have zero questions about Higgins ability to go pluck a ball.

 

They are two vastly different players.

I know.  Was sarcasm. 

Posted
3 hours ago, whatdrought said:


PFF likes him, enough said. 
 

they also published his 40 time as 4.43 even though nobody else had it above a 4.5 

So PFF is good now?

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, whatdrought said:


Right, but It seemed like people thought both of his runs were over 4.5?

? Didn’t see that 

 

edit - to be clear anything under a 4.6 was good for him anyway 

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