Lurker Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 29 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Yeah seriously. Have to ? at the “he’s not a WR1” stuff...exactly which ‘Bama WR was the WR1? Well, in this year's "Iron Bowl" with Auburn--the best college game I saw all season--it was...Waddle (although Ruggs wasn't that far behind)... https://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=401110865
Allen2Moulds Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 Justin Jefferson looks a lot like Robert Woods to me. Don't get me wrong, I would love to have a Robert Woods on our team, but not as a 1, or X receiver. 2
Teddy KGB Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, Lurker said: Well, in this year's "Iron Bowl" with Auburn--the best college game I saw all season--it was...Waddle (although Ruggs wasn't that far behind)... https://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=401110865 I like the other LSU WR, who went crazy vs Clemson.
DJB Posted March 7, 2020 Author Posted March 7, 2020 31 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: I like the other LSU WR, who went crazy vs Clemson. I think that's Jamaar Chase. Hes going top 5 probably next year 2
Lurker Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, DJB said: I think that's Jamaar Chase. Hes going top 5 probably next year Yes he is. He's the best WR in college football. Better than Lamb and Jeudy, IMO...
Shaw66 Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 11 hours ago, Plano said: too short. We need a WR that is at least 6'5" Maybe 6'9". 1
BillsFan17 Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 To me Jefferson projects as a high end slot guy. Which, let's be honest a lot of players have made very strong careers lining up as a slot. The position has evolved. To be honest, if the kid ends up massively productive as just that, a slot, are we really going to gripe? Especially with how Daboll has helped Josh in the short to intermediate game. Yes, we want that dynamic homerun threat, but having a sure handed, nifty route runner who is going to move the chains and be a redzone mismatch, I'll take that all day. 1
Yantha Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 Pretty hard to argue against taking this kid at 22. Awesome talent.
CajunBillsBacker Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 50 minutes ago, BillsFan17 said: To me Jefferson projects as a high end slot guy. Which, let's be honest a lot of players have made very strong careers lining up as a slot. The position has evolved. To be honest, if the kid ends up massively productive as just that, a slot, are we really going to gripe? Especially with how Daboll has helped Josh in the short to intermediate game. Yes, we want that dynamic homerun threat, but having a sure handed, nifty route runner who is going to move the chains and be a redzone mismatch, I'll take that all day. This guy has it figured out. Josh Allen is at his best throwing lasers in the 10-20 yard range. A deep threat WR won’t fix Josh’s deep ball accuracy as much as some want to believe. Josh would be best served having a couple receivers who can find space in the intermediate range and make a contested catch. That’s what Jefferson does best. 2
GunnerBill Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, DCOrange said: Just curious what your WR rankings are since you and I seem to see things pretty similarly in general. I think we view Jefferson mostly the same way but I'd still be willing to consider him in the first round. Not my preferred choice but I think he's worth considering based on who will likely be available at 22. My receiver rankings are #1 Jeudy #2 Lamb #3 Ruggs - - - - #4 Higgins #5 Aiyuk #6 Reagor #7 Hamler #8 Jefferson #9 Shenault #10 Mims - - - - #11 Pittman #12 Claypool I'd consider Jefferson at the end of the first if I was a team like Green Bay or New Orleans who are looking for a running mate. If I was a team looking for someone who could be a main dog and play primarily outside (which is I think where the Bills are) then Jefferson wouldn't be for me in the first. Edited March 7, 2020 by GunnerBill 1
row_33 Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 The annual fall in love with a WR because he looked great the one game you saw him play thing The greatest NFL players have rarely come out of top programs.... This is so cute and sweet and laughable every year
aristocrat Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 31 minutes ago, row_33 said: The annual fall in love with a WR because he looked great the one game you saw him play thing The greatest NFL players have rarely come out of top programs.... This is so cute and sweet and laughable every year top 10 wr's in yards all went to big programs except for golladay-northern illioois, and cooper kupp eastern washington. dj moore went to maryland. rest were, lsu, penn st, bama, ohio st, etc. 1
thebandit27 Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: My receiver rankings are #1 Jeudy #2 Lamb #3 Ruggs - - - - #4 Higgins #5 Aiyuk #6 Reagor #7 Hamler #8 Jefferson #9 Shenault #10 Mims - - - - #11 Pittman #12 Claypool I'd consider Jefferson at the end of the first if I was a team like Green Bay or New Orleans who are looking for a running mate. If I was a team looking for someone who could be a main dog and play primarily outside (which is I think where the Bills are) then Jefferson wouldn't be for me in the first. Swap Jefferson and Higgins and draw a tier between 7 and 8 and those are my rankings. 1
Troll Toll Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 Watched the highlights... not really that impressed. Too little separation, just wait until he faces NFL corners every week. From what Beane said, Ruggs is the only guy that could come anywhere close to fitting their Tyreek Hill description. After watching the video available on the receivers this year, I don’t think any of them project to the NFL (and as receivers to compliment Allen specifically) as well as AJ Brown and DK Metcalf did last year. Beane and scouting really blew it by passing on those guys who were gift wrapped for us in round 2 last year. They would be like having 2 #1 receivers, paired with Brown and Beasley. Is Ruggs even as good as Hollywood Brown? This has the feeling of the year we drafted Manuel because we were dead set on going QB. Although WR is definitely our biggest need, I’d start looking at other positions. 1
thebandit27 Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Troll Toll said: Watched the highlights... not really that impressed. Too little separation, just wait until he faces NFL corners every week. From what Beane said, Ruggs is the only guy that could come anywhere close to fitting their Tyreek Hill description. After watching the video available on the receivers this year, I don’t think any of them project to the NFL (and as receivers to compliment Allen specifically) as well as AJ Brown and DK Metcalf did last year. Beane and scouting really blew it by passing on those guys who were gift wrapped for us in round 2 last year. They would be like having 2 #1 receivers, paired with Brown and Beasley. Is Ruggs even as good as Hollywood Brown? This has the feeling of the year we drafted Manuel because we were dead set on going QB. Although WR is definitely our biggest need, I’d start looking at other positions. This can’t be a serious post 2
BillsFan17 Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, row_33 said: The annual fall in love with a WR because he looked great the one game you saw him play thing The greatest NFL players have rarely come out of top programs.... This is so cute and sweet and laughable every year Michael Thomas- OSU Julio Jones- 'Bama ODB- LSU Hopkins- Clemson Keenan Allen- Cal Robinson- Penn State Boyd- U of Pitt. Robert Woods- USC Godwin- PSU All-in-all, I too would stay away from the big schools when looking for WRs. That being said, sarcasm aside Rhode Island has a kid Isaiah Coulter that could be a big time sleeper.
SoCal Deek Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 What happened to Shenault? A few weeks ago he was the guy (even though I’d never heard of him). Now he’s hardly mentioned even in later rounds.
DCOrange Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: What happened to Shenault? A few weeks ago he was the guy (even though I’d never heard of him). Now he’s hardly mentioned even in later rounds. He’s viewed as a Round 2 guy now after his disappointing 40 time, skipping the other drills, and getting surgery.
Troll Toll Posted March 7, 2020 Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, thebandit27 said: This can’t be a serious post I’m serious. If I were in Beane’s position, the only receivers I would be looking at are: 1) CeeDee Lamb (Round 1) 2) Tee Higgins (Round 2) 3) Brandon Aiyuk (Round 2) 4) Laviska Shenault (Round 3) These guys would make the Bills better. That said, none of these guys are the matchup nightmare for CBs that AJ Brown and DK Metcalf are. CeeDee Lamb will likely be gone by the Bills pick, but I would be hard pressed to trade up for him. I think the Bills will either have to go a different direction Round 1 or trade back to get real value. As for the other receivers I take off the board: Jeudy - his running style is a knee injury waiting to happen Ruggs - I question his production and his completeness as a receiver. He seems to be somewhere between Hollywood Brown and Parris Campbell in terms of ability. Hamler - too small Jefferson - lack of separation Reagor - inconsistent / disappears Claypool / Pittman / Mims - unimpressive on tape
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