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3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think it’s just because he’s working out with Sam Darnold at USC and Pittman is there too

 

 

You blow that common sense, reasonable, likely accurate logic right out your backside, YOLO.  YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE NEXT BUFFALO BILL!

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I agree.

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1 hour ago, J-GunJoshAllen17 said:

His sports diet specialist is telling him to keep a steady diet of cheap beer and chicken wings?  Also toning up does not mean adding muscle mass.  It means dropping the 10-15 lbs of unnecessary fat he is carrying.  He might want to add anoth 5-10 lbs of muscle after that which I don't think would hurt his movement.  IMO he does not appear to be in the shape he needs to be in to achieve optimal performanc eon the football field.  

 

Pretty sure you have no clue about Josh Allen and whether or not he is in shape.

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2 minutes ago, MJS said:

Pretty sure you have no clue about Josh Allen and whether or not he is in shape.

My main bone of contention in @J-GunJoshAllen17’s post was when he insinuated that Josh drinks “cheap beer”. With the quantity he put back at the Sabres game a few weeks back, I am quite certain that his beer budget is quite strong.

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3 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

Pittman at 54 you think is too high? You think he’ll still be there after pick 87?

 

hes got a round 2-3 grade. He 6’4” 225, 4.5 40 guy with a sub 7 3 cone... very productive in college and has bloodlines. High character guy.... those guys don’t last long. No way he makes it past the first 5-10 picks in round 3. I’d grade him 50-70... 

 

trade back into 2nd to get him.  first 2nd round pick is too high, esp. if someone like Mims is around (unlikely)   

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1 hour ago, J-GunJoshAllen17 said:

I'm not joking.  He is not in great shape.  He is in decent shape for an athlete but not even really that good of shape.  If he is going to be a QB who relies on escapability and running ability, he would be better if he took his training and diet to the next level.  


Seems like a joke.    The guys out there hurdling elite nfl defenders and running for first downs and more with ease.  

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2 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

I can see Allen looking like Big Ben in a few years.  He’s naturally a big dude and Buffalo has great but terrible for you food and he loves Popeyes.  That said, Big Ben (when not in a bathroom) is a really good qb.

 

I hope not.   Big Ben could in theory have gone from being a really good QB to a great QB if he took better care of his body.

 

Bruce Smith laid it out there in a little media piece watching film with Tre White.  He said you control 3 things: your film study, your nutrition, and your physical condition. 

 

There were a couple plays this season where if Josh had a little more burst he could have evaded a tackle and scored a touch or a first down.  I would like to see him follow Bruce Smith's advice and do the best that he can with his physical conditioning and nutrition, just as part of having that "do everything with a Championship mentality" state of mind.

 

I don't think Josh looks tubby, but I don't think he looks as fit and trim as he did before the draft, either, and if he truly wants to be great, he's literally leaving performance he could grasp on the table. 

 

All that said, Josh's biggest development need is still between his ears.

 

22 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

Seems like a joke.    The guys out there hurdling elite nfl defenders and running for first downs and more with ease.  

 

It's a point that Josh's yards per rush dropped this past season.  I think a lot of that is delayed decisions to run in favor of waiting for a receiver to come open, but I also agree that he doesn't look as buff as he did before the draft and he seemed a bit slower at times.

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2 hours ago, J-GunJoshAllen17 said:

His sports diet specialist is telling him to keep a steady diet of cheap beer and chicken wings?  Also toning up does not mean adding muscle mass.  It means dropping the 10-15 lbs of unnecessary fat he is carrying.  He might want to add anoth 5-10 lbs of muscle after that which I don't think would hurt his movement.  IMO he does not appear to be in the shape he needs to be in to achieve optimal performanc eon the football field. 

 

Look, I agree that Josh looks like he could get a bit more shredded and it couldn't hurt, but you literally have no idea what Josh eats as a regular diet.  Being seen at a Sabres game drinking with his two TE or eating the occasional Bar Bill does not mean "steady diet of cheap beer and chicken wings". 

 

And again...all that said, Josh's biggest development need is still between his ears.  An extra hour hitting the weights may not help him achieve optimal performance as a QB, as much as an extra hour in the film room will do right now.

 

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1 hour ago, J-GunJoshAllen17 said:

I'm not joking.  He is not in great shape.  He is in decent shape for an athlete but not even really that good of shape.  If he is going to be a QB who relies on escapability and running ability, he would be better if he took his training and diet to the next level.  

 

Dude, just stop.  You're embarrassing yourself.  The trolling isn't working.

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2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

I'd like to know when being "shredded" made someone a good quarterback?   Brady Quinn and Tim Tebow are human specimens and can't hold Brett Favre's cheap beer and dip.

And Ben Roethlisberger is a fat lard and has been most of his career.

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6 hours ago, J-GunJoshAllen17 said:

I wish Josh would put down the beer and the chicken wings for a few years.  He could definitely tone up a bit and it would make him stronger and faster.  Could make a big difference on some plays.

 

like that 4th and 1 play at Dallas where he jumped over and bulled the entire DL backwards? Yeah, he wasn't strong enough there......?

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4 hours ago, eball said:

 

Dude, just stop.  You're embarrassing yourself.  The trolling isn't working.

Not trolling and thanks but I'll choose to continue to give my opinion despite the embarrassment.  He could be in better shape and it is obvious.  You might think it doesn't matter but I doubt there is an athlete that will tell their performance isn't at least a bit better when they are in peak physical condition.  I love Josh Allen and think he is going to be very good if not great, but I feel like he has a step to take in his conditioning.  

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21 minutes ago, J-GunJoshAllen17 said:

Not trolling and thanks but I'll choose to continue to give my opinion despite the embarrassment.  He could be in better shape and it is obvious.  You might think it doesn't matter but I doubt there is an athlete that will tell their performance isn't at least a bit better when they are in peak physical condition.  I love Josh Allen and think he is going to be very good if not great, but I feel like he has a step to take in his conditioning.  

 

Yeah, I mean, it was a shame how he was hurt all the time last season and....umm...

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Posted
9 hours ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

Or Beane making sure he gets debriefed on their workout. Yes you are 100% right.

Or Beane making sure draftee has information from Beane without doing it directly.  Could be an end around rules.

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10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think it’s just because he’s working out with Sam Darnold at USC and Pittman is there too

Exactly! Don't read into this too much. Pittman is a decent wr but only in the 3rd round.

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