New NFL substance policy: no more testing for pot

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

Proof is widely reported today

guess they compromised. Interesting that occurs in a CBA Negotiation 

Or they don’t exist, more likely.  
 

EVERY owner knew players would give up way too much for this minor concession 

[1ManRaid]

"They won't test for pot anymore, except for the time that they do."

 

...?

2 hours ago, boater said:

OK. So not suspending a player for ganja is now acceptable. Got it, I'm not crying in my milk.

 

Unpopular opinion alert: the combine should test for stoners. If you're a club, knowing the recreational drug use of your prospects is legit concern.

I don't know about you, but I've never liked the idea of my employer having a say in what legal things I can do in my personal life.  Kind of a big slippery slope type deal there.

[White Linen]

Using drugs is no big deal - I never thought I'd see the day.  

[PromoTheRobot]

3 hours ago, Lurker said:

 

A man ahead of his time.

5 hours ago, Heitz said:

 

Start of the Smoking Season.  Also a day likely to be affected by Coronavirus - BYOW, please.

 

Lastly, does this policy extend to Hammer's Lot?  Asking for a friend...

 

 

 

There's a Hammer's policy on ganja? 

[SirAndrew]

high time

55 minutes ago, White Linen said:

Using drugs is no big deal - I never thought I'd see the day.  

You’ve seen the day your entire life, you just didn’t know it. It’s called alcohol and tobacco. 

[White Linen]

14 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

high time

You’ve seen the day your entire life, you just didn’t know it. It’s called alcohol and tobacco. 

 

And adding to that makes it better?  Wake up.

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, 1ManRaid said:

"They won't test for pot anymore, except for the time that they do."

 

...?

I don't know about you, but I've never liked the idea of my employer having a say in what legal things I can do in my personal life.  Kind of a big slippery slope type deal there.

 

 

No it's not at all. It's done routinely in many industries and fields--they aren't telling you what you can't do in your personal life.  They are saying you can't work for them if you choose to do certain things.  It's widely accepted.

 

You don't have to work in any of those fields if you don't want to though....

Edited March 6, 2020 by Mr. WEO

[SirAndrew]

16 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

And adding to that makes it better?  Wake up.

I get your point, but the truth is very few people completely abstain from all substances. I’m an advocate for clean living as I think it’s best for mind, body, and soul.  I’m not opposed to the occasional drink, but it’s not like I encourage drug use. It’s just reasonable logic to me that the league lifts this prohibition. I’ve seen the damages caused by alcoholism, and it’s as ugly as anything. In a league that promotes alcohol, the demonization of weed seems irrational. This is a larger cultural/societal issue, but it’s tough for me to watch the Chiefs chugging beer at their victory parade, only to see guys suspending for getting high off the job. 

6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

No it's not at all. It's done routinely in many industries and fields--they aren't telling you what you can't do in your personal life.  They are saying you can't work for them if you choose to do certain things.  It's widely accepted.

 

You don't have to work in any of those fields if you don't want to though....

Lots of non driving careers are doing away with these policies though, simply because the  need to be able to find employees. No one ever tested the alcoholic who came to work hungover every day. The world moved along just fine. Employers are starting to wise up, and get over irrational fears. 

Edited March 6, 2020 by SirAndrew

[Mr. WEO]

3 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

I get your point, but the truth is very few people completely abstain from all substances. I’m an advocate for clean living as I think it’s best for mind, body, and soul.  I’m not opposed to the occasional drink, but it’s not like I encourage drug use. It’s just reasonable logic to me that the league lifts this prohibition. I’ve seen the damages caused by alcoholism, and it’s as ugly as anything. In a league that promotes alcohol, the demonization of weed seems irrational. This is a larger cultural/societal issue, but it’s tough for me to watch the Chiefs chugging beer at their victory parade, only to see guys suspending for getting high off the job. 

Lots of non driving careers are doing away with these policies though, simply because the  need to be able to find employees. No one ever tested the alcoholic who came to work hungover every day. The world moved along just fine. Employees are starting to wise up, and get over irrational fears. 

 

 

Employees can get over all the fears they want.  They still will abide by the restraints their employer legally puts on them or they find another place ton work.

[Boatdrinks]

6 hours ago, Logic said:

Amazingly, the testing date has always been on 4/20.

Too much of a coincidence to be a coincidence.

I’m guessing so players remember when it is. 

[Kirby Jackson]

Raise your hand if you’ve been saying that this would happen for years

 

[SirAndrew]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

Employees can get over all the fears they want.  They still will abide by the restraints their employer legally puts on them or they find another place ton work.

I meant to say employers ?. They are loosening up many of their testing restrictions. A dude who smoked weed is no worse than a guy who got drunk on Scotch last night. It will take time, but eventually every employer will see it this way imo. 

[Boatdrinks]

It’s about time. The other major sports leagues don’t test for it; crazy that it took this long. 

[Mr. WEO]

3 minutes ago, SirAndrew said:

I meant to say employers ?. They are loosening up many of their testing restrictions. A dude who smoked weed is no worse than a guy who got drunk on Scotch last night. It will take time, but eventually every employer will see it this way imo. 

 

 

LOL, no chance.

 

 

4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Raise your hand if you’ve been saying that this would happen for years

 

 

 

[Mango]

What Ricky Williams could have been if he was drafted in 2020...

[Phil The Thrill]

now that they aren’t testing for pot, we’ll see the magic of this miraculous wonder drug!!!!!!!!!

9 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Raise your hand if you’ve been saying that this would happen for years

 

I can attest....Kirby’s been a proud pot head for a while

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

LOL, no chance.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, this was such a no brainer. The NFL didn’t want guys missing 4 games for weed any more than the NFLPA. It’s a bad look for everyone. It looks like the NFL has a drug problem while the NBA, as an example, is fine. The reality is they are all smoking weed. It’s WAY over half of the players in both leagues. The difference is the NBA treated it as “out of sight, out of mind” and the NFL played police. The NFL already has image concerns with domestic violence. It’s in their best interest to let minor stuff like weed go. That was true before it was so socially accepted but especially true during the opioid crisis. That gives them cover.

1 minute ago, Phil The Thrill said:

now that they aren’t testing for pot, we’ll see the magic of this miraculous wonder drug!!!!!!!!!

I can attest....Kirby’s been a proud pot head for a while

Ha ha, I supplied a good number of these fools in Houston!!

[Phil The Thrill]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Yeah, this was such a no brainer. The NFL didn’t want guys missing 4 games for weed any more than the NFLPA. It’s a bad look for everyone. It looks like the NFL has a drug problem while the NBA, as an example, is fine. The reality is they are all smoking weed. It’s WAY over half of the players in both leagues. The difference is the NBA treated it as “out of sight, out of mind” and the NFL played police. The NFL already has image concerns with domestic violence. It’s in their best interest to let minor stuff like weed go. That was true before it was so socially accepted but especially true during the opioid crisis. That gives them cover.

Ha ha, I supplied a good number of these fools in Houston!!

Bills players?  Or fans?

[Mr. WEO]

2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Yeah, this was such a no brainer. The NFL didn’t want guys missing 4 games for weed any more than the NFLPA. It’s a bad look for everyone. It looks like the NFL has a drug problem while the NBA, as an example, is fine. The reality is they are all smoking weed. It’s WAY over half of the players in both leagues. The difference is the NBA treated it as “out of sight, out of mind” and the NFL played police. The NFL already has image concerns with domestic violence. It’s in their best interest to let minor stuff like weed go. That was true before it was so socially accepted but especially true during the opioid crisis. That gives them cover.

Ha ha, I supplied a good number of these fools in Houston!!

 

It was a gift the league gave themselves.  They knew how much this one pretty insignificant issue meant to the players so they made it seem like it was an iron-clad nonstarter--especially given the suspensions handed out the last few years leading up to this CBA negotiation.  They wanted to appear as unmovable on this topic.

 

Then, in order to get what they really wanted all along (another regular season game), they put "no testing" in play.....and the union jumped and swallowed it hook, line and sinker.  

 

Once again, the league can't believe how easy it was too get the union to give in to another game.  They set this up perfectly.  

[SirAndrew]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

It was a gift the league gave themselves.  They knew how much this one pretty insignificant issue meant to the players so they made it seem like it was an iron-clad nonstarter--especially given the suspensions handed out the last few years leading up to this CBA negotiation.  They wanted to appear as unmovable on this topic.

 

Then, in order to get what they really wanted all along (another regular season game), they put "no testing" in play.....and the union jumped and swallowed it hook, line and sinker.  

 

Once again, the league can't believe how easy it was too get the union to give in to another game.  They set this up perfectly.  

Didn’t the extra game check also appeal a great deal to the lower earning players though? I think it’s a bit hyperbolic to say they scammed them with just the pot testing.