ghostwriter Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 I know a lot of fans were upset with him and some folks say he should be bumped into guard but at the end of the day he was playing with a torn rotator cuff. Could this be the reason why he struggled at times? He seemed to get push in the run game and has freakish brute strength. He may not be as long as you want but he could improve with another year in the system. Are we giving up on him too early?
Captain Murica Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 Injury or not, he still had issues with speed off the edge. 1
auburnbillsbacker Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) I think he will be our starting LG. This would not mean the Bills have given up on him. He has the potential to be a great guard and has struggled at RT. I think the Bills want to upgrade RT. Edited March 5, 2020 by auburnbillsbacker 2
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 It's not uncommon for players to take a step between their rookie and second seasons. Ford had his issues. He also played well at times. He's got an edge, and I like that. It puzzles me that people seem, overall, willing to overlook or excuse Knox's horrid "dropsies" last year on the thought he's a rookie, he showed flashes of spectacular play, he'll improve. But overall people aren't willing to give Ford (who also showed flashes of strong play) the same rookie benefit of doubt. 16 2
Bulldog Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 Don't give up on players after their rookie season - unless they were ridiculously bad - which he was not. Need to give these guys a full off-season of NFL quality training and preparation before beginning to make conclusions about a guy. Many of these linemen have always been significantly bigger and stronger than everyone they have played against in high school & college - therefore they don't really have to learn proper technique. Once they are in the NFL - everyone else is a big & strong as they are and all of the sudden technique means everything. Plus - NFL quality training & medical for a full off-season can make a huge difference to a player. Bottom line - too early to give up on a young player like Cody Ford. 4
buffaloboyinATL Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 I chose unsure, only because of the limited options. I think he will likely be our starting RT, unless we pick up a strong free agent RT. (I originally abbreviated that, but FA RT did not look right ?). I also don't think his "struggles" were necessarily injury related, I think they were primarily due to the fact that he was a rookie. I think we will find out this year if he will be the answer at RT, based on the improvement he makes in his sophomore season.
BarleyNY Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It's not uncommon for players to take a step between their rookie and second seasons. Ford had his issues. He also played well at times. He's got an edge, and I like that. It puzzles me that people seem, overall, willing to overlook or excuse Knox's horrid "dropsies" last year on the thought he's a rookie, he showed flashes of spectacular play, he'll improve. But overall people aren't willing to give Ford (who also showed flashes of strong play) the same rookie benefit of doubt. RG wasn’t exactly a strength last season either. Lots of OTs have issues if they’re constantly peeking inside to see if they need to give help. I don’t know if this was the case last season or not, but how the player(s) next to an OLman having trouble are playing is always something to look at. Plus a torn rotator cuff is a significant injury for any OLman. I expect some OL additions this offseason to shore up that squad. We certainly have the resources to do that. If Ford struggles or if the injury bug hits, then there’s no excuse for us not to have good enough depth to keep a solid line together.
Dopey Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 I hope he stays at RT. Overall, I liked what I saw from the rook. He should take a nice step forward. We have to remember, 4 out of 5 on the o-line were new to the team and they really didn't practice or play together as a unit in training camp due to injuries. I expect our o-line to show a ton of progress. Especially with an upgrade at WR's, a younger, better backup to Devin. Our new TE's will also take a step forward, which will help the o-line. 4 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I chose unsure, only because of the limited options. I think he will likely be our starting RT, unless we pick up a strong free agent RT. (I originally abbreviated that, but FA RT did not look right ?). I also don't think his "struggles" were necessarily injury related, I think they were primarily due to the fact that he was a rookie. I think we will find out this year if he will be the answer at RT, based on the improvement he makes in his sophomore season. 1
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 He could become a great RT, he has amazing size and has long arms. His footwork out of his stance definitely needs some work. I think if he can improve his footwork and quickness he will have a very good year at RT. Ford doesn’t seem to have a problem with the mental side of the game and seems like a good teammate. I feel like he will have a good year at RT but it all depends on him improving his weaknesses.
Mike in Horseheads Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 He was a rookie last year, I think he deserves another year.
ghostwriter Posted March 5, 2020 Author Posted March 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, Captain Murica said: Injury or not, he still had issues with speed off the edge. Our interest in Thuney could suggest that our FO believes in Ford at RT. I think what we do in free agency will be an indicator as to what we do with Ford. 2
Happy Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 I think it depends on if Beane finds someone better either in the draft or FA, and the guy beats Ford out of a job in camp.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: RG wasn’t exactly a strength last season either. Lots of OTs have issues if they’re constantly peeking inside to see if they need to give help. I don’t know if this was the case last season or not, but how the player(s) next to an OLman having trouble are playing is always something to look at. Plus a torn rotator cuff is a significant injury for any OLman. I expect some OL additions this offseason to shore up that squad. We certainly have the resources to do that. If Ford struggles or if the injury bug hits, then there’s no excuse for us not to have good enough depth to keep a solid line together. I thought RG was pretty good, but of course OL is one of the hardest positions for observers who don't know the actual assignments to judge, and everyone's play is impacted by the guy next to them. There were several (too many) plays where the blocking for roll-outs got messed up when someone stepped on someone's foot or tripped over on the R side - I couldn't figure out who was responsible, but whoever plays RG and RT next year, Bills need to sign them up for Salsa-dancing lessons. Were both Mongo and Ford rotator cuffs surgeries?
DFT Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) Let’s see what a year into an NFL strength, agility and conditioning program does for him. He may be much improved from last year. Or... He may still have glue on his heals. Edited March 5, 2020 by DFT
The Jokeman Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 At this point he's our best starting option on the roster, I'd be okay bringing in a vet to compete (see Dennis Kelly).
BillsFan17 Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 38 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It's not uncommon for players to take a step between their rookie and second seasons. Ford had his issues. He also played well at times. He's got an edge, and I like that. It puzzles me that people seem, overall, willing to overlook or excuse Knox's horrid "dropsies" last year on the thought he's a rookie, he showed flashes of spectacular play, he'll improve. But overall people aren't willing to give Ford (who also showed flashes of strong play) the same rookie benefit of doubt. All depends what lense you want to look at things. Especially when Knox had the memorable play. Seldom is anyone watching the O Line, let alone have the faintest idea what the assignment is, etc... I think Ford will kick inside and be a stellar guard.
BarleyNY Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I thought RG was pretty good, but of course OL is one of the hardest positions for observers who don't know the actual assignments to judge, and everyone's play is impacted by the guy next to them. There were several (too many) plays where the blocking for roll-outs got messed up when someone stepped on someone's foot or tripped over on the R side - I couldn't figure out who was responsible, but whoever plays RG and RT next year, Bills need to sign them up for Salsa-dancing lessons. Were both Mongo and Ford rotator cuffs surgeries? Yes, Feliciano and Ford both had rotator cuff surgery. 1 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 5, 2020 Posted March 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: He's a liability at tackle. Imma put this here off Cody Ford's twitter. There are several plays where I think fans watching may say it was a failure and he lost contain, yet Ford selected them as highlights. Why? My take-home, what fans see as success, and what Bobby Johnson grades well as fulfilling the actual assignment, may differ. I believe this is especially true on the R side of the line. Daboll has designed pass plays with secondary routes that exploit Josh's natural tendency to want to roll R. Ford's assignment there may be to escort the defender into the backfield and seal him off, giving Josh a lane to move R. 2
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