CountDorkula Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: Once they started closing things it made me realize how bad this really is. It will get better quicker if people would just stay home. The longer states continue to operate as Business as usual, the more harm this will do. Be like California, Shut down for two weeks to recover. In NY they shut down restaurants, who will be closed for months. if they would have just went full blown, things would have been easier to mange and places would be shut down for less time, 1
Sundancer Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: Once they started closing things it made me realize how bad this really is. It will get better quicker if people would just stay home. Guilty here too. I never dismissed it like some but I definitely was in the “It’s overblown, we can’t shut down for 2 weeks-think of the economy” club that so many are still in. I’m less inclined to judge them because they must live in areas not yet seeing it and what their healthcare workers are seeing. Observing what is happening to the healthcare in Italy and is just arriving here, the shut down has to happen or instead of rebuilding the economy merely from fallen walls, we will be building it from ash. 2-3 weeks and in that time, we must have massive testing, tracking ready to go with a pipeline of medical supplies organized and shipping for the next wave. 2
DrDawkinstein Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: The longer states continue to operate as Business as usual, the more harm this will do. Be like California, Shut down for two weeks to recover. In NY they shut down restaurants, who will be closed for months. if they would have just went full blown, things would have been easier to mange and places would be shut down for less time, Atlanta announced a mandatory closing of all restaurants, bars, clubs, bowling alleys, arcades, etc starting today (most are already closed). But that's just in the city.
Cripple Creek Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 @Hapless Bills Fan unsure about what should go where so putting this here. Seems to be mostly rehash. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/19/coronavirus-projections-us WAPO drops paywall for COVID-19 information: The Washington Post is providing this story for free so that all readers have access to this important information about the coronavirus. For more free stories, sign up for our daily Coronavirus Updates newsletter. 1
BillsFan4 Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, John in Jax said: Went for a 45 min. walk on Jax beach yesterday afternoon. The beach was moderately crowded.....because there’s really nothing else to do.....and we were still EASILY able to stay 10 feet away from any other person. Saw plenty of families/groups of under 10 who were close to each other, and that’s totally their choice. It’s still a free country, last time I checked. LOL Yes, it’s certainly their choice. What sucks are the doctors and nurses that won’t have any other choice but to step in harms way to take care of them if they get sick. And the overwhelming effect it could have on florida’s healthcare systems if a bunch get sick all at once because of all the big gatherings that have happened in the state in recent days. 1 1
K-9 Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: ???? amazing! Heroes, all. 1 1
BillsFan4 Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, K-9 said: Heroes, all. Absolutely! Especially considering that many of them were retired doctors, which I’m guessing means they are probably in the 60+ higher risk category.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 20, 2020 Author Posted March 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: ???? amazing! Oh, sweet Jesus Lord bless and protect them. Amid reports that NYC hospitals are giving out directions on how to make your own (known to be ineffective) masks. We are supposed to have a strategic stockpile of masks and PPE. We need our National Leaders to release it to NYC, NOW. 1
BillsFan4 Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Oh, sweet Jesus Lord bless and protect them. Amid reports that NYC hospitals are giving out directions on how to make your own (known to be ineffective) masks. We are supposed to have a strategic stockpile of masks and PPE. We need our National Leaders to release it to NYC, NOW. I saw today that HHS/ASPR is releasing a stockpile (thank god!) ————————————————————————————— Saw this on another site: Quote Alert Synopsis: A malicious website pretending to be the live map for Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by Johns Hopkins University is circulating on the internet waiting for unwitting internet users to visit the website (corona-virus-map[dot]com). Visiting the website infects the user with the AZORult trojan, an information stealing program which can exfiltrate a variety of sensitive data. It is likely being spread via infected email attachments, malicious online advertisements, and social engineering. [Mod Edit: the above is exactly why I started this thread and now am trying to abstract the info from the (equally important) discussion and humor I want people to be able to get info from vetted links, without worrying they are clicking on malware. If you click on a link and it asks you to install something. DO NOT PROCEED, close the window with alt-F4, if it won't close reboot your computer and check for (computer) viruses when you reboot.] 3
Cripple Creek Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) We could not, obviously, institute the policies that China did, but waiting is not good. https://www.southampton.ac.uk/news/2020/03/covid-19-china.page https://news.avclub.com/ruthless-school-choir-stages-direct-assault-on-human-he-1842401804 Edited March 20, 2020 by Cripple Creek 1
plenzmd1 Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 Hmm, got this text just a bit ago..one fun appointment! 1
Sundancer Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 If we want to see a market pop and get a guy who can make the right phone calls and has credibility with America, tap Bill Gates to lead the coronavirus task force. #DraftBillGates
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 20, 2020 Author Posted March 20, 2020 Coronavirus Rhapsody...to the tune of Bohemian Rhapsody 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 20, 2020 Author Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Sundancer said: If we want to see a market pop and get a guy who can make the right phone calls and has credibility with America, tap Bill Gates to lead the coronavirus task force. #DraftBillGates NO. Please just stop. People, Bill Gates is a damned smart man. But there are a lot of damned smart epidemiologists in this country. Some of them have worked on containment and control with prior diseases - Smallpox. Ebola. Zika. Dengue. THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO REINVENT THE WHEEL. Find the five most experienced epidemiologists in the country. Look at their resumes. Pick one. Put him or her in charge. Let him or her choose his or her team. The problem is the information gap. Someone like Bill Gates needs to learn, process, and assimilate information as well as the tactical situation before choosing the best path and right decisions, with input from competing sources. Someone who is actually a trained epidemiologist and has previously successfully dealt with contagious disease containment already knows this stuff and just needs to assimilate the tactical situation and the state of development of various potential mitigations. PUT A MEDICAL SCIENTIST IN CHARGE, preferably an experienced epidemiologist. This is a medical emergency. Let competent medical people handle it and give them whatever governmental support or resources they need. The markets will recover when they see a clear end to the shutdowns and disruptions. 1
Hardhatharry Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 Anyone a little suspicious about Iran only reporting 1200-1300 a day...
K-9 Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 4 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: Absolutely! Especially considering that many of them were retired doctors, which I’m guessing means they are probably in the 60+ higher risk category. Rare courage. 1
K-9 Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 27 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: NO. Please just stop. People, Bill Gates is a damned smart man. But there are a lot of damned smart epidemiologists in this country. Some of them have worked on containment and control with prior diseases - Smallpox. Ebola. Zika. Dengue. THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO REINVENT THE WHEEL. Find the five most experienced epidemiologists in the country. Look at their resumes. Pick one. Put him or her in charge. Let him or her choose his or her team. The problem is the information gap. Someone like Bill Gates needs to learn, process, and assimilate information as well as the tactical situation before choosing the best path and right decisions, with input from competing sources. Someone who is actually a trained epidemiologist and has previously successfully dealt with contagious disease containment already knows this stuff and just needs to assimilate the tactical situation and the state of development of various potential mitigations. PUT A MEDICAL SCIENTIST IN CHARGE, preferably an experienced epidemiologist. This is a medical emergency. Let competent medical people handle it and give them whatever governmental support or resources they need. The markets will recover when they see a clear end to the shutdowns and disruptions. Agree entirely. Bill Gates and his resources can be used to assist in our efforts for sure, but he has no business being at the helm of this managing this crisis. Neither do a lot of other people.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 20, 2020 Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Greg S said: Our electrical contracting company has been designated an ESSENTIAL SERVICE under Governor Cuomo’s Executive Order (confirmed and verified with our corporate attorneys). We have 200+ electricians deployed in the field throughout NY, PA and NJ. Services are provided to all major hospitals in Rochester, including all University of Rochester medically related facilities. With schools closed, our school work continues unabated as directed by individual districts. We provide service, maintenance and construction services to 50+ Wegmans stores throughout the region as well as their production facilities here in Rochester. Production has been ramped up to keep up with unprecedented demand. Thus we are in emergency preparedness mode 24/7. Our corporate office remains open to provide the necessary support services to our workers. We have an extensive IT network that provides remote access to our employees. We have given them the option to work from home remotely. At the same time, I’m working through all legislative mandates as to paid sick leave requirements. The New York State mandate is effective immediately with no relief for the employer. The Federal mandate goes into effect April 3, 2020 and does provide dollar for dollar tax relief for the employer. Fortunately, we have only one administrative employee in 14 day quarantine per her doctor’s advice, but who has thankfully tested negative for COVID-19. These are unparalleled and unprecedented times we have never seen before. Best wishes to all to stay safe and healthy. Edited March 20, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1
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