teef Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, Halloween Land said: It's hard not to worry or panic about this virus. But we must keep our faith strong and trust the Lord. Praying is important! i really think this is the last idea anyone should be putting into people's head's at this point. 1 1
Halloween Land Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, teef said: i really think this is the last idea anyone should be putting into people's head's at this point. It's not. It's the best idea. Don't underestimate the power of prayer. Only God can save us. 1
teef Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, Halloween Land said: It's not. It's the best idea. Don't underestimate the power of prayer. Only God can save us. i appreciate spirituality, but only common sense and the understanding of what this thing is going to fix this. 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 My daughters office in DC that works with the ATF just emptied the office and told them ALL to work from home for the foreseeable future
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2020 Author Posted March 16, 2020 34 minutes ago, row_33 said: trying to be realistic here... i expect we've all been exposed, you can't run and hide from it, it is hitting people with $$$$ so that won't save you if you feel sick stay home, try to get out there though... Actually, row_33, math suggests we have NOT all been exposed at this point. Epidemiologist best guess (not just making up numbers, they have some data from Wuhan before testing became widespread and from Washington State backed up by genome sequencing - see upthread for references) is that we're currently running about 10x more cases than are currently diagnosed. There are currently 3,774 diagnosed cases in US so that would argue 37,740 actual cases as of this am. Let's multiply by 2 as an error factor - 74,000 cases. Most of those are clustered in Washington State, SF, LA, and the NE corridor - Boston, NYC, Philly. Let's suppose that all infected were clustered in the greater Boston area with 8.2 million people (which they are not), that would still be less than 1% of the population infected at this point. Greater NYC area even lower. So your personal chance of exposure at this point is actually quite low, and the chance at this point that social isolation will slow the disease spread are high - if people take it seriously, NOW. Also emerging evidence suggests people are infectious 1-2 days before symptoms appear, so don't rationalize "Imma good to get out there 'cuz I feel fine" 2
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2020 Author Posted March 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, aristocrat said: oh yea she's doing the full safety stuff. yea, i facetimed this morning and had her strip down so i can check for the virus to see if i could see it on her! lol. they do have a patient with the virus at her hospital. which is in the middle of nowhere. I feel you should repeat this vital safety inspection the moment she walks through the door 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2020 Author Posted March 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Halloween Land said: It's not. It's the best idea. Don't underestimate the power of prayer. Only God can save us. I respect the Power of Prayer, but one post on the topic was enough to convey your view. In case that wasn't clear enough, my mod powers shall smite thee if thou continueth. 1 1
Hardhatharry Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 I took a weeks vacation this week and now have a week of nothing to do. So I ordered new furniture and will wait for it to be shipped... Hopefully. Was supposed to go to NJ to see my parents but that isn't happening. My buddies cruise next week is cancelled he is wondering if he should just keep working instead... If we will even be working next week. A big part of our food company is shipping part so we are waiting to see. Right now we have a spike in shipments b.c people are staying home and ordering ready made meals.
John in Jax Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, teef said: still think this is an over reaction? Yes. South Korea tested 100,000 people and 96% were negative. ETA: We know who the high risk people are, so obviously the high risk people should be taking extreme measures to avoid it. But everybody else should be able to live their lives. Completely shutting down bars and restaurants is asinine. I can see limiting their capacities though.... Edited March 16, 2020 by John in Jax
BillsFan4 Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, John in Jax said: Yes. South Korea tested 100,000 people and 96% were negative. Boy I’d sure love it if the U.S. tested that many people, you know, so we actually knew how many infected we had. South Korea began ramping up testing procedures within weeks of the outbreak in Wuhan and were testing 10,000 people a day with drive-up testing sites all over the country. They listened to the experts and immediately took action to contain the spread. Edited March 16, 2020 by BillsFan4
teef Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, John in Jax said: Yes. South Korea tested 100,000 people and 96% were negative. ETA: We know who the high risk people are, so obviously the high risk people should be taking extreme measures to avoid it. But everybody else should be able to live their lives. Completely shutting down bars and restaurants is asinine. I can see limiting their capacities though.... yup. you don't understand. got it. 2 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 My dentist office just cancelled my cleaning appointment for tomorrow
Jrb1979 Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Boy I’d sure love it if the U.S. tested that many people, so we actually knew how many infected we had. South Korea began ramping up testing procedures within weeks of the outbreak in Wuhan and were testing 10,000 people a day with drive-up testing sites all over the country. They listened to the experts and immediately took action to contain the spread. It probably would have happened sooner here in Canada and the U.S. but the issue is that people seem to panic a lot easier here. In Europe when any of their government imposes closures, people seem to accept it. Even the suggestion of self-isolate after returning from out of country, most seem to ignore and just go back to work.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2020 Author Posted March 16, 2020 1 hour ago, row_33 said: has anyone with a social life not been exposed already, starting at the latest mid-January? See other post on this topic. Short answer, at this point very likely you have not been exposed. 1
teef Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: My dentist office just cancelled my cleaning appointment for tomorrow we're not doing that yet, but my schedule is showing the effects. right now were having people stay in their cars, and call us when they arrive. we will come out and get them. if anyone is sick, or has traveled, they have to stay away. constantly washing handles, surfaces, etc. 1
row_33 Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 49 minutes ago, teef said: i appreciate spirituality, but only common sense and the understanding of what this thing is going to fix this. the most common sense practical people in my life are spiritual, put most of us to shame they aren't watching MSM for boiling of their emotions 1
teef Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, row_33 said: the most common sense practical people in my life are spiritual, put most of us to shame they aren't watching MSM for boiling of their emotions i hope no one thinks i meant being spiritual leads to not having common sense. i just hope no one exchanges the power of prayer for doing the basic things we've all be instructed to do. 1 1
row_33 Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, teef said: i hope no one thinks i meant being spiritual leads to not having common sense. i just hope no one exchanges the power of prayer for doing the basic things we've all be instructed to do. they do both, and then go out to help others they put almost all of us to shame....
teef Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, row_33 said: they do both, and then go out to help others they put almost all of us to shame.... it's not too hard to put me to shame.
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